Political Roundtable Part XV

[JWizmentality]

Wow, good on you Ravens and Jaguars. Whole lot of snowflake deplorables about to get triggered.

[JWizmentality]

Having said that I'm wondering if I am well since I'm starting to come around on Trump.

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I'll bite. Why?

[montestewart]

Having said that I'm wondering if I am well since I'm starting to come around on Trump.

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Sometimes, you just gotta drink yourself some Kool-Aid.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Having said that I'm wondering if I am well since I'm starting to come around on Trump.

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I'll bite. Why?

I liked the UN speech.

(Totally disagree with his latest on protesting NFL players should be fired for kneeling. Also, I am glad Lebron went off and said White House visiting used to be fun).

JWizmentality, I just support the position of president. Time will tell.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Having said that I'm wondering if I am well since I'm starting to come around on Trump.

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Sometimes, you just gotta drink yourself some Kool-Aid.

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I have faith in God. If Trump gets us all killed I'm not even worried about that.

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[DCZards]

I have faith in God. If Trump gets us all killed I'm not even worried about that.

Really. You're not concerned that the idiot bully in the WH might do or say something that puts the rest of us at risk? I am.

I have faith in God too. But my faith calls on me to speak out against a clown who, imo, is ruining and dividing our country.

[stilldropin20]

And we Jews have been around and we know anti-Semitic conspiracy bs when we hear it. Trust me - the "Rothschild banking cartel" conspiracy theory is straight out of the Nazi propaganda playbook. If you don't know, now you know.

No offense but i dont believe in modern religion or ancient religions. none of them. for me, every damn one of them is a bunch of hogwash meant to control the proletariat. and some people find them useful. good for them. and good for you. Thats my belief system and i have every right to it as you do yours.

So long as you respect my beliefs, i respect yours. and even when people dont respect my beliefs and still respect their right to believe whatever they want.

I believe the wealthy ruling class has been using everything: media, policy, religion, etc. to control the masses. so i dont care if the rothschilds are jewish or muslim. i see oligarchs like them in a separate category. A ton. they are real, ya know? I see them, the same I see the Kochs, the Bush's, The clintons, the apples, the googles, the facebooks, and yes even the trumps. They all represent the ruling class both ancient and new. they all run ****. everything. their money ultimately shapes the entire world's political landscape. In defense of the global ruling class, things could be much worse. so in that regard, i do believe that they have done at lease a somewhat responsible job if not a mostly responsible job.



And I've been around long enough to know when someone is crossing a disgusting line, peddling some rediculous racists labeling. Nothing Ive said deserves that type of BS. so if your sensibilities have been "triggered" I apologize. but pretty please lighten up lets just move on.

Read the goddamn link I posted, you ignorant jerk.

And shut the hell up. Being ignorant doesn't excuse you.

you mad bra? somebody doesn't think like you? try instead to embrace our diversity of person and thought for the sum is greater than the parts.

and for the record, you are not more intelligent than me. nor more educated. nor have more friends. nor better. in any way shape or form. So no. I wont shut up. You shut up!!! how bout dat!!

[JWizmentality]

Having said that I'm wondering if I am well since I'm starting to come around on Trump.

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I'll bite. Why?

I liked the UN speech.

(Totally disagree with his latest on protesting NFL players should be fired for kneeling. Also, I am glad Lebron went off and said White House visiting used to be fun).

JWizmentality, I just support the position of president. Time will tell.

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To each his own I guess. I long for the days of civility and common sense. Name calling is not tough or strength.

[gtn130]

Can I ask completely unrelated question. I am completely ignorant on the subject, so its a genuine question. Why everyone wants to replace Obamacare, what is so wrong with that bill?

It has Obama's name on it.

[stilldropin20]

The Democrats were only fillibuster proof for a grand total of 5 months. And a large portion of it came during the summer recess when Congress was on recess from July-August.

