Political Roundtable Part XV

[dckingsfan]

I think the US needs change. Somehow, someway this guy is actually going to bring about some change. Let's hop its for the better.

And there you have it... have we seen any change for the good yet? I would posit that the answer is no.

From the spending side - he has yet to get anything going - I would say his plan to increase military spending is reckless at best. And he isn't willing to take on the hard issues - his plan to take on entitlement spending wasn't a plan at all.

From the tax revenue/growth side he doesn't have much going on. He started with immigration and shut it down, one of the larger growth drivers for the country. And there seems to be little support for his poorly crafted tax overhaul.

From a social perspective - he has fomented social unrest, I don't think that has been helpful. It has been change but not for the better in my opinion.

From a foreign policy side - he quickly bailed on his America first strategy, we haven't seem him accelerate the troop withdrawal or foreign base closure that he promised.

So, change - yes. Positive change - not so much. But we will see - he is less than a year into his term.

[stilldropin20]

Agreed. As I've mentioned before, I've been following New York media since the 1970s, and thus am quite familiar with Trump's persona as a very high profile and very public celeb. There are 40+ years worth of former employees, former associates, former partners, former wives, court cases, intern=views, press clippings, etc. revealing then behind-the-scenes. There isn't really anything left to find out. There doesn't appear to be any real difference between the public Trump and the private Trump, between the thoughts in his head and the words coming out of his mouth. Hope I'm wrong, but I don't see why anyone would have any realistic/specific expectations of him.

I think his loose cannon dirty old man in the room approach makes him easy to talk to. And his make a deal with anyone because he's so desperate to look productive demeanor is actually going to result in him making more deals.

I think the US needs change. Somehow, someway this guy is actually going to bring about some change. Let's hop its for the better.

And you have to admire any politician that runs on a specific platform and then tries everything under the sun implement those campaign policies. agree or disagree with the policy, he is doing everything he can to implement the platform he ran on. I happen to strongly disagree with at least some of it. But I admire a politician that sticks to his word. Future politicians can learn something from him in that regard.

I just find it odd that you voted for Obama (three times), voted for Sanders and yet seem to be an enthusiastic supporter of Trump.

Basically, you're supporting the man who questioned the citizenship of the person you voted for (three times), implied he only got into Harvard because of his race, accused him of illegal wiretapping, is trying to demolish his greatest accomplish (the ACA) etc etc.

In essence Trump is in direct opposition to everything Obama/Sanders stand for.

I understand being an independent to an extent but you have to have some certain core principals.

It's like being a Redskins and Cowboys fan.

i guess its kinda like sports. I came to the wizards board 17 year ago as an overgrown 28-29 year old MJ fanboy. lol. but really i did. Not because I was actually an MJ fanboy though. I am however a fan of the "old man in sports trope." Thats because i like stories more than i like sports. when sports becomes "a story" I find it more interesting. But in reality, i just dont give a rats ass about any specific player. Not anymore. the name on the back of the jersey means little to me. In fact the team name on the front of the jersey means less and less the older I get. Right now the GSW are my favorite team to watch because i like the brand of basketball they play. and they came with a fresh approach and believed in their convictions. their style. I love watching them kick lebron's tail too. In this case i like watching the polished kids kick the dog shxt out of the brazen kids. Sometimes the brazen kids are the better story.

But sports mean less and less and less to me the older i get. I'm almost embarrassed by how much i liked sports as a child. Basketball is the only sport left that i watch. I dont even watch the superbowl. The only reason i even watch basketball anymore is to prove to myself which type of team is theoretically better to build and which type of player is better suited to fill a certain role on any given theoretical team to help produce wins. and then talk about it here on realgm.

[Zonkerbl]

This country needs change! BURN IT TO THE GROUND

[stilldropin20]

This country needs change! BURN IT TO THE GROUND

well we can do more of the same, or we can shake it up a little. no need for "scorched earth" as fun as it is to talk in those terms and in fact say those 2 words together. But shaking up the long established political DC ruling class is a good thing for the american people.

Like shaking up congress. If anything, Trump is learning that DC lifers like Mccain and Mcconnell are not doing the american people any justice. Those puppets have developed too many strings that are pulled by too many masters. Term limits for members of congress is finally being discussed in earnest over the last few years. And the unfiltered old man Trump gets to throw out words like term limits and it seems to stick more when he says it.

