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Political Roundtable Part XV

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#661 » by payitforward » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:52 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:yes that POS Wilson passed the federal reserve act essentially turning our country over to the Rothschild banking cartel.

BS -- utter & awful BS.

stilldropin20 wrote:This was the beginning of the end.

So... you are saying that people are less prosperous now than before the Wilson regime. & that the American economy stalled at that point & has had insignificant growth since then.

Honestly, you are a bag of nonsensical gas, man. Wow!

And all of our fore father save that original POS Hamilton knew the dangers. 2 of the worst president of all-time just due to their clamoring for the central banks.

stilldropin20 wrote: a sovereign country can provide a stable economy. Once we let europeans control the money supply we were screwed. we sold the country right there.

The government provides economic stability? Not the market? Europeans control our money supply?

We lost control of our country in 1913? That must mean that in 1913 we were the most powerful nation on Earth but now we are a 3d class power? That in 1913 our economy was the most productive on the planet, but now it is a 3d class economy?

That's what you are saying, right?

stilldropin20 wrote:Why are we still on a gold back currency which makes it harder to create a free and flowing money supply as gold has a limited money supply. We weren't suppose to end up (entirely dependent on) money. The original intent of "money" was to create an easy and stable way to exchanged goods or labor. Historically, various regimes/empires, like King George of England and his tally sticks, have used various forms of currency and made that currency abundant. Problems aka recession and depressions seem to only occur when the money supply is silver or gold backed. When the money supply is made abundant like tally sticks were, economies flourish. when the money supply is constricted we end up in recessions and depressions.

Just think for a second: if everyone had enough "money" to exchange goods and services and the value of that money wasn't diminished, the economy would flourish. Good and services would flow freely. it really is that simple. the problem is that their would be no "poor." without the "poor" there would also be no "rich." We cant have that!!!

This is totally amazing.

1. Our currency is *not* based on gold or other species. What are you talking about?
2. Tally sticks aren't money. They're a way of recording debts. Yes, you could trade them -- just as you can trade debt today -- that doesn't mean they are money, & certainly not that you could run an economy like ours using them.... Wow!!
3. Relating recessions/depressions to gold-backed currencyis plain idiotic. It's the opposite of the truth.
4. "It really is that simple." -- you misspelled that. You meant to write "I really am that simple."

As to all this:
stilldropin20 wrote:getting back to the point you made on the federal reserve act. Original board members Morgan and Rockefellor were funded by whom? Rothschild. Why was european born and Rothschild baking agent JP Morgan even allowed to essentially write the charter for the fed reserve. It's disgusting. Woodrew wilson (and congress) sold us out right then and there to the european banking cartel. this was the 3rd and final try. It stuck. It's now "too big to" get out from under. they own our entire economy and have been allowed to implement their central banks the world over. whoever buys your debt or lends you money owns you. Think about it. "what do you need the money for? oh sure! here you go. just do this one thing more me first." there is no reason for the U.S.A. to borrow money from anyone, let alone international bankers who have international interests. This goes against all common sense thinking on foreign policy...especially considering we can print our own money and successfully have done just that in some of the most flourishing era's of our history. eg. greenbacks. Lincoln used the greenback to keep the north funded. The united states simply printed money not backed by gold or silver. just the confidence of the united states government.

As you know Lincoln was assassinated by a rando dude. Not unlike kennedy, assassinated by a rando. Andrew Jackson who battled alexander hamilton's attempts to form a central bank and crushed the first incarnation of the european central bank and delayed future attempts faced attempted assassination also by a rando dude as well.

think about it.

