Me7o Thread: Hoodie edition

[vallen]

i dont think morey really cares that much about getting a melo deal done. he will continue to offer crap or nothing. melos not worth much, and we know what he has to offer. hes good with a take it or leave it deal.

people still fixating on a 3rd team like all of a sudden theres some magic button thats going to make hou contracts desirable. we know the names and the figures inside out, nobodys giving us talent for ryan andrson, and moreys not losing his bench for an old ass never has been.

lets stop spinning this like NY is in control, rejecting deals. its more like melo aint worth ****....

If NY wasn't in control and rejecting deals, a deal would be done already.

were not taking crap, and nobody is going to offer any more then crap. this isnt chess, its pretty basic checkers. i guess compared to the past that can be considered a FO achievement. spin away.

[NBA Fan 1234]

i dont think morey really cares that much about getting a melo deal done. he will continue to offer crap or nothing. melos not worth much, and we know what he has to offer. hes good with a take it or leave it deal.

people still fixating on a 3rd team like all of a sudden theres some magic button thats going to make hou contracts desirable. we know the names and the figures inside out, nobodys giving us talent for ryan andrson, and moreys not losing his bench for an old ass never has been.

lets stop spinning this like NY is in control, rejecting deals. its more like melo aint worth ****....

If NY wasn't in control and rejecting deals, a deal would be done already.

were not taking crap, and nobody is going to offer any more then crap. this isnt chess, its pretty basic checkers. i guess compared to the past that can be considered a FO achievement. spin away.

Then we are in control and rejecting deals.

[vallen]

If NY wasn't in control and rejecting deals, a deal would be done already.

were not taking crap, and nobody is going to offer any more then crap. this isnt chess, its pretty basic checkers. i guess compared to the past that can be considered a FO achievement. spin away.

Then we are in control and rejecting deals.

in control of what ?

and what deals have we rejected ?

[Jalen Bluntson]

Houston isn't offering deals. Houston and Mills had talks. Perry shut them down. Houston may have had talks to Perry. That went nowhere. Then Houston said they are waiting for the Knicks to drop their asking price. Nothing new has happened.

NY has the leverage. Melo has none at all. Houston has none at all. Melo will eventually break. Or opt out. Or break next summer and expand his list. How happy will CP3 be losing without Melo this year? Houston needs to shyt or get off the pot.

Me7o....he's just dumb. Using his NTC to stay in a rebuild he wanted no part of. If Houston doesn't offer value...He's stuck here because he only wants Houston. If he gets injured...then what?

Melo is killing his own value for us and possibly killing his own career and future value. For what?

[god shammgod]

this kind of thing requires patience. there is no need for anyone...melo, the rockets, the knicks, to give in now. as time goes by, we'll see who becomes the more desperate party to make this happen. the worst that can happen for the knicks is that they win too much, which probably doesn't bother the front office the way it bothers the fans.

[Billy Goat]

Houston isn't offering deals. Houston and Mills had talks. Perry shut them down. Houston may have had talks to Perry. That went nowhere. Then Houston said they are waiting for the Knicks to drop their asking price. Nothing new has happened.

NY has the leverage. Melo has none at all. Houston has none at all. Melo will eventually break. Or opt out. Or break next summer and expand his list. How happy will CP3 be losing without Melo this year? Houston needs to shyt or get off the pot.

Me7o....he's just dumb. Using his NTC to stay in a rebuild he wanted no part of. If Houston doesn't offer value...He's stuck here because he only wants Houston. If he gets injured...then what?

Melo is killing his own value for us and possibly killing his own career and future value. For what?

Or Melo doesnt care and enjoys the fact he's due 60 million dollars to live in NY and play on a team where he can chase personal milestones and never be held accountable.

[NBA Fan 1234]

were not taking crap, and nobody is going to offer any more then crap. this isnt chess, its pretty basic checkers. i guess compared to the past that can be considered a FO achievement. spin away.

Then we are in control and rejecting deals.

in control of what ?

and what deals have we rejected ?

Throughout the summer there were numerous reports saying the Knicks are unwilling to take back Anderson. That's a rejection of a deal.

