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Post#21 » by kg01 » Tue Oct 3, 2017 1:31 pm

macd-gm wrote:Atlanta sports, after a very brief upswing, is facing some adversity. My fanship with the Braves disappeared when they took their ball and left the city. I don't have a favorable opinion of the new place on it's own either even if you ignore the location.

Now the Falcons are trying to make up for an historic super bowl collapse and are sputtering. Not to mention we have 2 billion dollar dome that is remarkably similar to the old dome and this is what the turnout looks like for the 3-0 falcons against the 2-1 bills:

I used to bristle at Atlanta being the worst sports town but i don't know. I don't blame the fans though. I blame the teams for not having a clue what fans want...or just not caring.


Get em, macd! Totally agree. Too long has the ineptness of our franchise's management been improperly assigning the blame of 'poor sports town' to the fans. The fans are great. These franchises have been run in a way that no city would blindly support them.

The Barves' shameful move has cursed the franchise. They clearly shat on the city for 2 seasons and hoped to contend in '17. Low and behold, they say contending wasn't in the cards so the panicked and added crap-a** vets before the season only to have it all blow up midseason. Now they're infighting is basically making the A$G look like Mister Rogers' neighborhood. Have fun with that, Barves. You deserve much worse.
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Post#22 » by macd-gm » Tue Oct 3, 2017 1:44 pm

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macd-gm wrote:Atlanta sports, after a very brief upswing, is facing some adversity. My fanship with the Braves disappeared when they took their ball and left the city. I don't have a favorable opinion of the new place on it's own either even if you ignore the location.

Now the Falcons are trying to make up for an historic super bowl collapse and are sputtering. Not to mention we have 2 billion dollar dome that is remarkably similar to the old dome and this is what the turnout looks like for the 3-0 falcons against the 2-1 bills:

I used to bristle at Atlanta being the worst sports town but i don't know. I don't blame the fans though. I blame the teams for not having a clue what fans want...or just not caring.


Get em, macd! Totally agree. Too long has the ineptness of our franchise's management been improperly assigning the blame of 'poor sports town' to the fans. The fans are great. These franchises have been run in a way that no city would blindly support them.

The Barves' shameful move has cursed the franchise. They clearly shat on the city for 2 seasons and hoped to contend in '17. Low and behold, they say contending wasn't in the cards so the panicked and added crap-a** vets before the season only to have it all blow up midseason. Now they're infighting is basically making the A$G look like Mister Rogers' neighborhood. Have fun with that, Barves. You deserve much worse.


And with all due respect, and remember i'm saying with all due respect, a lot of people who live in the city haven't been in Atlanta very long and when you build a brand new stadium with lots of bells and whistles everyone is like 'wow this is really cool i love new things'. Then in a few years when it's not new everyone laments, i wish we had something with tradition like wrigley or fenway.

It happened with Turner Field, Philips and the GA Dome.
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Post#23 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Oct 3, 2017 2:01 pm

kg01 wrote:The Barves' shameful move has cursed the franchise...Have fun with that, Barves. You deserve much worse.


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Post#24 » by kg01 » Tue Oct 3, 2017 2:03 pm

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kg01 wrote:
macd-gm wrote:Atlanta sports, after a very brief upswing, is facing some adversity. My fanship with the Braves disappeared when they took their ball and left the city. I don't have a favorable opinion of the new place on it's own either even if you ignore the location.

Now the Falcons are trying to make up for an historic super bowl collapse and are sputtering. Not to mention we have 2 billion dollar dome that is remarkably similar to the old dome and this is what the turnout looks like for the 3-0 falcons against the 2-1 bills:

I used to bristle at Atlanta being the worst sports town but i don't know. I don't blame the fans though. I blame the teams for not having a clue what fans want...or just not caring.


Get em, macd! Totally agree. Too long has the ineptness of our franchise's management been improperly assigning the blame of 'poor sports town' to the fans. The fans are great. These franchises have been run in a way that no city would blindly support them.