It's not possible to "think about it", as it's a stream of inventions.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#662 » by dobrojim » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:57 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
yes! and yes!!

manafort could be the devil. and trump a fool for not vetting him harder. and if the highest level obama aides surveilled manafort at trump tower and especially conversations with pres elect trump then trump is also fully vindicated for his statement. its a travesty that these conversations were leaked. all to make trump look foolish too. I mean trump didn't do that well enough on his own? so they surveilled him via the manafort fisa warrant and leaked it??

i mean we all know trump is learning on the fly and isnt good at "politics." on this much we all agree? I'd say his learning curve is pretty damn steep though.

and perhaps manafort is the russian devil they been looking for. We'll see. I doubt it. but he could be and im open to it for sure. and jail time if he was colluding. and trump should be impeached if trump agreed/knew to it. but (if) again IF manafort was colluding. i need hard evidence that trump knew. Not manafort's word after manafort is given an immunity deal. NO IMMUNITY!!!!!! The american people need the truth on this one not a witch hunt. If manafort is willing to go away for 7 years or more and tell the truth, so be it. I'd be the first to impeach trump. But...if they get manafort on something, anything, especially not related to this election and they leverage him with an immunity deal to turn state's, then that is such a far cry from justice that I wont ever talk about politics again. truth and justice will be dead to me forever. and whoever wants to scorch earth this mutha I wouldn't stop 'em. I'm so tired of political witch hunts. the american people deserve the truth. The DOJ, FBI, CIA are not political weapons!!


This post ^ needs to be saved. It's classic on so many levels.

Anything that challenges their view of the greatness of the emperors attire must be immediately
and unceremoniously dismissed out of hand as untrue fake news delivered by untrustworthy
unpatriotic evildoers with their own agenda.
ie witchhunts

I'll re-ask the question - what do you think was Donald's principle motivation in selecting Manafort
as his campiagn chairman? A followup might be, do you think that motivation played any role
in the lack of a thorough vetting of Manafort?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#663 » by payitforward » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:57 pm

DCZards wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:See this post is why I asked a question. You should be embarrassed. any body who agrees with this post as identifiying things trump has lied about should equally be embarrassed. Because none of these are even statements "to be fact checked," let alone considered lies. These are opinion statements. Come on. I gave you one. "Mexico is going to pay for it." And its NOT even a lie yet!!! the damn wall isn't even approved to be built!!!! but when it is approved (and he is likely going to get his wall)it will likely be a lie that mexico is going to pay for it...even if he alters future trade agreements with mexico and gets retroactive funding for the wall later I will still cave and call it a lie. But "drain the swamp!!!""" this is an opinion statement. It's fact check proof. In half of the american people right now think he is doing just that, attempting to drain the swamp: which could mean a variety of things. To me it means doing things differently with a different approach and helping to get people out or out of the way of the new approach and trump is certainly doing things differently.


What the h*ll are you talking about?? Trump said “I’m going to drain the swamp,” which is a statement not an opinion. Saying “I think the swamp needs to be drained” would be an opinion.

I’m finding it harder and harder to believe that you’re a dentist, a licensed real estate and that you hold a doctorate degree, as you claim. Because you say some ignorant stuff.

I like my dentist (not to say I like having to go the dentist, but still...). I'm sorry this dodo brings down the average intelligence of dentists so severely. Being a licensed real estate agent (if that's what he is) provides no credentials for the ability to think. As to this guy having a doctorate degree -- not from a real university he doesn't. Not a chance.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#664 » by dobrojim » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:00 pm

IDK - Ben Carson
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#665 » by payitforward » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:07 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:Just off the top of my head, "My inauguration crowd was bigger than Obama's," "Obama ordered that Trump tower be wiretapped," "I would have won the popular vote if 3 million people hadn't voted illegally."

All three of those are preposterous lies. You need two more? "My penis is large." "It's totally ok to sexually assault women."


"more people...around the world... viewed...the inauguration" is the terminology I saw originally. and it looks correct. not a lie....

No. What he said was that there was a massive crowd, biggest ever, at his inauguration & that the media intentionally lied about it. When photos (taken at the moment he was inaugurated) showed that the mall wasn't anywhere near full, he claimed that the photos were taken much earlier in the day & were intended to misrepresent how many people attended the event -- they were, as he likes to say, "fake news."

It was Sean Spicer who tried spin the matter around the "global" or "online" audience -- not Trump. I.e. he was trying to put out the fire his stupid boss had lit under his own a$$. Moreover, Nielsen then did an estimate on that question of global audience -- & concluded that the global online, tuned-in, etc. audience for Trump's Inaug was 19% lower than the number for Barack Obama's 2009 Inauguration.

So, now we're clear. Trump is a pathological liar. & you are a guy who swears by him.