No good comes about when legislators are in office too long. 2 or 3 terms for senators and maybe 4-5 terms for congress. if that's scorched earth, count me in.

[Zonkerbl]

LET'S DESTROY THE FREE PRESS AND ENCOURAGE THE TELLING OF BLATANT LIES BY THE PRESIDENT

LET'S HAVE A SOCIETY WHERE DECISIONS ARE MADE BY WHO IS MOST ANGRY RATHER THAN WHO IS FACTUALLY CORRECT

LET'S HAVE BILLIONAIRES IN CONTROL OF EVERYTHING

WOOHOO CHANGE IS AWESOME!

[gtn130]

This country needs change! BURN IT TO THE GROUND

well we can do more of the same, or we can shake it up a little. no need for "scorched earth" as fun as it is to talk in those terms and in fact say those 2 words together. But shaking up the long established political DC ruling class is a good thing for the american people.

Like shaking up congress. If anything, Trump is learning that DC lifers like Mccain and Mcconnell are not doing the american people any justice. Those puppets have developed too many strings that are pulled by too many masters. Term limits for members of congress is finally being discussed in earnest over the last few years. And the unfiltered old man Trump gets to throw out words like term limits and it seems to stick more when he says it.

No good comes about when legislators are in office too long. 2 or 3 terms for senators and maybe 4-5 terms for congress. if that's scorched earth, count me in.

Have you had any second thoughts yet on your 'vote for Trump to minimize pay-to-play politics' gambit, or are you still unmoved?

[stilldropin20]

This country needs change! BURN IT TO THE GROUND

well we can do more of the same, or we can shake it up a little. no need for "scorched earth" as fun as it is to talk in those terms and in fact say those 2 words together. But shaking up the long established political DC ruling class is a good thing for the american people.

Like shaking up congress. If anything, Trump is learning that DC lifers like Mccain and Mcconnell are not doing the american people any justice. Those puppets have developed too many strings that are pulled by too many masters. Term limits for members of congress is finally being discussed in earnest over the last few years. And the unfiltered old man Trump gets to throw out words like term limits and it seems to stick more when he says it.

No good comes about when legislators are in office too long. 2 or 3 terms for senators and maybe 4-5 terms for congress. if that's scorched earth, count me in.

Have you had any second thoughts yet on your 'vote for Trump to minimize pay-to-play politics' gambit, or are you still unmoved?

my take on the trumps is that they are in politics for the long game. so i dont think they will be bought off on some small ball BS. If anything of all their brands appear to have taken a major hit since entering politics. so im not really moved yet that trump is or will become a bought and paid for puppet.

[gtn130]

well we can do more of the same, or we can shake it up a little. no need for "scorched earth" as fun as it is to talk in those terms and in fact say those 2 words together. But shaking up the long established political DC ruling class is a good thing for the american people.

Like shaking up congress. If anything, Trump is learning that DC lifers like Mccain and Mcconnell are not doing the american people any justice. Those puppets have developed too many strings that are pulled by too many masters. Term limits for members of congress is finally being discussed in earnest over the last few years. And the unfiltered old man Trump gets to throw out words like term limits and it seems to stick more when he says it.

No good comes about when legislators are in office too long. 2 or 3 terms for senators and maybe 4-5 terms for congress. if that's scorched earth, count me in.

Have you had any second thoughts yet on your 'vote for Trump to minimize pay-to-play politics' gambit, or are you still unmoved?

my take on the trumps is that they are in politics for the long game. so i dont think they will be bought off on some small ball BS. If anything of all their brands appear to have taken a major hit since entering politics. so im not really moved yet that trump is or will become a bought and paid for puppet.

What on earth are you talking about?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/09/documents_show_national_security_council_spent_taxpayer_money_at_trump_s.html

Since Donald Trump took office in January, his presidency has been dogged by concerns about how he may be profiting off the executive office. Now, thanks to receipts obtained by the transparency group Property of the People via the Freedom of Information Act, there’s evidence that the White House’s National Security Council paid more than $1,000 for a two-night stay at the Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, on March 3 and 4 of this year. Trump owns the resort, and the profits are stored in a trust managed by Donald Trump Jr. and Trump Organization chief financial officer Allen H. Weisselberg that the president can pull funds from at any time. As a consequence, these receipts may be evidence of a violation of the Domestic Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits the president from receiving any compensation from federal, state, or local governments beyond the salary he earns as chief executive.

