Me7o Thread: Hoodie edition

[mpharris36]

you're capping out the team with role players. that's not how contenders build teams. they pay the stars first, then the role players. do it in the wrong order and you're screwed. think of this scenario, kp really becomes all we hope and guys around the league take notice. some player wants to jump ship and come play with kp but we have no cap space because we used it on harkless and myers leonard. so it's dumb and shortsighted.

we need to get better first before any big time free agent considers us. The Noah/Lee $$$ is the chip we will need to cash in for another superstar down the road. Harkless 10 million ain't costing us a major FA.

you can't get rid of noah's money. with harkless and having to take leonard, who you can't get rid of, you're paying 20 mill for harkless. you are screwing your cap for 3 more years. it's insane.

you're so gung ho to dump melo that you'll accept almost anything.

we're not making the deal and you'll like it. lock this thread and then ban everyone. make it happen capn'o.

why are you assuming we are taking leonard?

they have enough expirings + harkless to make it happen (ed davis + vonleh) just would need another minumum type contract.

[god shammgod]

why not? Isn't he a solid 3 and d player that hussles.

you're capping out the team with role players. that's not how contenders build teams. they pay the stars first, then the role players. do it in the wrong order and you're screwed. think of this scenario, kp really becomes all we hope and guys around the league take notice. some player wants to jump ship and come play with kp but we have no cap space because we used it on harkless and myers leonard. so it's dumb and shortsighted.

That's EXACTLY how contenders build teams. Spurs (Green, Mills, etc), Rockets (Ariza, Gordon, to an extent Anderson, Williams, etc), Cavs (Shumpert, JR, Korver, etc).

...You get the point. Harkless is still young, plays within systems, and not expensive at all.

--Mags

the rockets built their current team by having cap space to sign cp3. if they didn't he never could have threatened the clippers with signing there. the spurs used cap space to sign aldrige. the number 2 player on both teams were signed with cap space. if you want someone to come play with kp, you're gonna need it. you could pray you find that player in the draft but it's not that easy.

[god shammgod]

by the way, kp and willy wilyl have to be paid before the noah, leonard, harkless contracts are done.

[magnumt]

you're capping out the team with role players. that's not how contenders build teams. they pay the stars first, then the role players. do it in the wrong order and you're screwed. think of this scenario, kp really becomes all we hope and guys around the league take notice. some player wants to jump ship and come play with kp but we have no cap space because we used it on harkless and myers leonard. so it's dumb and shortsighted.

That's EXACTLY how contenders build teams. Spurs (Green, Mills, etc), Rockets (Ariza, Gordon, to an extent Anderson, Williams, etc), Cavs (Shumpert, JR, Korver, etc).

...You get the point. Harkless is still young, plays within systems, and not expensive at all.

--Mags

the rockets built their current team by having cap space to sign cp3. if they didn't he never could have threatened the clippers with signing there. the spurs used cap space to sign aldrige. the number 2 player on both teams were signed with cap space. if you want someone to come play with kp, you're gonna need it. you could pray you find that player in the draft but it's not that easy.

Make up your mind. You wanna complain about signing Stars or you wanna complain about signing Role Players?

... Cause that's not what you said above.

--Mags

[DOT]

by the way, kp and willy wilyl have to be paid before the noah, leonard, harkless contracts are done.

Only KP, not Willy

And we only have ~60 million in committed money for that year anyways, so we can max out KP and have over 20 million left over

[god shammgod]

That's EXACTLY how contenders build teams. Spurs (Green, Mills, etc), Rockets (Ariza, Gordon, to an extent Anderson, Williams, etc), Cavs (Shumpert, JR, Korver, etc).

...You get the point. Harkless is still young, plays within systems, and not expensive at all.

--Mags

the rockets built their current team by having cap space to sign cp3. if they didn't he never could have threatened the clippers with signing there. the spurs used cap space to sign aldrige. the number 2 player on both teams were signed with cap space. if you want someone to come play with kp, you're gonna need it. you could pray you find that player in the draft but it's not that easy.

Make up your mind. You wanna complain about signing Stars or you wanna complain about signing Role Players?

... Cause that's not what you said above.

--Mags

i'm not complaining about signing stars. i'm saying you need the money for that. you misunderstood something.

[blueNorange]

It makes more sense for Melo to opt out because a team is going to be willing to give him a 2-3 year contract next year @ 15-20 per but might not be willing to do it after that especially if signing him means the rest of the banana boat crew is coming with.

if a team is giving melo 15-20mm per year then either:

1. they're dumb
2. melo averaged 20+ ppg

if it's #2 then lol that's not gonna happen. melo is behind the depth chart. kristaps is #1 and they signed thj to be #2. IF the option was #1 then i feel bad for the team that gives an average 3pt specialist to 15-20mm per year.

[Capn'O]

Must have been our trip to the Japanese Gardens. Very tranquil and Mt. Hood was out in full glory.

[magnumt]

the rockets built their current team by having cap space to sign cp3. if they didn't he never could have threatened the clippers with signing there. the spurs used cap space to sign aldrige. the number 2 player on both teams were signed with cap space. if you want someone to come play with kp, you're gonna need it. you could pray you find that player in the draft but it's not that easy.