?? 5 months!!!! Thats a ton of time. Financial crisis just happened!! if ever there was a year to work 24/7, 7 days per week that was the year. Those crusty ass old republicans just worked through the summer of 2017. and i'm including trump. That old ass man just flat out worked hillary. started in 2015. campaign speech after campaign speech. often 2 per day in different parts of the country. Trump puts in at least 17-18 hours per day at 71 years old. I wont call it all good or productive like his latest small ball BS with Curry and the NFL. I dont know why he cant leave that BS alone. its not worth it to get involved. and its divisive. But its still work however bad. I'll give him credit on that. The man is a working machine.

So why didn't the dems get to work just the same that summer? of all summers? when you have the super majority, house and executive: you are suppose to govern the **** out of congress. it was the will of the people for gods sake. Problem is they didn't really have anything of actual substance then just like they dont have anything of actual substance now. So they pieced together parts of clinton care, romney care and sprinkled on some government subsidies to insurance companies(leaning it towards single payer) and born of it was Obamacare. They just threw that thing together, and frankly wasted valuable time and political capital.

But one good thing did come of it for the left. Born of it was the idea of universal health care for all. Which I mostly support if not fully support depending on its costs and benefits. But yeah, the left got themselves another entitlement they cant afford and future generations will pay for. Thats how it stands right now. Once you give something to th eamerican people its almost impossible to take away. All thats said, its difficult to argue against universal healthcare.

My biggest issue with healthcare is that Americans are just unhealthy. the health "crazes" of the last 20 years are definitely helping but until Americans learn what an actual serving size is, and do cardio more often, and stretch, and yoga, and mental relaxation techniques to reduce stress, and do less drugs and drinking, we are going to continue to be UNhealthy as a whole population. I mean we have 50 years olds that have literally grown up on a rotation of cocopuffs, chefboyardee, macdonals, dominoes only to now eat olive garden and red lobster mixed in with a steak or 2 as adults. They are soooo far behind the 8 ball in terms of health just due to a lifetime diet alone and the rest of us have to pay for their medical bills!!!!!!!?????? That Doesn't seem right to me. But universal health care for everyone does seem right? Its a thorny issue. because the real issue is that Macdonals, cocopuffs, and all the other "pushers" of those brands of poison should have never been allowed to peddle their poison on TV and other. The real issue 80 years ago 1 income fed the family. Now your average family needs 2 incomes(and i dont care if the male or female does the work or which stays at home). So 1 of mom or dad isn't home to do healthy meal prep(or keep a better eye on the kids). Instant "food" to the rescue. I mean it will satiate your appetite. But it will also slowly kill you, encourage lethargy which will also slowly kill you. Make you look and feel like crap. So depression sets in(wait, we got a pill for that-which is also poison). So the real issue is our entire "food" network. From the pesticides, to the steroids, to the antibiotics, to the extrememly inhumane treatment of animals, to the sourcing, to the processing, to the packaging and misleading advertising, and to the 2 incomes needed to pay the bills so that this kind of food is even necessary for some. Those are the real underlying issues. I'm a doctor and i have not seen a doctor in 25 years. My last appointment was for my exit physical in the US Navy. I had another appt 5 years before that at 17. Before that I had maybe 10 more doctors appts. in my entire life. ive taken antibiotics about 8 different times in my entire life. So in my entire life Ive spent about $1000.00 on my actual health care. But i grew up n real food. from our garden. ate fruits and veggies every single day. My mom jarred our own preserved and froze them. we bought are beef directly from a friend that owned a farm. and froze it. then defrosted it. I played every single sport that existed. never played a single video game in my life. I challenged myself and had successes and failures which i learned from. This all combined into and inner peace and active and healthy life style which all lead to natural endorphine release and happiness and confidence which leads to more friends and always having something fun to do. i dont need no damn doctor. and neither do you!!!!! and I'm a frickin doctor!!!!!!!!!! get it???? I'm an expert on this.

So buried in all this bull crap of "healthcare" is that the american public should and could be much healthier and happier. also buried in this crap is that health care costs are exhorbitant because corporate entities have been allowed to enter the field and make money off of these poorly nourished, yet overfed, and under exercised american public. Its a damn viscous cycle of ineptitude proportions commited by the EPA and FDA. All so that big business could make more money off of americans being sick. Now that we are "sick." healthcare for everyone!!!!!

radical change is needed!!!!!!

