Did the Wolves manage to screw something up again?

[KHRICH]

Butler just joins the team and is already trying to oust one of its main players(if true)... at some point you have to consider Butler being the issue with chemistry with bulls and now wolves.

[Rastas]

Yes they did.
Wiggins saw the new Slime Green Nike uniforms and is now reconsidering signing!

[Scalabrine]

OFC they screwed things up. Their honcho Thibodumb thinks he can challenge the Warriors (what an idiot!) and that shows you again that you don't hire a coach to be your GM. Now they have a shallow rotation that will be in lux tax in a few seasons. Butlers won't last 5 seasons at elite level but will ask for super max to stay. A waterbug PG in Teague won't age well in his 30s. No more lottery picks. Towns will have to do it on his own in 5 years. In the meantime they will come up short against GSW every year. No championships in sight.

It's been 13 years since the Timberwolves made the playoffs, and they have a really nice young core with two absolute studs in Wiggins and Towns who are just 22 and 21 and they were able to add a Top 15 player with an existing relationship with Thibs for a guy that just tore his ACL and a young point guard with potential but had a pretty poor year. They may not be able to beat the Warriors in the next few years, but the city is starving for some sort of success and putting a bunch of veterans who have played in the big games, that know Thibs well, is only going to help this teams long term progression when both Towns and Wiggins are 26 and entering their primes (in 5 years!).

Towns/Aldrich
Gibson/Dieng/Bjelica
Wiggins/Muhammed
Butler/Crawford
Teague/Jones

I'm not seeing that as a shallow rotation at all. It's filled with guys that can defend multiple positions with a mix of veterans and youth. Teague will be 31 or 32 when his contract is up and he is a perfect point guard in a Thibs offense, both he and Jones will have really nice years I think.

Is this a team that will be the Warriors right now? Probably not, but they have 3 or 4 all star caliber players on that team and should be right there next to the rest of the teams in the league.



1. Dubs
2. Rockets
3. Spurs
4. Timberwolves
5. Thunder
6. Pelicans
7. Nuggets
8. Blazers

Thats a stud filled west right there but I think the Wolves are right there after the Dubs, Rockets, Spurs and it will be great for the young players and fans to get a taste of the playoffs.

[Stillwater]

Butler just joins the team and is already trying to oust one of its main players(if true)... at some point you have to consider Butler being the issue with chemistry with bulls and now wolves.

It is a reasonable possibility that The wolves are not going to utilize Wiggins or more importantly feature him much at all with KAT and now Butler taking precedence in their plans. I can definitely see Wiggins opting to go somewhere he is at minimum the 2nd option, at this point it is highly unlikely that will be the case in Minnesota. It is very difficult to get players to buy into a system that has demoted them as opposed to one they are new too and have to earn their way.
He will likely re sign if KAT and Butler reach out to him , if not he will probably tell them to stick it.

[StepBackCrack]

Just trade the one trick pony and get over with.

[LibertyPrime]

"Whispers around town"

Aaaaand the main board's bizarre fixation on Wiggins continues.

[Lazy10]

I would be looking to trade him. Who the eff is he to be pouting when they're offering him a megamax deal despite the fact that he's a one trick pony on the court

Calm down he isn't pouting. Also wouldn't trade potential top 10 player in NBA. That's FOOLISH

[Lazy10]

Just move Wiggins now. Maybe in a package to Toronto centered around Lowry.

Lowry-Butler-Towns is an amazing Big 3.

I think Raptors would want to pair him with Lowry DeRozan and Ibaka? It'd be hard trading for him.

No thanks. As Raptors fan, I'd take that trade and run

[Buckeye-NBAFan]

The reason Andrew Wiggins fired his agent is because other agencies colluded and offered to take no commission fees on his contracts; it was an attempt to save money through undercutting his (now previous) agent.

That's called competition, not collusion.

[Domejandro]

The reason Andrew Wiggins fired his agent is because other agencies colluded and offered to take no commission fees on his contracts; it was an attempt to save money through undercutting his (now previous) agent.

That's called competition, not collusion.

Not when contract negotiations are already completed by the fired agent.

[PhilBlackson]

The Wolves didn't screw up anything, BOS just outbid them.

It made complete sense to try and get Kyrie who would have been a much better fit. If Wiggins wants to be sour about about the business of basketball, that's on him. The only thing I will say though is Towns and Butler do seem to be getting really "chummy" lol where Wiggins seems like the odd man out in that sense which could be frustrating when you came into things with Towns now, it's on to the next hot thing lol...sounds like dating but really no one likes feeling left out and I don't think it's anyone's fault. Towns probably just connects with Jimmy more and seems like they're both more driven guys than what Wiggins strikes me as but all of that is neither here nor there, just my complete guess like probably what these "whispers" are.

When I came in this thread I thought the screw up was going to be based on the actual construction of the roster as they don't have any shooters (Teague isn't that great) and they have 3 iso players in Butler, Towns and Wiggins and no lanes to operate in which could cause them to "under-achieve" in relation to people's expectations.

