Social Injustice

[NuggetsWY]

Nuggets are planning a protest - they have not announced what format it will be in.
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/09/25/denver-nuggets-protest-social-injustice/

I'm one that hopes they don't disrespect the National Anthem - I hate that protest.
Other than that, I don't mind if they protest social injustice.
I will also point out however that as long as sports leagues allow players to play after they are convicted of domestic violence or assault in any form, then their protest seems hollow in my opinion.

Class Nuggets - please!

[skywalker33]

Love how these MILLIONAIRES support social injustice by kneeling, yet that's all most of them want to do. There are better ways to address it than by offending the vets who create their opportunities to PLAY A GAME for a living which affords them such lavish lifestyles.

[Powder Blue]

Love how these MILLIONAIRES support social injustice by kneeling, yet that's all most of them want to do. There are better ways to address it than by offending the vets who create their opportunities to PLAY A GAME for a living which affords them such lavish lifestyles.

Are we sure we want to get this going in here?

I'm a Vet and a minority. I served this country so that we all maintained the right to peacefully protest...amongst other things. Players taking a knee doesn't offend me one bit, the stuff 45 says is MUCH more offensive. It's also more offending when that "offending vets" argument is used by those that didn't serve. I'm sure some vets are offended but we all aren't so it's not really a valid argument to make.

Does everyone in the arena, in the parking lot, at the bar or at home pay respect to the national anthem, do they all stop what they're doing and stand with their cap removed and hand over heart? No.

It's a fair point to say there are better ways to protest than taking a knee during the anthem....but there are also better ways to protest than waving around the Nazi and Confederate flag and marching around with tiki torches yelling vile things. Funny how 45 didn't take a big issue with them.

You call for class and talk about these Millionaires with a lavish lifestyle. What about the guy tweeting and calling them SOB's. He's an entitled BILLIONAIRE with no class and all he does is stir people up talking about how bad this country is and how he thinks he'll make it great again. He's lived a lavish lifestyle his whole life, what gives him the right to trash the way this country has been run prior to him taking office?

Do I want the Nuggets to kneel? No...Do I want them to attempt some other form of protest on the court? Not necessarily...but they have the right to do so....and you all have the right to dislike it, that's what this country is about. I wish he'd stick his nose in other more important matters and leave sports alone so we don't have to have these kinds of discussions.

[SoCalNuggsFan]

Love how these MILLIONAIRES support social injustice by kneeling, yet that's all most of them want to do. There are better ways to address it than by offending the vets who create their opportunities to PLAY A GAME for a living which affords them such lavish lifestyles.

Are we sure we want to get this going in here?

I'm a Vet and a minority. I served this country so that we all maintained the right to peacefully protest...amongst other things. Players taking a knee doesn't offend me one bit, the stuff 45 says is MUCH more offensive. It's also more offending when that "offending vets" argument is used by those that didn't serve. I'm sure some vets are offended but we all aren't so it's not really a valid argument to make.

Does everyone in the arena, in the parking lot, at the bar or at home pay respect to the national anthem, do they all stop what they're doing and stand with their cap removed and hand over heart? No.

It's a fair point to say there are better ways to protest than taking a knee during the anthem....but there are also better ways to protest than waving around the Nazi and Confederate flag and marching around with tiki torches yelling vile things. Funny how 45 didn't take a big issue with them.

You call for class and talk about these Millionaires with a lavish lifestyle. What about the guy tweeting and calling them SOB's. He's an entitled BILLIONAIRE with no class and all he does is stir people up talking about how bad this country is and how he thinks he'll make it great again. He's lived a lavish lifestyle his whole life, what gives him the right to trash the way this country has been run prior to him taking office?

Do I want the Nuggets to kneel? No...Do I want them to attempt some other form of protest on the court? Not necessarily...but they have the right to do so....and you all have the right to dislike it, that's what this country is about. I wish he'd stick his nose in other more important matters and leave sports alone so we don't have to have these kinds of discussions.

Well said man. It really bothers me when people ignore the issues that these guys are trying to bring to light and instead try to move the argument to how they're disrespecting veterans.

I've seen probably hundreds of vets on twitter, black, white, conservative, liberal, say that whether or not they agree with the protests, they fought to defend the right of these people to use the platform that they have to try to create positive change.

[DaFan334]

Not sure we want to go down this road here but here are my two cents.

I think people need to really move on from how these people are protesting, and talk about the real reason that they are protesting. Deflecting from the issues is making the protests kind of meaningless and shows that one side really doesn't care or is completely ignorant to the issue (which is a huge part of the issue). Its also clearly not helping correct the issues or stop pulling this country apart.

[U hova]

I don't think the anthem means much to half the team to begin with.

[The Rebel]

I lost all respect for Kapernick, not when he took a knee, but when he was asked why he could not give a reason. Now this has turned into a giant pissing match and both sides are going about it the wrong way. Just like every other issue in this country people have stopped talking about finding solutions and are more focused on proving their point, while nothing really changes. Everybody needs to get over themselves and start having real conversations.

[NuggetsWY]

Yup, people have lost sight of the issue because of how the protest is being done.
I really liked how the Dallas Cowboys took a knee as a team and then stood for the National Anthem. That pointed at the original issue and honored our great country.

[SoCalNuggsFan]

I lost all respect for Kapernick, not when he took a knee, but when he was asked why he could not give a reason. Now this has turned into a giant pissing match and both sides are going about it the wrong way. Just like every other issue in this country people have stopped talking about finding solutions and are more focused on proving their point, while nothing really changes. Everybody needs to get over themselves and start having real conversations.