[stilldropin20]

Having said that I'm wondering if I am well since I'm starting to come around on Trump.

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Sometimes, you just gotta drink yourself some Kool-Aid.

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that was worth reposting!!! lol i may have even seen it before. still made me laugh my ass off.

[Wizardspride]

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[stilldropin20]

I have faith in God. If Trump gets us all killed I'm not even worried about that.

Really. You're not concerned that the idiot bully in the WH might do or say something that puts the rest of us at risk? I am.

I have faith in God too. But my faith calls on me to speak out against a clown who, imo, is ruining and dividing our country.

strictly in regards to trumps latest NFL rant and the whole take a knee during the national anthem. Maybe? just maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe? Colin kaepernick commited the first order action that is dividing the country? just speaking on this particular issue. and if indeed there is any real divide over this (seems like fauxrage on BOTH sides to me)...but if indeed this small ball bull crap is some real issue that the country needs to get all divided over, if thats the case I would say kaepernick taking the knee is the first order divisive action.

Now, if Colin kaepernick has an issue. And he certainly does. Black people have been treated horrifically in the past BY THE RULING CLASS who made the damn policies and created slavery and racism to begin so that they could line their pockets with cash, then I fully support Kapernick taking a(proverbial) knee on that. But not during the national anthem. It doesn't work. The other side just wont listen. So the issue is real. and it eserves real attention. Taking a knee only undermines the real issue though. the other side wont listen to you. But IMO, some serious legislation and reparations are owed to every single black family that has been here from before 1965. Some serious money needs to be paid out by the duponts, rockefellors, Morgans, pilsburies, kraft's, and on and on and on!! make them frickin pay!!! I'm all for it. 100Million percent!!

Slavery and racism was an early tool by the wealthy elite ruling class europeans that came here and created their own money pit. Just another a trick was pulled on the proletariat to create free labor. The overwhelmingly mass majority of Human beings do not inherently want to treat other human beings inhumanely. I dont believe that for one second. Now if you constrict the food supply enough, or the water supply, shelter supply, or sleep opportunity (all of which now boils down to the money supply more or less). you do that and all bets are off. But thats another "trick" of the ruling class. Serious Reparations are in order. But kapernick isn't talking about that. or anything really. just taking a knee and making us more divided with no real message behind it.

[Wizardspride]

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[cammac]

The Democrats were only fillibuster proof for a grand total of 5 months. And a large portion of it came during the summer recess when Congress was on recess from July-August.

?? 5 months!!!! Thats a ton of time. Financial crisis just happened!! if ever there was a year to work 24/7, 7 days per week that was the year. Those crusty ass old republicans just worked through the summer of 2017. and i'm including trump. That old ass man just flat out worked hillary. started in 2015. campaign speech after campaign speech. often 2 per day in different parts of the country. Trump puts in at least 17-18 hours per day at 71 years old. I wont call it all good or productive like his latest small ball BS with Curry and the NFL. I dont know why he cant leave that BS alone. its not worth it to get involved. and its divisive. But its still work however bad. I'll give him credit on that. The man is a working machine.

So why didn't the dems get to work just the same that summer? of all summers? when you have the super majority, house and executive: you are suppose to govern the **** out of congress. it was the will of the people for gods sake. Problem is they didn't really have anything of actual substance then just like they dont have anything of actual substance now. So they pieced together parts of clinton care, romney care and sprinkled on some government subsidies to insurance companies(leaning it towards single payer) and born of it was Obamacare. They just threw that thing together, and frankly wasted valuable time and political capital.

But one good thing did come of it for the left. Born of it was the idea of universal health care for all. Which I mostly support if not fully support depending on its costs and benefits. But yeah, the left got themselves another entitlement they cant afford and future generations will pay for. Thats how it stands right now. Once you give something to th eamerican people its almost impossible to take away. All thats said, its difficult to argue against universal healthcare.

