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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1561 » by ai2embiid » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:04 am

i think less buzz is actually good for fultz. it allows him to find his role and adjust to the nba. also there's going to be more than enough media attention every time lonzo/tatum have a good game and markelle does not
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1562 » by Simmons25 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:38 am

Kolkmania wrote:My goodness, this scares me to death.

Read on Twitter


What in god's name was that. :o

That looked like the shot of a guy who was scared to shoot it and tried to guide it into the basket.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1563 » by europeanfan » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:45 am

Don't understand why it needed to change that much. Hopefully these tweeks dont mess with his in-game shooting.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1564 » by LloydFree » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:54 am

ai2embiid wrote:i think less buzz is actually good for fultz. it allows him to find his role and adjust to the nba. also there's going to be more than enough media attention every time lonzo/tatum have a good game and markelle does not

Fultz doesn't know how fortunate he is to have been drafted into this situation. Ben Simmons and Embiid will get all of the attention and his struggles will go largely unnoticed. I don't think Tatum will get much attention in Boston. I don't think he'll get enough court time to make a difference. Lonzo Ball will have a lot of terrible games and some great games, so he'll get more attention either way. But he also doesn't have better players on his team, to hide behind, so he should get all of the attention.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1565 » by ivysixer2000 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:03 pm

LloydFree wrote:
ai2embiid wrote:i think less buzz is actually good for fultz. it allows him to find his role and adjust to the nba. also there's going to be more than enough media attention every time lonzo/tatum have a good game and markelle does not

Fultz doesn't know how fortunate he is to have been drafted into this situation. Ben Simmons and Embiid will get all of the attention and his struggles will go largely unnoticed. I don't think Tatum will get much attention in Boston. I don't think he'll get enough court time to make a difference. Lonzo Ball will have a lot of terrible games and some great games, so he'll get more attention either way. But he also doesn't have better players on his team, to hide behind, so he should get all of the attention.


The narrative of Fultz sucking is kinda getting old though. We don't even know right now if Embiid can show up. There are questions about Ben, but he should be fine. There have been no questions about Fultz showing up to a game yet at all.

What if January 1st your looking at Fultz and thats it?? Guess what, he is the most likely to play 82 games.....and I'm kinda tired of the Fultz hate at this point, cause he deserves alot more than the garbage posted about him in this thread.
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Post#1566 » by Unbreakable99 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:51 pm

Fultz’s high school coach said he was a good free throw shooter in high school so we will see if his 65% was just an aberration at Washington. The clips I see of Fultz in scrimmage do give me even more cause for concern to how good he will be. I really hope I’m wrong but I see things that make me nervous.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1567 » by LloydFree » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:09 pm

ivysixer2000 wrote:
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ai2embiid wrote:i think less buzz is actually good for fultz. it allows him to find his role and adjust to the nba. also there's going to be more than enough media attention every time lonzo/tatum have a good game and markelle does not

Fultz doesn't know how fortunate he is to have been drafted into this situation. Ben Simmons and Embiid will get all of the attention and his struggles will go largely unnoticed. I don't think Tatum will get much attention in Boston. I don't think he'll get enough court time to make a difference. Lonzo Ball will have a lot of terrible games and some great games, so he'll get more attention either way. But he also doesn't have better players on his team, to hide behind, so he should get all of the attention.


The narrative of Fultz sucking is kinda getting old though. We don't even know right now if Embiid can show up. There are questions about Ben, but he should be fine. There have been no questions about Fultz showing up to a game yet at all.

What if January 1st your looking at Fultz and thats it?? Guess what, he is the most likely to play 82 games.....and I'm kinda tired of the Fultz hate at this point, cause he deserves alot more than the garbage posted about him in this thread.


Stop making stuff up and being dramatic. There is not one post in this thread that says Fultz sucks. The most that has been said is that he will struggle as a rookie and that there were a couple players drafted behind him that were better talents. If someone reads that as "he sucks" that's their problem. This is a basketball board and this is a thread about Fultz. Nobody has said he sucks, but then again, there is going to be different opinions on the players. Get over it.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1568 » by Sixerscan » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:11 pm

Who knows what's going on with that clip. Could just be working on something by exaggerating it.

One thing you've gotta remember with summer league, and now these training camp videos, is that the purpose of participating in either isn't to do whatever is necessary to win the game. Its to tinker with different things to see what works, and to develop skills. Sometimes that results in doing something that seems wrong or awkward if you don't know the larger context.