[theGreatRC]

"Whispers around town"

Aaaaand the main board's bizarre fixation on Wiggins continues.

I was just about to post that i've never heard about this from any Minny reporter or any source, but we don't need sources when it comes to Wiggs

[vagelis]

Personally I don't believe that the reason that Wiggins fired his agent was the money that he had to be paid after that max contract extension.
I think that the reason is something else that we do not know yet (Maybe my assumption is wrong).
I wait to see what will happen with his new contract. I think that the extension has to be signed in the next weeks, so we will know soon if the reason of the max cotract rejection was only the money that had to be paid to his former agent.

[Chris76]

The Wolves didn't screw up anything, BOS just outbid them.

It made complete sense to try and get Kyrie who would have been a much better fit. If Wiggins wants to be sour about about the business of basketball, that's on him. The only thing I will say though is Towns and Butler do seem to be getting really "chummy" lol where Wiggins seems like the odd man out in that sense which could be frustrating when you came into things with Towns now, it's on to the next hot thing lol...sounds like dating but really no one likes feeling left out and I don't think it's anyone's fault. Towns probably just connects with Jimmy more and seems like they're both more driven guys than what Wiggins strikes me as but all of that is neither here nor there, just my complete guess like probably what these "whispers" are.

When I came in this thread I thought the screw up was going to be based on the actual construction of the roster as they don't have any shooters (Teague isn't that great) and they have 3 iso players in Butler, Towns and Wiggins and no lanes to operate in which could cause them to "under-achieve" in relation to people's expectations.

I agree that Kyrie would of been a good fit in Minny. Boston and Minny were good options for him.

Butler and Teague should help the ball movement, their playmaking skills are very good.
Towns and Wiggins should benefit from their leadership.

[Stillwater]

"Whispers around town"

Aaaaand the main board's bizarre fixation on Wiggins continues.

Yeah just when he was poised to a have a breakout season the org shoves an all star into his spot in the pecking order.Sure they have offered him a huge pay day and want to keep him, but you have to wonder how he feels about the demotion , when he has not lived up to the hype defensively and would be forced to be more of a role player and less of a offensive weapon.

I would not expect him to be too happy with the Butler acquisition ,if it lessons his usage at this point in his career , unless he is all about winning and not all about himself given the $ on the table,where he still gets paid, however there is also the issue with KAT and Jimi recruiting Irving and dismissing Wiggins . That alone may cause discord if he signs the deal, and might not be something he wants to deal with,as he seems to be about the most laid back personality on the roster.

Shumpert plays good defense in a similar role to what they are about to overpay Wiggins for, lets make a deal, the Cav's would love to have Wiggins offensive impact this season, and if Lebron leaves Wiggins instantly becomes a high usage player in Cleveland. Even if Lebron stays Wiggins still gets more usage offensively than he will next to Butler

[dautjazz]

Timberwolves have 2 stars in Butler and Towns in the top 25 plus borderline all stars in Teague and Wiggins.

Getting the right pieces to surround the 2 stars is key.

Towns (and Butler) in the top 25 and Green is top 10...

Honestly I don't think Green is that much better if any than Towns and Butler.

[ChilledAlex]

Wolves are doing themselves a favor if they get rid of Wiggins and not lock up 1/3 of capspace on someone like him

[Klomp]

It's a non-issue right now.

[LibertyPrime]

Yeah just when he was poised to a have a breakout season the org shoves an all star into his spot in the pecking order.Sure they have offered him a huge pay day and want to keep him, but you have to wonder how he feels about the demotion , when he has not lived up to the hype defensively and would be forced to be more of a role player and less of a offensive weapon.

Happy, probably. Wiggins isn't an ego-driven kid who needs the spotlight like some. If anything, we've had to push him to be an offensive star. Folks sure are reading a lot into a Toronto vacation and "whispers".

I would not expect him to be too happy with the Butler acquisition ,if it lessons his usage at this point in his career , unless he is all about winning and not all about himself given the $ on the table,where he still gets paid, however there is also the issue with KAT and Jimi recruiting Irving and dismissing Wiggins . That alone may cause discord if he signs the deal, and might not be something he wants to deal with,as he seems to be about the most laid back personality on the roster.

I'd be happy if they lessened his usage; he was playing way too many minutes last year as it was. But his primary competition for minutes at SG - Zach - is gone now. He and Jimmy will spend a lot of time on the floor together, hopefully with Wiggs at SG where he was utterly dominant as a starter last year.

Shumpert plays good defense in a similar role to what they are about to overpay Wiggins for, lets make a deal, the Cav's would love to have Wiggins offensive impact this season, and if Lebron leaves Wiggins instantly becomes a high usage player in Cleveland. Even if Lebron stays Wiggins still gets more usage offensively than he will next to Butler

I wouldn't offer more than a second-rounder or two for Shumpert. He's not good, and he's overpaid to boot.

[Klomp]

Nope.

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