The Barves' shameful move has cursed the franchise. They clearly shat on the city for 2 seasons and hoped to contend in '17. Low and behold, they say contending wasn't in the cards so the panicked and added crap-a** vets before the season only to have it all blow up midseason. Now they're infighting is basically making the A$G look like Mister Rogers' neighborhood. Have fun with that, Barves. You deserve much worse.


And with all due respect, and remember i'm saying with all due respect, a lot of people who live in the city haven't been in Atlanta very long and when you build a brand new stadium with lots of bells and whistles everyone is like 'wow this is really cool i love new things'. Then in a few years when it's not new everyone laments, i wish we had something with tradition like wrigley or fenway.

It happened with Turner Field, Philips and the GA Dome.



"With all due respeck" is what you say right before you say something disrespeckful so I commend you. It's kinda like when you say, "Uh, I'm not tryna be mean but .... that shirt looks like a llama threw up on your chest." I mean, did you really have to say you're not tryna be mean?

The sad thing is the Barves were supposed to see that "ohh, shiny things" bump in attendance then the gradual fizzle out unless they actually won something. Unfortunately it really didn't materialize all that much. That fizzle sure materialized tho.

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Post#25 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Oct 3, 2017 2:05 pm

kg01 wrote:Too long has the ineptness of our franchise's management been improperly assigning the blame of 'poor sports town' to the fans. The fans are great. These franchises have been run in a way that no city would blindly support them.



There is indeed some truth to this. But I remember how hot of a ticket the Bravos were in 1992, 1995 and 1996.

But by 1998, we couldn't even sell out 1st round playoff games.

8 straight division titles
4 NL Pennants
1995 World Champs

And there were empty seats on nationally televised playoff games.

Even when our sports teams gave us a high level product, Atlanta fans became complacent. It happens a lot in this town. (See Falcons, 2017)
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Post#26 » by kg01 » Tue Oct 3, 2017 2:12 pm

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kg01 wrote:Too long has the ineptness of our franchise's management been improperly assigning the blame of 'poor sports town' to the fans. The fans are great. These franchises have been run in a way that no city would blindly support them.



There is indeed some truth to this. But I remember how hot of a ticket the Bravos were in 1992, 1995 and 1996.

But by 1998, we couldn't even sell out 1st round playoff games.

8 straight division titles
4 NL Pennants
1995 World Champs

And there were empty seats on nationally televised playoff games.

Even when our sports teams gave us a high level product, Atlanta fans became complacent. It happens a lot in this town. (See Falcons, 2017)


Oh no you di'n't .....

By that point, it appeared the Barves were content with just division titlin' themselves into the sunset. Meanwhile, other organizations were swinging for the proverbial fences. As a fan, is it not clear when a front office is simply content to be where they is? For better or worse, that is why the fan support stagnated. Not because Atlanta is a poor sports town.

See, what I did there. I grabbed you by the ear and circled you right back to where the blame lies .... management.

Oh and did you not see the empty seats in Yankee stadium the last time they were in the playoffs? It's not an Atlanta fan thang, it's a fan fan thang.

File this whole discussion under, 'don't you put that evil on me, ricky bobby'.
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Re: Hawks like the Braves? 

Post#27 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Oct 3, 2017 2:29 pm

kg01 wrote:Oh no you di'n't .....

File this whole discussion under, 'don't you put that evil on me, ricky bobby'.




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But 22 months removed [from] being a World Series team, it's hard to justify the apathy that had generated in the midst of the greatest stretch in Atlanta Sports History.
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Post#28 » by macd-gm » Tue Oct 3, 2017 4:12 pm

Geez. I don't want to agree with Kg again but it's the truth. Braves fans after 96 or 97 could see that we weren't really a title team. In fact, people make a big deal about how we 'fell short' all those years but the real truth is that we got beat by a better team every time. Maybe exceptions for Eric Gregg against the Marlins, and the outfield fly rule.

Now the 2017 Atlanta Falcons I agree with. It's pathetic that we're already seeing tons of empty seats but notice there arent' empty seats in teh upper level. It's typical Atlanta corporate sports bull. Companies just buy tickets and let them sit in a drawer somewhere. Dont' get me started on the Benz. Those 300 level seats are so high off the field I'd rather watch on tv.

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