You said "lets stop spinning this like NY is in control, rejecting deals. its more like melo aint worth ****...." which is false. I'm not even spinning anything; saying the Knicks are not in control, when they are the team that needs to accept any deal proposed to them from another team, and they did not reject deal(s) involving Melo is factually incorrect.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Houston isn't offering deals. Houston and Mills had talks. Perry shut them down. Houston may have had talks to Perry. That went nowhere. Then Houston said they are waiting for the Knicks to drop their asking price. Nothing new has happened.

NY has the leverage. Melo has none at all. Houston has none at all. Melo will eventually break. Or opt out. Or break next summer and expand his list. How happy will CP3 be losing without Melo this year? Houston needs to shyt or get off the pot.

Me7o....he's just dumb. Using his NTC to stay in a rebuild he wanted no part of. If Houston doesn't offer value...He's stuck here because he only wants Houston. If he gets injured...then what?

Melo is killing his own value for us and possibly killing his own career and future value. For what?

Or Melo doesnt care and enjoys the fact he's due 60 million dollars to live in NY and play on a team where he can chase personal milestones and never be held accountable.

So he's stupid. Got it.

[vallen]

Then we are in control and rejecting deals.

in control of what ?

and what deals have we rejected ?

Throughout the summer there were numerous reports saying the Knicks are unwilling to take back Anderson. That's a rejection of a deal.

You said "lets stop spinning this like NY is in control, rejecting deals. its more like melo aint worth ****...." which is false. I'm not even spinning anything; saying the Knicks are not in control, when they are the team that needs to accept any deal proposed to them from another team, and they did not reject deal(s) involving Melo is factually incorrect.

wow they rejected one whole deal of ryan anderson. way to be "in control" and "rejecting all those deals", while moreys doing all that "heavy lifting". no that didnt sound like spinning at all.

[NBA Fan 1234]

in control of what ?

and what deals have we rejected ?

Throughout the summer there were numerous reports saying the Knicks are unwilling to take back Anderson. That's a rejection of a deal.

You said "lets stop spinning this like NY is in control, rejecting deals. its more like melo aint worth ****...." which is false. I'm not even spinning anything; saying the Knicks are not in control, when they are the team that needs to accept any deal proposed to them from another team, and they did not reject deal(s) involving Melo is factually incorrect.

wow they rejected one whole deal of ryan anderson. way to be "in control" and "rejecting all those deals", while moreys doing all that "heavy lifting". no that didnt sound like spinning at all.

I mean, I'm not the one saying we're not rejecting deals / are not in control...so...yeah, I'm not doing the spinning, bud. As long as Knicks have Melo, they control whether or not he's traded, meaning, they are in the driver's seat and are under no obligation whatsoever to trade him. They can, and have, rejected deals they don't like.

But keep up the usual schtick, vallen.

[Billy Goat]

Houston isn't offering deals. Houston and Mills had talks. Perry shut them down. Houston may have had talks to Perry. That went nowhere. Then Houston said they are waiting for the Knicks to drop their asking price. Nothing new has happened.

NY has the leverage. Melo has none at all. Houston has none at all. Melo will eventually break. Or opt out. Or break next summer and expand his list. How happy will CP3 be losing without Melo this year? Houston needs to shyt or get off the pot.

Me7o....he's just dumb. Using his NTC to stay in a rebuild he wanted no part of. If Houston doesn't offer value...He's stuck here because he only wants Houston. If he gets injured...then what?

Melo is killing his own value for us and possibly killing his own career and future value. For what?

Or Melo doesnt care and enjoys the fact he's due 60 million dollars to live in NY and play on a team where he can chase personal milestones and never be held accountable.

So he's stupid. Got it.

stupid as a fox

[louieOrr]

Houston isn't offering deals. Houston and Mills had talks. Perry shut them down. Houston may have had talks to Perry. That went nowhere. Then Houston said they are waiting for the Knicks to drop their asking price. Nothing new has happened.

NY has the leverage. Melo has none at all. Houston has none at all. Melo will eventually break. Or opt out. Or break next summer and expand his list. How happy will CP3 be losing without Melo this year? Houston needs to shyt or get off the pot.