My biggest issue with healthcare is that Americans are just unhealthy. the health "crazes" of the last 20 years are definitely helping but until Americans learn what an actual serving size is, and do cardio more often, and stretch, and yoga, and mental relaxation techniques to reduce stress, and do less drugs and drinking, we are going to continue to be UNhealthy as a whole population. I mean we have 50 years olds that have literally grown up on a rotation of cocopuffs, chefboyardee, macdonals, dominoes only to now eat olive garden and red lobster mixed in with a steak or 2 as adults. They are soooo far behind the 8 ball in terms of health just due to a lifetime diet alone and the rest of us have to pay for their medical bills!!!!!!!?????? That Doesn't seem right to me. But universal health care for everyone does seem right? Its a thorny issue. because the real issue is that Macdonals, cocopuffs, and all the other "pushers" of those brands of poison should have never been allowed to peddle their poison on TV and other. The real issue 80 years ago 1 income fed the family. Now your average family needs 2 incomes(and i dont care if the male or female does the work or which stays at home). So 1 of mom or dad isn't home to do healthy meal prep(or keep a better eye on the kids). Instant "food" to the rescue. I mean it will satiate your appetite. But it will also slowly kill you, encourage lethargy which will also slowly kill you. Make you look and feel like crap. So depression sets in(wait, we got a pill for that-which is also poison). So the real issue is our entire "food" network. From the pesticides, to the steroids, to the antibiotics, to the extrememly inhumane treatment of animals, to the sourcing, to the processing, to the packaging and misleading advertising, and to the 2 incomes needed to pay the bills so that this kind of food is even necessary for some. Those are the real underlying issues. I'm a doctor and i have not seen a doctor in 25 years. My last appointment was for my exit physical in the US Navy. I had another appt 5 years before that at 17. Before that I had maybe 10 more doctors appts. in my entire life. ive taken antibiotics about 8 different times in my entire life. So in my entire life Ive spent about $1000.00 on my actual health care. But i grew up n real food. from our garden. ate fruits and veggies every single day. My mom jarred our own preserved and froze them. we bought are beef directly from a friend that owned a farm. and froze it. then defrosted it. I played every single sport that existed. never played a single video game in my life. I challenged myself and had successes and failures which i learned from. This all combined into and inner peace and active and healthy life style which all lead to natural endorphine release and happiness and confidence which leads to more friends and always having something fun to do. i dont need no damn doctor. and neither do you!!!!! and I'm a frickin doctor!!!!!!!!!! get it???? I'm an expert on this.

So buried in all this bull crap of "healthcare" is that the american public should and could be much healthier and happier. also buried in this crap is that health care costs are exhorbitant because corporate entities have been allowed to enter the field and make money off of these poorly nourished, yet overfed, and under exercised american public. Its a damn viscous cycle of ineptitude proportions commited by the EPA and FDA. All so that big business could make more money off of americans being sick. Now that we are "sick." healthcare for everyone!!!!!

radical change is needed!!!!!!

For a well educated man DDS your spelling is terrible especially with medical type words endorphin?
You are the one who said Obama was President in 2008 and did nothing about the crisis? Thank George W in 2008 why Obama did co-operate with the Republicans in helping to stabilize the economy and bail out GM and Chrysler it was a Republican problem. When it came to ACA he had hoped for bipartisan co-operation but in the end had to do it with the Democrats. For the remainder of his term all the Republican did was want repeal rather than improve.

[stilldropin20]

The Democrats were only fillibuster proof for a grand total of 5 months. And a large portion of it came during the summer recess when Congress was on recess from July-August.

?? 5 months!!!! Thats a ton of time. Financial crisis just happened!! if ever there was a year to work 24/7, 7 days per week that was the year. Those crusty ass old republicans just worked through the summer of 2017. and i'm including trump. That old ass man just flat out worked hillary. started in 2015. campaign speech after campaign speech. often 2 per day in different parts of the country. Trump puts in at least 17-18 hours per day at 71 years old. I wont call it all good or productive like his latest small ball BS with Curry and the NFL. I dont know why he cant leave that BS alone. its not worth it to get involved. and its divisive. But its still work however bad. I'll give him credit on that. The man is a working machine.