That's just from an article from a few days ago! This stuff has been consistently in the news since he took office in January, bro. Just Google it!

[Pointgod]

This country needs change! BURN IT TO THE GROUND

well we can do more of the same, or we can shake it up a little. no need for "scorched earth" as fun as it is to talk in those terms and in fact say those 2 words together. But shaking up the long established political DC ruling class is a good thing for the american people.

Like shaking up congress. If anything, Trump is learning that DC lifers like Mccain and Mcconnell are not doing the american people any justice. Those puppets have developed too many strings that are pulled by too many masters. Term limits for members of congress is finally being discussed in earnest over the last few years. And the unfiltered old man Trump gets to throw out words like term limits and it seems to stick more when he says it.

No good comes about when legislators are in office too long. 2 or 3 terms for senators and maybe 4-5 terms for congress. if that's scorched earth, count me in.

You know that all this could have been achieved without electing the walking dumpster fire that is Donald Trump. Everything you are talking about could be achieved with a Democratic congress/Senate with President Hillary Clinton because contrary to popular belief the President isn't some doesn't have unlimited power. Now we know that none of this will be achieved with Trump because frankly neither him or Republicans actually give a ****. It's all just theatrics.

[Pointgod]

well we can do more of the same, or we can shake it up a little. no need for "scorched earth" as fun as it is to talk in those terms and in fact say those 2 words together. But shaking up the long established political DC ruling class is a good thing for the american people.

Like shaking up congress. If anything, Trump is learning that DC lifers like Mccain and Mcconnell are not doing the american people any justice. Those puppets have developed too many strings that are pulled by too many masters. Term limits for members of congress is finally being discussed in earnest over the last few years. And the unfiltered old man Trump gets to throw out words like term limits and it seems to stick more when he says it.

No good comes about when legislators are in office too long. 2 or 3 terms for senators and maybe 4-5 terms for congress. if that's scorched earth, count me in.

Have you had any second thoughts yet on your 'vote for Trump to minimize pay-to-play politics' gambit, or are you still unmoved?

my take on the trumps is that they are in politics for the long game. so i dont think they will be bought off on some small ball BS. If anything of all their brands appear to have taken a major hit since entering politics. so im not really moved yet that trump is or will become a bought and paid for puppet.

Trump quickly changed his tune on Saudi Arabia when they showered him with gifts and a billion dollar arms deal. Not to mention we know that daddy Putin completely owns him considering Trumps tough talk is non existent when Russia comes up.

[Wizardspride]

I think his loose cannon dirty old man in the room approach makes him easy to talk to. And his make a deal with anyone because he's so desperate to look productive demeanor is actually going to result in him making more deals.

I think the US needs change. Somehow, someway this guy is actually going to bring about some change. Let's hop its for the better.

And you have to admire any politician that runs on a specific platform and then tries everything under the sun implement those campaign policies. agree or disagree with the policy, he is doing everything he can to implement the platform he ran on. I happen to strongly disagree with at least some of it. But I admire a politician that sticks to his word. Future politicians can learn something from him in that regard.

I just find it odd that you voted for Obama (three times), voted for Sanders and yet seem to be an enthusiastic supporter of Trump.

Basically, you're supporting the man who questioned the citizenship of the person you voted for (three times), implied he only got into Harvard because of his race, accused him of illegal wiretapping, is trying to demolish his greatest accomplish (the ACA) etc etc.

In essence Trump is in direct opposition to everything Obama/Sanders stand for.

I understand being an independent to an extent but you have to have some certain core principals.

It's like being a Redskins and Cowboys fan.

i guess its kinda like sports. I came to the wizards board 17 year ago as an overgrown 28-29 year old MJ fanboy. lol. but really i did. Not because I was actually an MJ fanboy though. I am however a fan of the "old man in sports trope." Thats because i like stories more than i like sports. when sports becomes "a story" I find it more interesting. But in reality, i just dont give a rats ass about any specific player. Not anymore. the name on the back of the jersey means little to me. In fact the team name on the front of the jersey means less and less the older I get. Right now the GSW are my favorite team to watch because i like the brand of basketball they play. and they came with a fresh approach and believed in their convictions. their style. I love watching them kick lebron's tail too. In this case i like watching the polished kids kick the dog shxt out of the brazen kids. Sometimes the brazen kids are the better story.