If he's still doing it during an actual regular season game it's a different story. Regardless hopefully someone asks Brown about it.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1569 » by ivysixer2000 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:29 pm

LloydFree wrote:
ivysixer2000 wrote:
LloydFree wrote:Fultz doesn't know how fortunate he is to have been drafted into this situation. Ben Simmons and Embiid will get all of the attention and his struggles will go largely unnoticed. I don't think Tatum will get much attention in Boston. I don't think he'll get enough court time to make a difference. Lonzo Ball will have a lot of terrible games and some great games, so he'll get more attention either way. But he also doesn't have better players on his team, to hide behind, so he should get all of the attention.


The narrative of Fultz sucking is kinda getting old though. We don't even know right now if Embiid can show up. There are questions about Ben, but he should be fine. There have been no questions about Fultz showing up to a game yet at all.

What if January 1st your looking at Fultz and thats it?? Guess what, he is the most likely to play 82 games.....and I'm kinda tired of the Fultz hate at this point, cause he deserves alot more than the garbage posted about him in this thread.


Stop making stuff up and being dramatic. There is not one post in this thread that says Fultz sucks. The most that has been said is that he will struggle as a rookie and that there were a couple players drafted behind him that were better talents. If someone reads that as "he sucks" that's their problem. This is a basketball board and this is a thread about Fultz. Nobody has said he sucks, but then again, there is going to be different opinions on the players. Get over it.


OK if 'sucking' is too strong of a word for you, how about people saying he isn't as good as Ball, Jackson, or whoever else someone wants to pick. Neither one of them can shoot or are a better fit for this team.

Get over it.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1570 » by Negrodamus » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:31 pm

ivysixer2000 wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
ivysixer2000 wrote:
The narrative of Fultz sucking is kinda getting old though. We don't even know right now if Embiid can show up. There are questions about Ben, but he should be fine. There have been no questions about Fultz showing up to a game yet at all.

What if January 1st your looking at Fultz and thats it?? Guess what, he is the most likely to play 82 games.....and I'm kinda tired of the Fultz hate at this point, cause he deserves alot more than the garbage posted about him in this thread.


Stop making stuff up and being dramatic. There is not one post in this thread that says Fultz sucks. The most that has been said is that he will struggle as a rookie and that there were a couple players drafted behind him that were better talents. If someone reads that as "he sucks" that's their problem. This is a basketball board and this is a thread about Fultz. Nobody has said he sucks, but then again, there is going to be different opinions on the players. Get over it.


OK if sucking is too strong of a word for you, how about people saying he isn't as good as Ball, Jackson, or whoever else someone wants to pick. Neither one of them can shoot or are a better fit for this team.

Get over it.


I read this as "can you please stop having a rational opinion on Markelle Fultz?"

Whether you like him or hate him, there are questions as to whether he was the best player at the top of this draft.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1571 » by ivysixer2000 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:37 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
ivysixer2000 wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
Stop making stuff up and being dramatic. There is not one post in this thread that says Fultz sucks. The most that has been said is that he will struggle as a rookie and that there were a couple players drafted behind him that were better talents. If someone reads that as "he sucks" that's their problem. This is a basketball board and this is a thread about Fultz. Nobody has said he sucks, but then again, there is going to be different opinions on the players. Get over it.


OK if sucking is too strong of a word for you, how about people saying he isn't as good as Ball, Jackson, or whoever else someone wants to pick. Neither one of them can shoot or are a better fit for this team.

Get over it.


I read this as "can you please stop having a rational opinion on Markelle Fultz?"

Whether you like him or hate him, there are questions as to whether he was the best player at the top of this draft.


Questioning whether he is the best player from this draft a decade from now, of course. This draft was that close.

The best player for this team right now, as he can actually shoot, nah not really.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1572 » by Chris76 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:37 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:Fultz’s high school coach said he was a good free throw shooter in high school so we will see if his 65% was just an aberration at Washington. The clips I see of Fultz in scrimmage do give me even more cause for concern to how good he will be. I really hope I’m wrong but I see things that make me nervous.


Fultz does have things to improve, but his shooting and play making are already very good. His floor is very high.

He has an opportunity to play with 2 potential stars and they fit really well. His defense should be very important.

He has 2 different releases, a 3pt shot release where he starts around eye level and a pull up shot where he extends over defenders. He has alot of options when shooting.

Hopefully, his ft shooting improves. He should get a lot of attempts. Glad Embiid is a good ft shooter, especially for a center.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1573 » by Negrodamus » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:41 pm

ivysixer2000 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
ivysixer2000 wrote:
OK if sucking is too strong of a word for you, how about people saying he isn't as good as Ball, Jackson, or whoever else someone wants to pick. Neither one of them can shoot or are a better fit for this team.

Get over it.


I read this as "can you please stop having a rational opinion on Markelle Fultz?"

Whether you like him or hate him, there are questions as to whether he was the best player at the top of this draft.


Questioning whether he is the best player from this draft a decade from now, of course. This draft was that close.