So why didn't the dems get to work just the same that summer? of all summers? when you have the super majority, house and executive: you are suppose to govern the **** out of congress. it was the will of the people for gods sake. Problem is they didn't really have anything of actual substance then just like they dont have anything of actual substance now. So they pieced together parts of clinton care, romney care and sprinkled on some government subsidies to insurance companies(leaning it towards single payer) and born of it was Obamacare. They just threw that thing together, and frankly wasted valuable time and political capital.

But one good thing did come of it for the left. Born of it was the idea of universal health care for all. Which I mostly support if not fully support depending on its costs and benefits. But yeah, the left got themselves another entitlement they cant afford and future generations will pay for. Thats how it stands right now. Once you give something to th eamerican people its almost impossible to take away. All thats said, its difficult to argue against universal healthcare.

My biggest issue with healthcare is that Americans are just unhealthy. the health "crazes" of the last 20 years are definitely helping but until Americans learn what an actual serving size is, and do cardio more often, and stretch, and yoga, and mental relaxation techniques to reduce stress, and do less drugs and drinking, we are going to continue to be UNhealthy as a whole population. I mean we have 50 years olds that have literally grown up on a rotation of cocopuffs, chefboyardee, macdonals, dominoes only to now eat olive garden and red lobster mixed in with a steak or 2 as adults. They are soooo far behind the 8 ball in terms of health just due to a lifetime diet alone and the rest of us have to pay for their medical bills!!!!!!!?????? That Doesn't seem right to me. But universal health care for everyone does seem right? Its a thorny issue. because the real issue is that Macdonals, cocopuffs, and all the other "pushers" of those brands of poison should have never been allowed to peddle their poison on TV and other. The real issue 80 years ago 1 income fed the family. Now your average family needs 2 incomes(and i dont care if the male or female does the work or which stays at home). So 1 of mom or dad isn't home to do healthy meal prep(or keep a better eye on the kids). Instant "food" to the rescue. I mean it will satiate your appetite. But it will also slowly kill you, encourage lethargy which will also slowly kill you. Make you look and feel like crap. So depression sets in(wait, we got a pill for that-which is also poison). So the real issue is our entire "food" network. From the pesticides, to the steroids, to the antibiotics, to the extrememly inhumane treatment of animals, to the sourcing, to the processing, to the packaging and misleading advertising, and to the 2 incomes needed to pay the bills so that this kind of food is even necessary for some. Those are the real underlying issues. I'm a doctor and i have not seen a doctor in 25 years. My last appointment was for my exit physical in the US Navy. I had another appt 5 years before that at 17. Before that I had maybe 10 more doctors appts. in my entire life. ive taken antibiotics about 8 different times in my entire life. So in my entire life Ive spent about $1000.00 on my actual health care. But i grew up n real food. from our garden. ate fruits and veggies every single day. My mom jarred our own preserved and froze them. we bought are beef directly from a friend that owned a farm. and froze it. then defrosted it. I played every single sport that existed. never played a single video game in my life. I challenged myself and had successes and failures which i learned from. This all combined into and inner peace and active and healthy life style which all lead to natural endorphine release and happiness and confidence which leads to more friends and always having something fun to do. i dont need no damn doctor. and neither do you!!!!! and I'm a frickin doctor!!!!!!!!!! get it???? I'm an expert on this.

So buried in all this bull crap of "healthcare" is that the american public should and could be much healthier and happier. also buried in this crap is that health care costs are exhorbitant because corporate entities have been allowed to enter the field and make money off of these poorly nourished, yet overfed, and under exercised american public. Its a damn viscous cycle of ineptitude proportions commited by the EPA and FDA. All so that big business could make more money off of americans being sick. Now that we are "sick." healthcare for everyone!!!!!

radical change is needed!!!!!!

For a well educated man DDS your spelling is terrible especially with medical type words endorphin?
You are the one who said Obama was President in 2008 and did nothing about the crisis? Thank George W in 2008 why Obama did co-operate with the Republicans in helping to stabilize the economy and bail out GM and Chrysler it was a Republican problem. When it came to ACA he had hoped for bipartisan co-operation but in the end had to do it with the Democrats. For the remainder of his term all the Republican did was want repeal rather than improve.

come on. spelling grammar police? hit the e instead of the s. i'm quite sure i will misspell so much more going forward.