But sports mean less and less and less to me the older i get. I'm almost embarrassed by how much i liked sports as a child. Basketball is the only sport left that i watch. I dont even watch the superbowl. The only reason i even watch basketball anymore is to prove to myself which type of team is theoretically better to build and which type of player is better suited to fill a certain role on any given theoretical team to help produce wins. and then talk about it here on realgm.

That's interesting but you didn't really respond to what I wrote.

How can you support a person (Trump) who is diametrically opposed to everything Obama/Sanders stand for?

I mean you did say you voted for Obama (three times) and Sanders...and yet you seem to be an enthusiastic supporter of Trump.

I can only assume you now disagree with the politics of Obama/Sanders.

There's no other explanation.

[stilldropin20]

Have you had any second thoughts yet on your 'vote for Trump to minimize pay-to-play politics' gambit, or are you still unmoved?

my take on the trumps is that they are in politics for the long game. so i dont think they will be bought off on some small ball BS. If anything of all their brands appear to have taken a major hit since entering politics. so im not really moved yet that trump is or will become a bought and paid for puppet.

What on earth are you talking about?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/09/documents_show_national_security_council_spent_taxpayer_money_at_trump_s.html

Since Donald Trump took office in January, his presidency has been dogged by concerns about how he may be profiting off the executive office. Now, thanks to receipts obtained by the transparency group Property of the People via the Freedom of Information Act, there’s evidence that the White House’s National Security Council paid more than $1,000 for a two-night stay at the Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, on March 3 and 4 of this year. Trump owns the resort, and the profits are stored in a trust managed by Donald Trump Jr. and Trump Organization chief financial officer Allen H. Weisselberg that the president can pull funds from at any time. As a consequence, these receipts may be evidence of a violation of the Domestic Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits the president from receiving any compensation from federal, state, or local governments beyond the salary he earns as chief executive.

That's just from an article from a few days ago! This stuff has been consistently in the news since he took office in January, bro. Just Google it!

see this is just silly talk. complete utter silly non sense. This is the smallest of small ball. It doesn't even look like Trump is barely turning a profit on that $1000 for 2 nights even if its just a single room. And that isn't some rediculous fee for the room especially with last minute booking. Was it a suite? how many people are on this council? I cant even tell if they had more than one room or if they had a suite?? I worked in the hotel industry in the early-mid 90's. chicago. high end hotel. but just a hilton. Not a trump. but even we charged $244 per night for a single. suites started in the $700's. This was 20 years ago.

In fact that almost sounds like a discounted rate. and it just speaks to absolute sillyness to even bring this kind of stuff up...If trump is going for "pay-to play" his payoff will be huge. hundreds of millions. You honestly think trump upped the cost of his suite a few hundred bucks to pocket a few benjamins???

[Zonkerbl]

my take on the trumps is that they are in politics for the long game. so i dont think they will be bought off on some small ball BS. If anything of all their brands appear to have taken a major hit since entering politics. so im not really moved yet that trump is or will become a bought and paid for puppet.

What on earth are you talking about?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/09/documents_show_national_security_council_spent_taxpayer_money_at_trump_s.html

Since Donald Trump took office in January, his presidency has been dogged by concerns about how he may be profiting off the executive office. Now, thanks to receipts obtained by the transparency group Property of the People via the Freedom of Information Act, there’s evidence that the White House’s National Security Council paid more than $1,000 for a two-night stay at the Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, on March 3 and 4 of this year. Trump owns the resort, and the profits are stored in a trust managed by Donald Trump Jr. and Trump Organization chief financial officer Allen H. Weisselberg that the president can pull funds from at any time. As a consequence, these receipts may be evidence of a violation of the Domestic Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits the president from receiving any compensation from federal, state, or local governments beyond the salary he earns as chief executive.