Me7o....he's just dumb. Using his NTC to stay in a rebuild he wanted no part of. If Houston doesn't offer value...He's stuck here because he only wants Houston. If he gets injured...then what?

Melo is killing his own value for us and possibly killing his own career and future value. For what?

Or Melo doesnt care and enjoys the fact he's due 60 million dollars to live in NY and play on a team where he can chase personal milestones and never be held accountable.

So he's stupid. Got it.

By the way, good luck with the chasing personal milestones here. I don't think he is going to be enough of a focal point here to do himself any good in that area.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Or Melo doesnt care and enjoys the fact he's due 60 million dollars to live in NY and play on a team where he can chase personal milestones and never be held accountable.

So he's stupid. Got it.

stupid as a fox

Stupid like a jackass more like. If he goes into the season on this team...He's as dumb as it gets.

[Billy Goat]

So he's stupid. Got it.

stupid as a fox

Stupid like a jackass more like. If he goes into the season on this team...He's as dumb as it gets.

Dude, he's due close to 60 million over the next two years. Look who's entering free agency next year- You think Carmelo wants any part of that with a guaranteed 30 mill coming from the Knicks? Be honest. You already know what his current value is from the Rockets.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Spoiler:

stupid as a fox

Stupid like a jackass more like. If he goes into the season on this team...He's as dumb as it gets.

Dude, he's due close to 60 million over the next two years. Look who's entering free agency next year- You think Carmelo wants any part of that with a guaranteed 30 mill coming from the Knicks? Be honest. You already know what his current value is from the Rockets.

Dude...if he's traded to say...OKC/POR he can STILL get his money. He can also compete in the playoffs and will be a big part of what they're doing. Helping with his personal milestones.

So he gets his stats...his money...and a winning team. Or...limited role. Limited minutes...losing team. But hey...he gets his money. He's a jackass at that point. He's also cementing his legacy as putting money over winning. Loser mentality. Real smart guy, huh?

[Handledatruth]

Spoiler:

Stupid like a jackass more like. If he goes into the season on this team...He's as dumb as it gets.

Dude, he's due close to 60 million over the next two years. Look who's entering free agency next year- You think Carmelo wants any part of that with a guaranteed 30 mill coming from the Knicks? Be honest. You already know what his current value is from the Rockets.

Dude...if he's traded to say...OKC/POR he can STILL get his money. He can also compete in the playoffs and will be a big part of what they're doing. Helping with his personal milestones.

So he gets his stats...his money...and a winning team. Or...limited role. Limited minutes...losing team. But hey...he gets his money. He's a jackass at that point. He's also cementing his legacy as putting money over winning. Loser mentality. Real smart guy, huh?

I'd be curious how you would respond if we were above .500 with Melo on the team next year. Above .500 and playing some solid basketball as a team. I'd personally be happy that I can finally watch my league pass without turning it off in the 3rd quarter. Not sure where you would stand.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Spoiler:

Dude, he's due close to 60 million over the next two years. Look who's entering free agency next year- You think Carmelo wants any part of that with a guaranteed 30 mill coming from the Knicks? Be honest. You already know what his current value is from the Rockets.

Dude...if he's traded to say...OKC/POR he can STILL get his money. He can also compete in the playoffs and will be a big part of what they're doing. Helping with his personal milestones.

So he gets his stats...his money...and a winning team. Or...limited role. Limited minutes...losing team. But hey...he gets his money. He's a jackass at that point. He's also cementing his legacy as putting money over winning. Loser mentality. Real smart guy, huh?

I'd be curious how you would respond if we were above .500 with Melo on the team next year. Above .500 and playing some solid basketball as a team. I'd personally be happy that I can finally watch my league pass without turning it off in the 3rd quarter. Not sure where you would stand.

I would just accept it without being happy. We need a top pick next year.

I get the entertaining part, and that's why I'm wishing for us to go 0-82 with us losing every game by 1 point. That'd make the games interesting and fun while piling up the losses.