Look, i voted for Obama. I fully endorsed the ACA at the time just cuz I supported Obama. But the banking crisis just happened and the new administration was brought in at the end of 2008 to ease the transition becuase they knew the Obama admin would be saddled with it going forward and then from jan 2009 on they had the entire congress, more than a fist full of political capital, and the will of the entire US behind him. ON top of that Obama is a genius. and he was connected via the Penny Pritzker. They should have dug in and made radical changes.

The bail outs and economic stimulus stuff was rammed through congress in weeks. everyone understood the dire situation.

have you guys ever asked yourselves? how was it that all the big and small bank were about to collapse to the tune of a $700 Billion tarp injection? yet within less than 1 year all these bank repaid the US Government!!!????? How dafuq dey git all dis money back so quick, bruh???? Seriously!! Complete and utter collapse 8 months prior. repaying hundreds of billions just a few short months later!!! How could they get out from under a complete and utter meltdown and collapse and into complete repayment so quickly!!??? How dafuq!!??

The answer is because Obama (and Bush to some extent) didn't eat enough of their pie along the way. Dems and Obama should have completely rewritten the protection bankruptcy laws first, so they couldn't run into BK, then went after more of their pie. the american people would have supported it in those early months. that should have been obama's legacy. he blew it. as did Bush. Both blew it. and i wouldn't care if he seized and nationalized the banks!! In fact i wanted him to do just that. Would have been beautiful thing. stabilized them, and then sold them back to the public with a complete overhaul of banking legislature so as to keep credit markets flush with cash to encourage free and flowing exchanges of goods and services. I would have put Obama on rushmore. Heck, i would have chiseled Obama's face over all 4 already on rushmore. Instead we got a weak ACA. healthcare for everyone!!well almost. people like me dont even want that crap cuz i dont go to the doctor save something catastrophic. banking meldown!!!??? dont worry, healthcare for everyone!!! where's my american flag? ah there it is!! Yeah america!!

[CobraCommander]

Having said that I'm wondering if I am well since I'm starting to come around on Trump.

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I'll bite. Why?

I liked the UN speech.

(Totally disagree with his latest on protesting NFL players should be fired for kneeling. Also, I am glad Lebron went off and said White House visiting used to be fun).

JWizmentality, I just support the position of president. Time will tell.

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Yeah you might be ill- also keep in mind he didnt write that speech. I know most people dont write thier own speeches but you can tell trump doesnt share these views by the way he tweets and responds when questioned on specifics...
We do not expect diverse countries to share the same cultures, traditions, or even systems of government, but we do expect all nations to uphold these two core sovereign duties, to respect the interests of their own people and the rights of every other sovereign nation.
How can he say that while asking that people stop protesting for human rights because it upsets or inconveniences those watching football to see people kneeling. Trump would have ordered MLK shot if he thinks kneeling is an outrageous act of disrespect to the flag.

I will say this...i do like that the speech writers and trump delivered on condemning Iran, Venezuela's new dictator and call out North Korea. I also thought it was interesting to hear him say essentially we not gonna foot the bill for the UN anymore. We are 1 or 193 nations but giving 22% of the budget. That doesnt seem quite fair to me. I like the way he called out socialism as a failed ideology...even tho the repeal and replace is furthering the socialist belief if the distribution of wealth and that the government takes care of its citizens...even if they cant take care of themselves.

But he keeps coming across childish when he takes shots at Obama and Bush in a speech to the UN. Sounds like a clown when he calls Kim RocketMan.

While talking tough about nations and sovereignty he was soft on Russia on invading thier neighbors...seriously that just happened and is as evil as anything Iran or NK did...and he avoiding discussing China and Tibet or China and Hong Kong...which is a thing. A piece of paper signed a lot time ago doesnt make Hong Kong china to people born in free Hong Kong....either way not the worse speech has delivered in the last two weeks. But warming up on him when he is sounding more and more like a racist is tough for me to understand. I dont see how kneeling gets you called a SOB when tiki torches and walking with assault weapons in front of a synagogue in a menacing way doesnt stir some stronger language out of trump...