That's just from an article from a few days ago! This stuff has been consistently in the news since he took office in January, bro. Just Google it!

see this is just silly talk. complete utter silly non sense. This is the smallest of small ball. It doesn't even look like Trump is barely turning a profit on that $1000 for 2 nights even if its just a single room. And that isn't some rediculous fee for the room especially with last minute booking. Was it a suite? how many people are on this council? I cant even tell if they had more than one room or if they had a suite?? I worked in the hotel industry in the early-mid 90's. chicago. high end hotel. but just a hilton. Not a trump. but even we charged $244 per night for a single. suites started in the $700's. This was 20 years ago.

In fact that almost sounds like a discounted rate. and it just speaks to absolute sillyness to even bring this kind of stuff up...If trump is going for "pay-to play" his payoff will be huge. hundreds of millions. You honestly think trump upped the cost of his suite a few hundred bucks to pocket a few benjamins???

There's no de minimus exceptions to the emoluments clause. Otherwise you get liars and scoundrels saying things like "meh that's small potatoes." Every time Trump gets a monetary benefit as a result of his being President he is breaking the law. He's a criminal.

[Wizardspride]

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[stilldropin20]

Have you had any second thoughts yet on your 'vote for Trump to minimize pay-to-play politics' gambit, or are you still unmoved?

my take on the trumps is that they are in politics for the long game. so i dont think they will be bought off on some small ball BS. If anything of all their brands appear to have taken a major hit since entering politics. so im not really moved yet that trump is or will become a bought and paid for puppet.

Trump quickly changed his tune on Saudi Arabia when they showered him with gifts and a billion dollar arms deal. Not to mention we know that daddy Putin completely owns him considering Trumps tough talk is non existent when Russia comes up.

its a good thing if foreign countries buy american weapons.
1. american companies profit which should trickle down to the american worker and the US Government collects a tax on the transaction.
2. Its good that our "allies" are armed and can defend themselves so as to minimize US involvement in foreign conflict when possible but still further the american agenda as much as possible (via allies) by supplying the desired advanced weaponry should give the US some if not a lot of leverage in the region.
3. By supplying the weaponry to allies we remain at a tactical advantage when/if those allies become foes.


Putin:

Trump likes or thinks he can play ball with Putin because Putin is a nationalist. Like trump. The (english)royal family (via BP) and European banking tyrants have controlled most of the middle east's oil since the end of WW1. Just like western Europeans carved up africa to exploit the land and labor. these same banking tyrants have been implementing a central banking system the world over since ww1. Putin wants to control the oil in his region(the middle east). he has the most people in the area and therefore the biggest army and would take it if he could fund himself for the WW3. he cant fund himself however, cuz european bankers control(ed) the central banks. thats why he nationalized the central banks in russia last summer. (look it up). He still needs a stable economy and therefore a money supply to stay in office.

Speaking of the middle east and its oil reserves. If the area is destabilized (due to previous US and U.N. foreighn policy btw) and it takes russian or american forces to re-stabilize why should russia and america not benefit? Why are we protecting BP's oil reserves???? Or any other billionaire's oil reserves? and not be "paid" for the lives and tax dollars it cost to stabilize the area? Thats why trump said why not keep the oil? Putin clearly wants to keep as much of the oil reserves as well. So its common interest that Putin and trump share. British (BP) and European bankers formed most of the companies that own middle eastern oil reserves. Some of the control and profits have been given up to "royal" middle eastern families so as to ease the raping of the middle east's oil for European profits. Obviously "american" (aka international) bankers and american oil companies have also acquired interests in the middle east as well since then. But this all started out in WW1. And the brits dominated the middle east with firm graps and frankly have NOT eased that grip. Putin knows that. Trumps knows that. thats why he hired a career "Oil man" and former head of exxon to be secretary of state. The end game is control as much of the middle eastern oil as possible. If the brits cant do it anymore russia will. there is no reason for the US to continue give up control to either country. The middle east doesn't seem to have the ability to control the region on their own. at least responsibly.

And thats why Trump wanted to reset with Russia and thats why the rest of the world is vehemently against it. because the same international banking cartel that owns the oil fields also own part or most of the world wide media outlets via there investment banking outreach. To control the narrative. trump naively took all this (and much more) on when he simply and naively said, "why not keep the oil?"