Make up your mind. You wanna complain about signing Stars or you wanna complain about signing Role Players?

... Cause that's not what you said above.

--Mags

i'm not complaining about signing stars. i'm saying you need the money for that. you misunderstood something.

You said you don't want to be bogged down with role player contracts because the Contenders don't do it. I showed you how they do. You then switched gears to stars being signed.

We have two young and cheap stars (possibly a 3rd). Just fuqn let things play out.

Harkless is a good role player locked into a good deal.

--Mags

[blueNorange]

we better not be taking back leonard, that's not much better

well it appears you're gonna hate the outcome no matter what, so prepare babay!

[Knicksfan1992]

It makes more sense for Melo to opt out because a team is going to be willing to give him a 2-3 year contract next year @ 15-20 per but might not be willing to do it after that especially if signing him means the rest of the banana boat crew is coming with.

if a team is giving melo 15-20mm per year then either:

1. they're dumb
2. melo averaged 20+ ppg

if it's #2 then lol that's not gonna happen. melo is behind the depth chart. kristaps is #1 and they signed thj to be #2. IF the option was #1 then i feel bad for the team that gives an average 3pt specialist to 15-20mm per year.

Just when I think you can't go further with the Melo hate you top it every time BnO You amuse me.

[mademan]

It makes more sense for Melo to opt out because a team is going to be willing to give him a 2-3 year contract next year @ 15-20 per but might not be willing to do it after that especially if signing him means the rest of the banana boat crew is coming with.

if a team is giving melo 15-20mm per year then either:

1. they're dumb
2. melo averaged 20+ ppg

if it's #2 then lol that's not gonna happen. melo is behind the depth chart. kristaps is #1 and they signed thj to be #2. IF the option was #1 then i feel bad for the team that gives an average 3pt specialist to 15-20mm per year.

If Melo stays on NY, there's almost no way he doesnt lead the team in FGA.

[Knicksfan1992]

Melo should really consider Portland. They may not be a premiere team. But they’ll make some significant noice. Let’s just say if GSW suffer significant injuries by playoff any of the top 6 teams (including Portland) can go deep.

Lillard, McCollum, Nurkic and Anthony is a solid group .

Ugh. I hate the fit for him on Portland. Lillard and Anthony are both negatives on defense. Anthony not so much at the 4, but still not someone that's going to elevate your defense at all. Lillard is terrible on that end. McCollum isn't anything more than average defensively. Even with Aminu and Nurk they're still going to be below average, especially, when we take Harkless away in the deal. I think they would have to make another deal as well to add a defender mid season to be a top 4 team in the West.

[god shammgod]

Make up your mind. You wanna complain about signing Stars or you wanna complain about signing Role Players?

... Cause that's not what you said above.

--Mags

i'm not complaining about signing stars. i'm saying you need the money for that. you misunderstood something.

You said you don't want to be bogged down with role player contracts because the Contenders don't do it. I showed you how they do. You then switched gears to stars being signed.

We have two young and cheap stars (possibly a 3rd). Just fuqn let things play out.

Harkless is a good role player locked into a good deal.

--Mags

i don't want to be bogged down with role players so we have the cap space needed to sign someone to play with kp. you mentioned the spurs. and i explained that the spurs had cap space to sign aldrige. i didn't switch gears, you just didn't understand. harkless's contract would be fine if we still had enough cap space to sign someone significant but with noah and possibly leonard we won't. for 3 years. the spurs let jonahthn simmons walk this year because they know they're going to have to stay flexible to get someone to play with leonard in the next couple of years. flexibility is important.

[Capn'O]

I'd take Meyers Leonard if they gave us Collins

It'd have to be something, innit?

Vonleh would be nice as well. He's a bit of a deer in the headlights but unlike Leonard seems to be making strides in that department.

[god shammgod]

we better not be taking back leonard, that's not much better

well it appears you're gonna hate the outcome no matter what, so prepare babay!

i would rather just cut him. that's only 2 years of cap hell.

[Rasho Brezec]

we better not be taking back leonard, that's not much better

For the tank it is, be quiet.

[Capn'O]

we better not be taking back leonard, that's not much better

well it appears you're gonna hate the outcome no matter what, so prepare babay!

i would rather just cut him. that's only 2 years of cap hell.

Well damn. You joined team buyout?

The Portland option could be made more worth our while than the Houston one. I still think we need to do a few years more wiggling before we're in position to sign a big name anyway. The Hardaway deal made all of that harder. We have to hit on some more draft pieces and have hit on Frank.

[Capn'O]

we better not be taking back leonard, that's not much better

For the tank it is, be quiet.

For sure. Leonard sucks like a motherfcker.

[god shammgod]

well it appears you're gonna hate the outcome no matter what, so prepare babay!

i would rather just cut him. that's only 2 years of cap hell.

Well damn. You joined team buyout?

The Portland option could be made more worth our while than the Houston one. I still think we need to do a few years more wiggling before we're in position to sign a big name anyway. The Hardaway deal made all of that harder. We have to hit on some more draft pieces and have hit on Frank.

yeah. the timmy deal was dumb. but it's too late to change that. no need to add to it.