It would be ok if you went away, really it would. No one would miss you.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#666 » by payitforward » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:24 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:In term of voting. I'm from chicago. When I voted, i walked right in and voted. No ID. Nothing. they didn't even ask me if I was american or what my name was. I assume its like this everywhere....

It's not like that everywhere; it's not like that anywhere, & it's not like that in Chicago.

I'm from Chicago, & most of my family still lives there as do many many friends. I just did a quick check around that world, & everyone agrees that voting in Chicago was the usual rigamarole of identification, etc.

In other words, you're a lying sack of sh*t.

stilldropin20 wrote: yet we dont even ask for ID"S at the voting booth!!!!!!!!????? Are you effing kidding me!!!!!??????? Seriously!!!!!!!!

...we dont even need an ID to vote!!??
...et you can walk in and vote in this country with out a damn ID???
... let's start with valid ID's to vote then i know you are at least (somewhat) serious about protecting out election process. My gawwwwd!!! Common sense goes a long way, sometimes. Until then?? we dont know who is voting.

Repeating lies doesn't make them true.

stilldropin20 wrote:imo opinion electronic voting with thumb prints on an unhackable network is absolutely necessary.

I'm a serial technology entrepreneur. I've started companies, consulted to startups, done due diligence for venture capitalists, etc. etc. etc.

This is the first time I've ever read anything by anyone dumb enough to propose "an unhackable network." Let me ask you this, you moron, what does the word "network" mean?

I'd be willing to bet you are unable to come up with a definition without doing some research.

I tell you what, let me give you something easier: what is the square root of 961 please? Do it in your head in less than 15 seconds, please. Got it? Still working on it? Ok, I'll give you a hint:
Spoiler:
30 times 30 equals 900.

Did you need the hint? Did it even help you? Still struggling? Here's the answer:
Spoiler:
Scr#w you. Figure it out yourself. Then vanish.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#667 » by montestewart » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:29 pm

This might be a good time to weigh in regarding where we stand on Birtherism and Trutherism. For me, the jury's still out on them (evolution too), but I wish I could find a good video on YouTube explaining the connection between Birtherism and Trutherism.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#668 » by DCZards » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:30 pm

payitforward wrote:
In other words, you're a lying sack of sh*t.


uummm...might SD20 actually be Donald Trump. There is that similarity as you note above.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#669 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:31 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:Just off the top of my head, "My inauguration crowd was bigger than Obama's," "Obama ordered that Trump tower be wiretapped," "I would have won the popular vote if 3 million people hadn't voted illegally."

All three of those are preposterous lies. You need two more? "My penis is large." "It's totally ok to sexually assault women."


"more people...around the world... viewed...the inauguration" is the terminology I saw originally. and it looks correct. not a lie.

Obama administration DID IN FACT, surveille Paul Manafort and attained the warrant via Fisa court-that means that either susan Rice, comey or clapper (or all 3?) ordered the fisa warrant. That's as high up as it goes in terms of "obama." I highly highly highly highly doubt Obama himself wasnt briefed. This likely went via the DNC to Rice and Obama directly. Rice will likely fall on her sword if asked though. Manafort did(still does?) during the campaign have an apt at Trump tower. Trump owns trump tower. Conversations between trump and manafort appear to be surveilled and recorded. leaked even!!! yet, the damn fisa warrant is sealed!!!!!

In term of voting. I'm from chicago. When I voted, i walked right in and voted. No ID. Nothing. they didn't even ask me if I was american or what my name was. I assume its like this everywhere. And I say why!!!!!!!!! we're so damn worried about russia employing some catfish hack on facebook with fake news!!! yet we dont even ask for ID"S at the voting booth!!!!!!!!????? Are you effing kidding me!!!!!??????? Seriously!!!!!!!!