When obama took office we were 10 trillion in debt. when he left we were 20 trillion in debt. those are real tax dollars that americans are going to pay. So we are paying for it. Both in dollars and lives. We bombed the crap out of the bank(middle east) with those tax dollars. So why not loot the safe(take the oil)? Why continue to let foreign bankers and BP (as well as some american oil companies) continue to loot the safe? Makes no sense. Obviously a larger mechanism is at play that doesn't appear to benefit the american people. Trump gets that. or the russian people for that matter. Putin gets that.

And frankly better energy exists. why are we even still stuck on oil? We are clearly still stuck on oil cuz banking tyrants still want us to consume their oil.

see these are big ball issue. These are real issues. In fact the only issues. whether or not someone stayed at mara-lago for a weekend for a miserable $1000 aint jack shxt. I dont care if they spent $10,000. trump is already a billionaire many times over. It would take hundred of millions to buy his influence. and its just a ruse to keep americans squabbling over complete and utter bullshxt. let's wake dafuk up!! and look at what is really happening in the world.

[stilldropin20]

What on earth are you talking about?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/09/documents_show_national_security_council_spent_taxpayer_money_at_trump_s.html



That's just from an article from a few days ago! This stuff has been consistently in the news since he took office in January, bro. Just Google it!

see this is just silly talk. complete utter silly non sense. This is the smallest of small ball. It doesn't even look like Trump is barely turning a profit on that $1000 for 2 nights even if its just a single room. And that isn't some rediculous fee for the room especially with last minute booking. Was it a suite? how many people are on this council? I cant even tell if they had more than one room or if they had a suite?? I worked in the hotel industry in the early-mid 90's. chicago. high end hotel. but just a hilton. Not a trump. but even we charged $244 per night for a single. suites started in the $700's. This was 20 years ago.

In fact that almost sounds like a discounted rate. and it just speaks to absolute sillyness to even bring this kind of stuff up...If trump is going for "pay-to play" his payoff will be huge. hundreds of millions. You honestly think trump upped the cost of his suite a few hundred bucks to pocket a few benjamins???

There's no de minimus exceptions to the emoluments clause. Otherwise you get liars and scoundrels saying things like "meh that's small potatoes." Every time Trump gets a monetary benefit as a result of his being President he is breaking the law. He's a criminal.

this small ball you are playing is so damn small. its complete and utter non sense. its not worth responding to. petty theft!!?? you want to take trump to small claims court!!?? come on, man.

[Wizardspride]

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[stilldropin20]

I just find it odd that you voted for Obama (three times), voted for Sanders and yet seem to be an enthusiastic supporter of Trump.

Basically, you're supporting the man who questioned the citizenship of the person you voted for (three times), implied he only got into Harvard because of his race, accused him of illegal wiretapping, is trying to demolish his greatest accomplish (the ACA) etc etc.

In essence Trump is in direct opposition to everything Obama/Sanders stand for.

I understand being an independent to an extent but you have to have some certain core principals.

It's like being a Redskins and Cowboys fan.

i guess its kinda like sports. I came to the wizards board 17 year ago as an overgrown 28-29 year old MJ fanboy. lol. but really i did. Not because I was actually an MJ fanboy though. I am however a fan of the "old man in sports trope." Thats because i like stories more than i like sports. when sports becomes "a story" I find it more interesting. But in reality, i just dont give a rats ass about any specific player. Not anymore. the name on the back of the jersey means little to me. In fact the team name on the front of the jersey means less and less the older I get. Right now the GSW are my favorite team to watch because i like the brand of basketball they play. and they came with a fresh approach and believed in their convictions. their style. I love watching them kick lebron's tail too. In this case i like watching the polished kids kick the dog shxt out of the brazen kids. Sometimes the brazen kids are the better story.

But sports mean less and less and less to me the older i get. I'm almost embarrassed by how much i liked sports as a child. Basketball is the only sport left that i watch. I dont even watch the superbowl. The only reason i even watch basketball anymore is to prove to myself which type of team is theoretically better to build and which type of player is better suited to fill a certain role on any given theoretical team to help produce wins. and then talk about it here on realgm.

That's interesting but you didn't really respond to what I wrote.

How can you support a person (Trump) who is diametrically opposed to everything Obama/Sanders stand for?

I mean you did say you voted for Obama (three times) and Sanders...and yet you seem to be an enthusiastic supporter of Trump.