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I have faith in God. If Trump gets us all killed I'm not even worried about that.

Really. You're not concerned that the idiot bully in the WH might do or say something that puts the rest of us at risk? I am.

I have faith in God too. But my faith calls on me to speak out against a clown who, imo, is ruining and dividing our country.

Let's say we agree that he is an idiot bully.

Concerned? Of course I am!

Worried? No. This, too, shall pass.

Remember that there are checks and balances in the political process, and the president is not a dictator. He can only clown so much before they put him in check.

I believe the civil unrest and all the turmoil in this country with regard to Black lives matter and people kneeling or not and Republicans and Democrats and liberals and all that it's going to boil over Trump or no Trump...

Personally, I don't think he's going to make it. I won't elaborate but I just don't think he's going to last too long.

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[CobraCommander]

?? 5 months!!!! Thats a ton of time. Financial crisis just happened!! if ever there was a year to work 24/7, 7 days per week that was the year. Those crusty ass old republicans just worked through the summer of 2017. and i'm including trump. That old ass man just flat out worked hillary. started in 2015. campaign speech after campaign speech. often 2 per day in different parts of the country. Trump puts in at least 17-18 hours per day at 71 years old. I wont call it all good or productive like his latest small ball BS with Curry and the NFL. I dont know why he cant leave that BS alone. its not worth it to get involved. and its divisive. But its still work however bad. I'll give him credit on that. The man is a working machine.

So why didn't the dems get to work just the same that summer? of all summers? when you have the super majority, house and executive: you are suppose to govern the **** out of congress. it was the will of the people for gods sake. Problem is they didn't really have anything of actual substance then just like they dont have anything of actual substance now. So they pieced together parts of clinton care, romney care and sprinkled on some government subsidies to insurance companies(leaning it towards single payer) and born of it was Obamacare. They just threw that thing together, and frankly wasted valuable time and political capital.

But one good thing did come of it for the left. Born of it was the idea of universal health care for all. Which I mostly support if not fully support depending on its costs and benefits. But yeah, the left got themselves another entitlement they cant afford and future generations will pay for. Thats how it stands right now. Once you give something to th eamerican people its almost impossible to take away. All thats said, its difficult to argue against universal healthcare.

My biggest issue with healthcare is that Americans are just unhealthy. the health "crazes" of the last 20 years are definitely helping but until Americans learn what an actual serving size is, and do cardio more often, and stretch, and yoga, and mental relaxation techniques to reduce stress, and do less drugs and drinking, we are going to continue to be UNhealthy as a whole population. I mean we have 50 years olds that have literally grown up on a rotation of cocopuffs, chefboyardee, macdonals, dominoes only to now eat olive garden and red lobster mixed in with a steak or 2 as adults. They are soooo far behind the 8 ball in terms of health just due to a lifetime diet alone and the rest of us have to pay for their medical bills!!!!!!!?????? That Doesn't seem right to me. But universal health care for everyone does seem right? Its a thorny issue. because the real issue is that Macdonals, cocopuffs, and all the other "pushers" of those brands of poison should have never been allowed to peddle their poison on TV and other. The real issue 80 years ago 1 income fed the family. Now your average family needs 2 incomes(and i dont care if the male or female does the work or which stays at home). So 1 of mom or dad isn't home to do healthy meal prep(or keep a better eye on the kids). Instant "food" to the rescue. I mean it will satiate your appetite. But it will also slowly kill you, encourage lethargy which will also slowly kill you. Make you look and feel like crap. So depression sets in(wait, we got a pill for that-which is also poison). So the real issue is our entire "food" network. From the pesticides, to the steroids, to the antibiotics, to the extrememly inhumane treatment of animals, to the sourcing, to the processing, to the packaging and misleading advertising, and to the 2 incomes needed to pay the bills so that this kind of food is even necessary for some. Those are the real underlying issues. I'm a doctor and i have not seen a doctor in 25 years. My last appointment was for my exit physical in the US Navy. I had another appt 5 years before that at 17. Before that I had maybe 10 more doctors appts. in my entire life. ive taken antibiotics about 8 different times in my entire life. So in my entire life Ive spent about $1000.00 on my actual health care. But i grew up n real food. from our garden. ate fruits and veggies every single day. My mom jarred our own preserved and froze them. we bought are beef directly from a friend that owned a farm. and froze it. then defrosted it. I played every single sport that existed. never played a single video game in my life. I challenged myself and had successes and failures which i learned from. This all combined into and inner peace and active and healthy life style which all lead to natural endorphine release and happiness and confidence which leads to more friends and always having something fun to do. i dont need no damn doctor. and neither do you!!!!! and I'm a frickin doctor!!!!!!!!!! get it???? I'm an expert on this.