[Handledatruth]

Spoiler:

Dude...if he's traded to say...OKC/POR he can STILL get his money. He can also compete in the playoffs and will be a big part of what they're doing. Helping with his personal milestones.

So he gets his stats...his money...and a winning team. Or...limited role. Limited minutes...losing team. But hey...he gets his money. He's a jackass at that point. He's also cementing his legacy as putting money over winning. Loser mentality. Real smart guy, huh?

I'd be curious how you would respond if we were above .500 with Melo on the team next year. Above .500 and playing some solid basketball as a team. I'd personally be happy that I can finally watch my league pass without turning it off in the 3rd quarter. Not sure where you would stand.

I would just accept it without being happy. We need a top pick next year.

I get the entertaining part, and that's why I'm wishing for us to go 0-82 with us losing every game by 1 point. That'd make the games interesting and fun while piling up the losses.

I get the anger then. You guys want the Philly tank and Melo stands in the way. I'll tell you this. If the front office really wanted the Philly tank so bad, they could have just waived Melo and traded players like Courtney Lee and Kyle O'Quinn. However, they haven't done this. Must be frustrating.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I'd be curious how you would respond if we were above .500 with Melo on the team next year. Above .500 and playing some solid basketball as a team. I'd personally be happy that I can finally watch my league pass without turning it off in the 3rd quarter. Not sure where you would stand.

I would just accept it without being happy. We need a top pick next year.

I get the entertaining part, and that's why I'm wishing for us to go 0-82 with us losing every game by 1 point. That'd make the games interesting and fun while piling up the losses.

I get the anger then. You guys want the Philly tank and Melo stands in the way. I'll tell you this. If the front office really wanted the Philly tank so bad, they could have just waived Melo and traded players like Courtney Lee and Kyle O'Quinn. However, they haven't done this. Must be frustrating.

Nono, I'm not mad at Melo at all. I get why he wants to decide where he wants to play, but he has to understand that both sides hold the same amount of cards - neither Melo's team or the Knicks have the upper hand...if anything, the Knicks do because the FO has the final say.

I don't want the full Philly tank because I don't think it's a viable option, but I want something like what OKC did - 3 drafts getting studs. We have one surefire stud in KP, one potential stud in Frank, and if we were able to get Doncic we'd be set. A lineup of Frank, Doncic and a 3/D player at the wings, KP at the 4, and Willy at the 5 I think is a playoff team in 2018-2019.

That said, I'm all for trading Lee because his timeline doesn't really fit with ours and I think we can get a late first or a couple of seconds (at worst) for him. As for KOQ, I'd LOVE to have him going forward...but with Noah on the books, I don't think we'll be able to afford him. I thought we should have traded KOQ at the trade deadline last year to a contending team / playoff team for a late first, but that never happened.

I'm against buying out Melo unless he accepts a deal that is significantly less than the 60 million owed over the next two years - I mean, like I wouldn't want more than a couple million (if even that) on the books for the 2018-19 season.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Spoiler:

Dude...if he's traded to say...OKC/POR he can STILL get his money. He can also compete in the playoffs and will be a big part of what they're doing. Helping with his personal milestones.

So he gets his stats...his money...and a winning team. Or...limited role. Limited minutes...losing team. But hey...he gets his money. He's a jackass at that point. He's also cementing his legacy as putting money over winning. Loser mentality. Real smart guy, huh?

I'd be curious how you would respond if we were above .500 with Melo on the team next year. Above .500 and playing some solid basketball as a team. I'd personally be happy that I can finally watch my league pass without turning it off in the 3rd quarter. Not sure where you would stand.

I would just accept it without being happy. We need a top pick next year.

I get the entertaining part, and that's why I'm wishing for us to go 0-82 with us losing every game by 1 point. That'd make the games interesting and fun while piling up the losses.

How would I feel if he was here and we defied logic? I would be pissed. Treadmill team for an early exit and a non lottery draft pick? For what? Keep Melo happy again? Awesome.

The team is geared to rebuild. With the money given to Noah and Hardaway....if we keep Melo...who can we add to win a title next year? No one. So 2 years of treadmill team? Then we have to pay KP. Late rd picks are supposed to be our savior?

Good plan.