The best player for this team right now, as he can actually shoot, nah not really.


While I hate him as a player, Lonzo Ball shot similarly from 3 and much better at the rim. There are arguments to be made regardless of what you, or the team, was looking for.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1574 » by ivysixer2000 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:50 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
ivysixer2000 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
I read this as "can you please stop having a rational opinion on Markelle Fultz?"

Whether you like him or hate him, there are questions as to whether he was the best player at the top of this draft.


Questioning whether he is the best player from this draft a decade from now, of course. This draft was that close.

The best player for this team right now, as he can actually shoot, nah not really.


While I hate him as a player, Lonzo Ball shot similarly from 3 and much better at the rim. There are arguments to be made regardless of what you, or the team, was looking for.


While I like Ball as a prospect, we have had questions on who would run the point between Fultz or Simmons. If we had drafted Ball, how would that question go at that point....I mean Brown had said before he wanted Simmons at the point, now what.

So we make them both mad and they want out in a few years, as Ball would want to leave anyway cause his daddy said so. Then Ball and Simmons can't shoot, and in Ball's case its going to get bad with a defender on that left. I can see the debate, and I understand it, but from a franchise standpoint, I just don't see how it would make since for the Sixers.
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Post#1575 » by Unbreakable99 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:41 pm

ivysixer2000 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
ivysixer2000 wrote:
Questioning whether he is the best player from this draft a decade from now, of course. This draft was that close.

The best player for this team right now, as he can actually shoot, nah not really.


While I hate him as a player, Lonzo Ball shot similarly from 3 and much better at the rim. There are arguments to be made regardless of what you, or the team, was looking for.


While I like Ball as a prospect, we have had questions on who would run the point between Fultz or Simmons. If we had drafted Ball, how would that question go at that point....I mean Brown had said before he wanted Simmons at the point, now what.

So we make them both mad and they want out in a few years, as Ball would want to leave anyway cause his daddy said so. Then Ball and Simmons can't shoot, and in Ball's case its going to get bad with a defender on that left. I can see the debate, and I understand it, but from a franchise standpoint, I just don't see how it would make since for the Sixers.


There were and still are a lot of questions about Fultz. He seemed like he may be a better shooter but who knows. I’m not sold on his D. I wasn’t impressed with it in college or in Summer League. The thing that most concerned me was his lack of quickness and ability to separate from his defender. People swear to me he has above average athleticism and creates separation but I didn’t see it. To me he projects to an average NBA athlete similar to Jrue Holiday. Eh. He doesn’t seem quick enough to be able to guard guards. We will see soon enough though. We will see in a few days.

I don’t see what Fultz does better than Donovan Mitchell. Mitchell is the more complete player and plays both ends well.

I don’t think he’s as good as Ball.

DSJ is much more explosive and can create separation.

Fox is the most explosive player in the draft. If he gets a respectable jumper he may become the best player in the draft.

So four guards are close in talent and I can see all four being the better NBA player. I could see Fultz being the 5th best guard from this class and maybe lower.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1576 » by JojoSlimbiid » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:50 pm

And we're back to the same diarrhea as before.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1577 » by europeanfan » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:21 pm

Read on Twitter


Looks happy at least.
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Post#1578 » by Unbreakable99 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:43 pm

europeanfan wrote:
Read on Twitter


Looks happy at least.


That was pretty good but half of it was him talking about chic fil a. He’s going to get fat if he keeps eating like that. I like that TJ turned down the chic fil a and said he likes his body. TJ is disciplined. Fultz can’t keep eating that stuff. He needs to be like Okafor ahs eat better.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1579 » by Sixerscan » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:56 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
europeanfan wrote:
Read on Twitter


Looks happy at least.


That was pretty good but half of it was him talking about chic fil a. He’s going to get fat if he keeps eating like that. I like that TJ turned down the chic fil a and said he likes his body. TJ is disciplined. Fultz can’t keep eating that stuff. He needs to be like Okafor ahs eat better.


Have you ever considered chilling out.
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Post#1580 » by BullyKing » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:59 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
europeanfan wrote:
Read on Twitter


Looks happy at least.


That was pretty good but half of it was him talking about chic fil a. He’s going to get fat if he keeps eating like that. I like that TJ turned down the chic fil a and said he likes his body. TJ is disciplined. Fultz can’t keep eating that stuff. He needs to be like Okafor ahs eat better.


You act like when there is a promotional photo of him surrounded by a huge conference table full of Chik Fila that he actually eats everything on the table as soon as the photos are snapped. He's always loved Chik Fila and is not fat. You think it is suddenly going to make him fat now that most of his meals will be provided by the team's in-house chef and he's part of a professional training regimen?
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