So buried in all this bull crap of "healthcare" is that the american public should and could be much healthier and happier. also buried in this crap is that health care costs are exhorbitant because corporate entities have been allowed to enter the field and make money off of these poorly nourished, yet overfed, and under exercised american public. Its a damn viscous cycle of ineptitude proportions commited by the EPA and FDA. All so that big business could make more money off of americans being sick. Now that we are "sick." healthcare for everyone!!!!!

radical change is needed!!!!!!

For a well educated man DDS your spelling is terrible especially with medical type words endorphin?
You are the one who said Obama was President in 2008 and did nothing about the crisis? Thank George W in 2008 why Obama did co-operate with the Republicans in helping to stabilize the economy and bail out GM and Chrysler it was a Republican problem. When it came to ACA he had hoped for bipartisan co-operation but in the end had to do it with the Democrats. For the remainder of his term all the Republican did was want repeal rather than improve.

come on. spelling grammar police? hit the e instead of the s. i'm quite sure i will misspell so much more going forward.

Look, i voted for Obama. I fully endorsed the ACA at the time just cuz I supported Obama. But the banking crisis just happened and the new administration was brought in at the end of 2008 to ease the transition becuase they knew the Obama admin would be saddled with it going forward and then from jan 2009 on they had the entire congress, more than a fist full of political capital, and the will of the entire US behind him. ON top of that Obama is a genius. and he was connected via the Penny Pritzker. They should have dug in and made radical changes.

The bail outs and economic stimulus stuff was rammed through congress in weeks. everyone understood the dire situation.

have you guys ever asked yourselves? how was it that all the big and small bank were about to collapse to the tune of a $700 Billion tarp injection? yet within less than 1 year all these bank repaid the US Government!!!????? How dafuq dey git all dis money back so quick, bruh???? Seriously!! Complete and utter collapse 8 months prior. repaying hundreds of billions just a few short months later!!! How could they get out from under a complete and utter meltdown and collapse and into complete repayment so quickly!!??? How dafuq!!??

The answer is because Obama (and Bush to some extent) didn't eat enough of their pie along the way. Dems and Obama should have completely rewritten the protection bankruptcy laws first, so they couldn't run into BK, then went after more of their pie. the american people would have supported it in those early months. that should have been obama's legacy. he blew it. as did Bush. Both blew it. and i wouldn't care if he seized and nationalized the banks!! In fact i wanted him to do just that. Would have been beautiful thing. stabilized them, and then sold them back to the public with a complete overhaul of banking legislature so as to keep credit markets flush with cash to encourage free and flowing exchanges of goods and services. I would have put Obama on rushmore. Heck, i would have chiseled Obama's face over all 4 already on rushmore. Instead we got a weak ACA. healthcare for everyone!!well almost. people like me dont even want that crap cuz i dont go to the doctor save something catastrophic. banking meldown!!!??? dont worry, healthcare for everyone!!! where's my american flag? ah there it is!! Yeah america!!

I was with you tilllllll you nationalized banks and I was like there you go getting all Bernie on me again

You right about paying everyone back so quick. It's like I didnt have any money then you loaned me 10 dollars...then a year later i got a Lamborghini and paid you back in the same week. Something didn't add up.