I cant even imagine what, in God's green earth, are we so damn worried about Russia hacking an election from the left and the left doesn't want voter reform. we dont even need an ID to vote!!?? I mean, not only is a valid and current ID necessary but so should fingerprinting frankly (a thumb). half of you use your thumb prints to use our iphone and have a 20 character password on your venmo account before you send your buddy $7.50 for half thepizza last night yet you can walk in and vote in this country with out a damn ID??? and then you want to get you panties in a bundle over some russian boilerroom catfish BS on facebook spreading fake news!!??? Gimme a break. let's start with valid ID's to vote then i know you are at least (somewhat) serious about protecting out election process. My gawwwwd!!! Common sense goes a long way, sometimes. Until then?? we dont know who is voting.

imo opinion electronic voting with thumb prints on an unhackable network is absolutely necessary. people can still show up to vote but that they too needs ID's with e thumb print.

In terms of sexual assault? again, more far left fauxrage (i coined this on facebook about 4 years ago, feel free to use) over BS locker room talk. I've been on realgm for 16 years. I've seen and read worse from nearly everyone of you. and if it wasn't you that said it. you laughed at it. and we haven't even had a beer together. Billionaire's tend to have NO trouble attracting women. just the way it is in a capitalistic/materialistic society. never heard anything about trump about any of this until october 2016. Is he another rich jackass troll? I'm quite sure he is. they all are. every. damn. one. of. them. so, im not going to hold him to any kind of higher standard. they all suck as human beings. Barrack Obama ordered nearly 2500 drone strikes. Women and children died in those drone strikes. Being president. Its a dirty frickin job, man. very dirty. get over it!


So you admit trump has a tiny dick. Just so we're clear.

Weren't you banned at one point?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#670 » by cammac » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:46 pm

To change the topic somewhat my wife and I are planning a trip to South Africa, Mozambique and Zimbabwe in November and then a short stay in both Lithuania and a few days in London before returning mid December to Canada. We are lucky we are going to travel with a African Baha'i friend who we knew in China so South Africa isn't a problem. But she hasn't been in Mozambique or Zimbabwe so recommendations in private mail would be appreciated.

Also if any of you need tips about China or other places in South East Asia I can be helpful from living and doing business there for 10 years.
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Post#671 » by montestewart » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:52 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:In terms of sexual assault? again, more far left fauxrage (i coined this on facebook about 4 years ago, feel free to use) over BS locker room talk.


Wow, you really are just like your idol. Fauxrage goes back at least to 2008, when a definition was posted in the
Urban Dictionary. People have been adding modifiers to it ever since (right-wing fauxrage, conservative fauxrage, Christian fundamentalist fauxrage, etc.) but I have to admit, far left fauxrage is really clever.

I would add, for anyone reading who actually thinks the issue was about "locker room talk," (because we're not actually talking with STD) that quite a few women have said that Trump groped, fondled, or otherwise sexually assaulted them. Trump's and his supporters' defenses and denials are right out of the Bill Clinton/Bill Cosby powerful-man-accused-of-sexual-misconduct playbook.

stilldropin20 wrote:I've been on realgm for 16 years.

Well, there was that 10 year gap. What was that all about? And as long as we're talking politics, what's with the Bulls logo? When you left RealGM all those years back, weren't you a Wizards fan? What happened, and why aren't you posting on the Bulls board? Don't they have a cool politics thread?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#672 » by NatP4 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:10 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:Just off the top of my head, "My inauguration crowd was bigger than Obama's," "Obama ordered that Trump tower be wiretapped," "I would have won the popular vote if 3 million people hadn't voted illegally."

All three of those are preposterous lies. You need two more? "My penis is large." "It's totally ok to sexually assault women."


"more people...around the world... viewed...the inauguration" is the terminology I saw originally. and it looks correct. not a lie.

Obama administration DID IN FACT, surveille Paul Manafort and attained the warrant via Fisa court-that means that either susan Rice, comey or clapper (or all 3?) ordered the fisa warrant. That's as high up as it goes in terms of "obama." I highly highly highly highly doubt Obama himself wasnt briefed. This likely went via the DNC to Rice and Obama directly. Rice will likely fall on her sword if asked though. Manafort did(still does?) during the campaign have an apt at Trump tower. Trump owns trump tower. Conversations between trump and manafort appear to be surveilled and recorded. leaked even!!! yet, the damn fisa warrant is sealed!!!!!