Everyone knows why kaepernick knelt and he's given millions of dollars and tons of his time to the causes he's supporting

[kololoco]

Love how these MILLIONAIRES support social injustice by kneeling, yet that's all most of them want to do. There are better ways to address it than by offending the vets who create their opportunities to PLAY A GAME for a living which affords them such lavish lifestyles.

US is an Empire. It has not been in a just war since 1945. The vets are not offended by kneeling and they are not creating opportunities to PLAY A GAME. They are protecting interests and dying for a select few who own the country (military industrial complex, oil industry, banks, etc.). They think they are protceting the country, and most of the soldiers are good people who have been used by a vile system, but non the less they wee used for the wrong purposes.

[NuggetsWY]

Love how these MILLIONAIRES support social injustice by kneeling, yet that's all most of them want to do. There are better ways to address it than by offending the vets who create their opportunities to PLAY A GAME for a living which affords them such lavish lifestyles.

US is an Empire. It has not been in a just war since 1945. The vets are not offended by kneeling and they are not creating opportunities to PLAY A GAME. They are protecting interests and dying for a select few who own the country (military industrial complex, oil industry, banks, etc.). They think they are protceting the country, and most of the soldiers are good people who have been used by a vile system, but non the less they wee used for the wrong purposes.

Here's one vet that says you are wrong!

[The Rebel]

I lost all respect for Kapernick, not when he took a knee, but when he was asked why he could not give a reason. Now this has turned into a giant pissing match and both sides are going about it the wrong way. Just like every other issue in this country people have stopped talking about finding solutions and are more focused on proving their point, while nothing really changes. Everybody needs to get over themselves and start having real conversations.

Everyone knows why kaepernick knelt and he's given millions of dollars and tons of his time to the causes he's supporting

Sure he was kneeling for social injustice, except last year when he was asked what that meant to him he could not answer the question. He started kneeling as he was losing his job and wanted to become a martyr, no other way to explain it.

[MidMountain]

Since when is kneeling disrespectful? Kneeling players are not disrespecting injured opponents, they are paying respect to them. People often kneel when proposing marriage. It was common for people to kneel in front of kings and queens, not to be disrespectful, but to pay respect.

[NuggetsWY]

Since when is kneeling disrespectful? Kneeling players are not disrespecting injured opponents, they are paying respect to them. People often kneel when proposing marriage. It was common for people to kneel in front of kings and queens, not to be disrespectful, but to pay respect.

You are correct - kneeling is the issue today, a childish one. People are being told "You can't kneel" so more people are kneeling. The problem is, America has forgotten how all this childishness started. It started as a disrespect of the flag and America because black people are not treated fairly. When people objected to one man's actions, he apologized and continued. Then it became about kneeling. It has become a bunch of overpaid athletes saying, "No one can tell us what we can or can not do."

Let's work on domestic violence. If athletes ban athletes that commit domestic violence, that makes a statement.
Let's work on social injustice. If athletes get in barroom brawls, it should cost them significantly.
That is athletes setting an example. Then we encourage the rest of society to follow their example.
When their is social injustice, let us find a way to dispense justice regardless of how many loopholes the high-priced lawyers can find. Let's start applying common sense in our judicial system.

Then again, I'm a dreamer and don't really expect any of that because the majority of Americans are extremely self-centered.

[MidMountain]

Since when is kneeling disrespectful? Kneeling players are not disrespecting injured opponents, they are paying respect to them. People often kneel when proposing marriage. It was common for people to kneel in front of kings and queens, not to be disrespectful, but to pay respect.

You are correct - kneeling is the issue today, a childish one. People are being told "You can't kneel" so more people are kneeling. The problem is, America has forgotten how all this childishness started. It started as a disrespect of the flag and America because black people are not treated fairly. When people objected to one man's actions, he apologized and continued. Then it became about kneeling. It has become a bunch of overpaid athletes saying, "No one can tell us what we can or can not do."

Let's work on domestic violence. If athletes ban athletes that commit domestic violence, that makes a statement.
Let's work on social injustice. If athletes get in barroom brawls, it should cost them significantly.
That is athletes setting an example. Then we encourage the rest of society to follow their example.
When their is social injustice, let us find a way to dispense justice regardless of how many loopholes the high-priced lawyers can find. Let's start applying common sense in our judicial system.

Then again, I'm a dreamer and don't really expect any of that because the majority of Americans are extremely self-centered.

I still don't get how kneeling during the anthem is "disrespect of the flag and America".

[NuggetsWY]

Since when is kneeling disrespectful? Kneeling players are not disrespecting injured opponents, they are paying respect to them. People often kneel when proposing marriage. It was common for people to kneel in front of kings and queens, not to be disrespectful, but to pay respect.

You are correct - kneeling is the issue today, a childish one. People are being told "You can't kneel" so more people are kneeling. The problem is, America has forgotten how all this childishness started. It started as a disrespect of the flag and America because black people are not treated fairly. When people objected to one man's actions, he apologized and continued. Then it became about kneeling. It has become a bunch of overpaid athletes saying, "No one can tell us what we can or can not do."

Let's work on domestic violence. If athletes ban athletes that commit domestic violence, that makes a statement.
Let's work on social injustice. If athletes get in barroom brawls, it should cost them significantly.
That is athletes setting an example. Then we encourage the rest of society to follow their example.
When their is social injustice, let us find a way to dispense justice regardless of how many loopholes the high-priced lawyers can find. Let's start applying common sense in our judicial system.

Then again, I'm a dreamer and don't really expect any of that because the majority of Americans are extremely self-centered.

I still don't get how kneeling during the anthem is "disrespect of the flag and America".

Then you did not pay attention when all this started. It was stated as disrespect because of inequalities of law enforcement towards blacks. The disrespect was aimed at the national anthem/the United States/etc.