I can only assume you now disagree with the politics of Obama/Sanders.

There's no other explanation.

I really want this to be about political issues versus about me. I've been asked questions about me so I feel like I have to put something out there but really. this should be about the issues.

Thats said, obama was just a great politician so i thought it would translate to great world leader and lead america back into being a world power and creating real opportunity for all americans. I thought he would get stuff done that moved the needle. Things didn't really change and instead costs kind of skyrocketed. In the end made Obama a closet socialist/globalist-which i dont necessarily oppose if its real. problem is its never real. the wealth is never actually spread around and the entire world never benefits. Instead the ruling class hoards the welath. and things just get more expensive. in obama case, mainly education and healthcare. Sanders was an unapologetic idealist/socialist-with no realist plan to redistribute wealth to pay for the "programs." Still though, in my heart of hearts, if possible. I can get on board with the a true socialist agenda. But it just wont ever actually happen. Someone is always there, however much behind the scenes profiting. So it was easy for me to support trump and hope for the best as he clearly has an agenda to benefit the american middle class. which is a start.

[gtn130]

see this is just silly talk. complete utter silly non sense. This is the smallest of small ball. It doesn't even look like Trump is barely turning a profit on that $1000 for 2 nights even if its just a single room. And that isn't some rediculous fee for the room especially with last minute booking. Was it a suite? how many people are on this council? I cant even tell if they had more than one room or if they had a suite?? I worked in the hotel industry in the early-mid 90's. chicago. high end hotel. but just a hilton. Not a trump. but even we charged $244 per night for a single. suites started in the $700's. This was 20 years ago.

In fact that almost sounds like a discounted rate. and it just speaks to absolute sillyness to even bring this kind of stuff up...If trump is going for "pay-to play" his payoff will be huge. hundreds of millions. You honestly think trump upped the cost of his suite a few hundred bucks to pocket a few benjamins???

There's no de minimus exceptions to the emoluments clause. Otherwise you get liars and scoundrels saying things like "meh that's small potatoes." Every time Trump gets a monetary benefit as a result of his being President he is breaking the law. He's a criminal.

this small ball you are playing is so damn small. its complete and utter non sense. its not worth responding to. petty theft!!?? you want to take trump to small claims court!!?? come on, man.

Dude, Mar-a-lago is literally used as a receptacle for pay-to-play political donations. Want access to Trump? Go sign up for a $200k/year Mar-a-lago membership, a fee that he doubled when he became president.

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i guess its kinda like sports. I came to the wizards board 17 year ago as an overgrown 28-29 year old MJ fanboy. lol. but really i did. Not because I was actually an MJ fanboy though. I am however a fan of the "old man in sports trope." Thats because i like stories more than i like sports. when sports becomes "a story" I find it more interesting. But in reality, i just dont give a rats ass about any specific player. Not anymore. the name on the back of the jersey means little to me. In fact the team name on the front of the jersey means less and less the older I get. Right now the GSW are my favorite team to watch because i like the brand of basketball they play. and they came with a fresh approach and believed in their convictions. their style. I love watching them kick lebron's tail too. In this case i like watching the polished kids kick the dog shxt out of the brazen kids. Sometimes the brazen kids are the better story.

But sports mean less and less and less to me the older i get. I'm almost embarrassed by how much i liked sports as a child. Basketball is the only sport left that i watch. I dont even watch the superbowl. The only reason i even watch basketball anymore is to prove to myself which type of team is theoretically better to build and which type of player is better suited to fill a certain role on any given theoretical team to help produce wins. and then talk about it here on realgm.

That's interesting but you didn't really respond to what I wrote.

How can you support a person (Trump) who is diametrically opposed to everything Obama/Sanders stand for?

I mean you did say you voted for Obama (three times) and Sanders...and yet you seem to be an enthusiastic supporter of Trump.

I can only assume you now disagree with the politics of Obama/Sanders.

There's no other explanation.

I really want this to be about political issues versus about me. I've been asked questions about me so I feel like I have to put something out there but really. this should be about the issues.

It's about you because you don't command the basic facts. You're really into these conspiratorial (((globalist))) narratives that seem to dictate your entire world view, and you're not going to let reality get in the way of that.