In term of voting. I'm from chicago. When I voted, i walked right in and voted. No ID. Nothing. they didn't even ask me if I was american or what my name was. I assume its like this everywhere. And I say why!!!!!!!!! we're so damn worried about russia employing some catfish hack on facebook with fake news!!! yet we dont even ask for ID"S at the voting booth!!!!!!!!????? Are you effing kidding me!!!!!??????? Seriously!!!!!!!!

I cant even imagine what, in God's green earth, are we so damn worried about Russia hacking an election from the left and the left doesn't want voter reform. we dont even need an ID to vote!!?? I mean, not only is a valid and current ID necessary but so should fingerprinting frankly (a thumb). half of you use your thumb prints to use our iphone and have a 20 character password on your venmo account before you send your buddy $7.50 for half thepizza last night yet you can walk in and vote in this country with out a damn ID??? and then you want to get you panties in a bundle over some russian boilerroom catfish BS on facebook spreading fake news!!??? Gimme a break. let's start with valid ID's to vote then i know you are at least (somewhat) serious about protecting out election process. My gawwwwd!!! Common sense goes a long way, sometimes. Until then?? we dont know who is voting.

imo opinion electronic voting with thumb prints on an unhackable network is absolutely necessary. people can still show up to vote but that they too needs ID's with e thumb print.

In terms of sexual assault? again, more far left fauxrage (i coined this on facebook about 4 years ago, feel free to use) over BS locker room talk. I've been on realgm for 16 years. I've seen and read worse from nearly everyone of you. and if it wasn't you that said it. you laughed at it. and we haven't even had a beer together. Billionaire's tend to have NO trouble attracting women. just the way it is in a capitalistic/materialistic society. never heard anything about trump about any of this until october 2016. Is he another rich jackass troll? I'm quite sure he is. they all are. every. damn. one. of. them. so, im not going to hold him to any kind of higher standard. they all suck as human beings. Barrack Obama ordered nearly 2500 drone strikes. Women and children died in those drone strikes. Being president. Its a dirty frickin job, man. very dirty. get over it!


So you admit trump has a tiny dick. Just so we're clear.

Weren't you banned at one point?


Huh
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#673 » by montestewart » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:19 pm

NatP4 wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
"more people...around the world... viewed...the inauguration" is the terminology I saw originally. and it looks correct. not a lie.

Obama administration DID IN FACT, surveille Paul Manafort and attained the warrant via Fisa court-that means that either susan Rice, comey or clapper (or all 3?) ordered the fisa warrant. That's as high up as it goes in terms of "obama." I highly highly highly highly doubt Obama himself wasnt briefed. This likely went via the DNC to Rice and Obama directly. Rice will likely fall on her sword if asked though. Manafort did(still does?) during the campaign have an apt at Trump tower. Trump owns trump tower. Conversations between trump and manafort appear to be surveilled and recorded. leaked even!!! yet, the damn fisa warrant is sealed!!!!!

In term of voting. I'm from chicago. When I voted, i walked right in and voted. No ID. Nothing. they didn't even ask me if I was american or what my name was. I assume its like this everywhere. And I say why!!!!!!!!! we're so damn worried about russia employing some catfish hack on facebook with fake news!!! yet we dont even ask for ID"S at the voting booth!!!!!!!!????? Are you effing kidding me!!!!!??????? Seriously!!!!!!!!

I cant even imagine what, in God's green earth, are we so damn worried about Russia hacking an election from the left and the left doesn't want voter reform. we dont even need an ID to vote!!?? I mean, not only is a valid and current ID necessary but so should fingerprinting frankly (a thumb). half of you use your thumb prints to use our iphone and have a 20 character password on your venmo account before you send your buddy $7.50 for half thepizza last night yet you can walk in and vote in this country with out a damn ID??? and then you want to get you panties in a bundle over some russian boilerroom catfish BS on facebook spreading fake news!!??? Gimme a break. let's start with valid ID's to vote then i know you are at least (somewhat) serious about protecting out election process. My gawwwwd!!! Common sense goes a long way, sometimes. Until then?? we dont know who is voting.

imo opinion electronic voting with thumb prints on an unhackable network is absolutely necessary. people can still show up to vote but that they too needs ID's with e thumb print.

In terms of sexual assault? again, more far left fauxrage (i coined this on facebook about 4 years ago, feel free to use) over BS locker room talk. I've been on realgm for 16 years. I've seen and read worse from nearly everyone of you. and if it wasn't you that said it. you laughed at it. and we haven't even had a beer together. Billionaire's tend to have NO trouble attracting women. just the way it is in a capitalistic/materialistic society. never heard anything about trump about any of this until october 2016. Is he another rich jackass troll? I'm quite sure he is. they all are. every. damn. one. of. them. so, im not going to hold him to any kind of higher standard. they all suck as human beings. Barrack Obama ordered nearly 2500 drone strikes. Women and children died in those drone strikes. Being president. Its a dirty frickin job, man. very dirty. get over it!


So you admit trump has a tiny dick. Just so we're clear.

Weren't you banned at one point?


Huh

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Post#674 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:23 pm

Damn, bros. Y'all went hard core! But really. You guys should just have s sig: "you don't like Trump and intend to destroy him at all costs and that there isn't even room for debate. "

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Post#675 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:38 pm

SD20, you can drool all over Trump's nutsack all you want as long as you play Destiny 2 on the PS4 and can help me do the raid.
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Post#676 » by NatP4 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:22 pm

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Post#677 » by stilldropin20 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:04 am

montestewart wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:In terms of sexual assault? again, more far left fauxrage (i coined this on facebook about 4 years ago, feel free to use) over BS locker room talk.


Wow, you really are just like your idol. Fauxrage goes back at least to 2008, when a definition was posted in the
Urban Dictionary. People have been adding modifiers to it ever since (right-wing fauxrage, conservative fauxrage, Christian fundamentalist fauxrage, etc.) but I have to admit, far left fauxrage is really clever.

I would add, for anyone reading who actually thinks the issue was about "locker room talk," (because we're not actually talking with STD) that quite a few women have said that Trump groped, fondled, or otherwise sexually assaulted them. Trump's and his supporters' defenses and denials are right out of the Bill Clinton/Bill Cosby powerful-man-accused-of-sexual-misconduct playbook.

stilldropin20 wrote:I've been on realgm for 16 years.

Well, there was that 10 year gap. What was that all about? And as long as we're talking politics, what's with the Bulls logo? When you left RealGM all those years back, weren't you a Wizards fan? What happened, and why aren't you posting on the Bulls board? Don't they have a cool politics thread?


what! no! not fauxrage! at least give me fauxrage! :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#678 » by gtn130 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:18 am

SD20 is one of those guys who believes every single conspiracy theory *except* that there was any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign
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Post#679 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:36 am

DCZards wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:See this post is why I asked a question. You should be embarrassed. any body who agrees with this post as identifiying things trump has lied about should equally be embarrassed. Because none of these are even statements "to be fact checked," let alone considered lies. These are opinion statements. Come on. I gave you one. "Mexico is going to pay for it." And its NOT even a lie yet!!! the damn wall isn't even approved to be built!!!! but when it is approved (and he is likely going to get his wall)it will likely be a lie that mexico is going to pay for it...even if he alters future trade agreements with mexico and gets retroactive funding for the wall later I will still cave and call it a lie. But "drain the swamp!!!""" this is an opinion statement. It's fact check proof. In half of the american people right now think he is doing just that, attempting to drain the swamp: which could mean a variety of things. To me it means doing things differently with a different approach and helping to get people out or out of the way of the new approach and trump is certainly doing things differently.


What the h*ll are you talking about?? Trump said “I’m going to drain the swamp,” which is a statement not an opinion. Saying “I think the swamp needs to be drained” would be an opinion.

I’m finding it harder and harder to believe that you’re a dentist, a licensed real estate and that you hold a doctorate degree, as you claim. Because you say some ignorant stuff.



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Re: Political Roundtable Part XV 

Post#680 » by payitforward » Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:28 am

Ok, what I *do* like about SD20 is that he doesn't seem to care what you call him. Call him a liar, & he lies some more. Call him an idiot, & he says something dumber than the last thing.

You're all right in my book, SD, you dimwitted, unprincipled, falsifier! Keep it up. Just keep it up.

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