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jonas_franchise wrote:I don't see JV as a goner at all as some suggest. FO has until the end of 2018/2019 season to get under the tax and who knows, maybe they dip into tax (we're only slightly over) if we can make a push in 2020.
vini_vidi_vici wrote:MU is a fraud.
Skeezo wrote:Happy, he resigned but this is not some steal or value deal as a lot of people are suggesting...
This is league going rate for a player of N.Powell's capability, period... Unless he completely broke-out this year, he was cruising to a full MLE offer, that's it... All the people using crappy deals like THJ, Crabbe, Bazemore etc. as comparables, wake-up the cap has realigned and decent 3/D wings players aren't 15m-18m players, they are 11-12m players which is was what I was saying a guy like DMC should have gotten 3 years ago.
C_Money wrote:
After the $800 million Scotiabank deal. They better pay the tax next year.
Raps in 4 wrote:That's a steal under the new cap. I have no idea why he didn't take his chances with RFA, he would have easily gotten way more.
Bull-E wrote:Question that begs to be asked: Can he find a full-time role beside Derozan or does he eventually become a T-Ross like trade chip?
Rapcity_11 wrote:Skeezo wrote:Happy, he resigned but this is not some steal or value deal as a lot of people are suggesting...
This is league going rate for a player of N.Powell's capability, period... Unless he completely broke-out this year, he was cruising to a full MLE offer, that's it... All the people using crappy deals like THJ, Crabbe, Bazemore etc. as comparables, wake-up the cap has realigned and decent 3/D wings players aren't 15m-18m players, they are 11-12m players which is was what I was saying a guy like DMC should have gotten 3 years ago.
He was cruising to an MLE offer......most likely. That's the key.
Next summer is going to be really interesting….
KCP, Bradley, Redick as UFA
Harris, Hood, Lavine, Smart as RFA
I bet one or more of those guys gets Hardaway’d by some team.
vini_vidi_vici wrote:MU is a fraud.
pingpongrac wrote:Skeezo wrote:Happy, he resigned but this is not some steal or value deal as a lot of people are suggesting...
This is league going rate for a player of N.Powell's capability, period... Unless he completely broke-out this year, he was cruising to a full MLE offer, that's it... All the people using crappy deals like THJ, Crabbe, Bazemore etc. as comparables, wake-up the cap has realigned and decent 3/D wings players aren't 15m-18m players, they are 11-12m players which is was what I was saying a guy like DMC should have gotten 3 years ago.
People are using those crappy deals as the benchmark because that is the going rate for 3+D fringe starters...and I think Powell is as good, if not better, than the players you listed - and we got him for ~10.5M/year rather than the ~18M/year that THJ, Crabbe and Bazemore are making.
Last year Powell played more than 20 minutes just 29 times. He averaged 14.8 PTS, 3.3 REB, 1.6 AST in 29MPG in those games while sporting a 49.7 FG% and 40.9 3FG%. This year he should get more consistent playtime because he's not fighting for minutes with Carroll+Ross and Carroll+Tucker. Even if Powell is nearing his peak, though, you're already looking at a guy who can give you above average defence and solid production as a 4th/5th option in the starting lineup or be a spark plug off the bench.
Skeezo wrote:pingpongrac wrote:Skeezo wrote:Happy, he resigned but this is not some steal or value deal as a lot of people are suggesting...
This is league going rate for a player of N.Powell's capability, period... Unless he completely broke-out this year, he was cruising to a full MLE offer, that's it... All the people using crappy deals like THJ, Crabbe, Bazemore etc. as comparables, wake-up the cap has realigned and decent 3/D wings players aren't 15m-18m players, they are 11-12m players which is was what I was saying a guy like DMC should have gotten 3 years ago.
People are using those crappy deals as the benchmark because that is the going rate for 3+D fringe starters...and I think Powell is as good, if not better, than the players you listed - and we got him for ~10.5M/year rather than the ~18M/year that THJ, Crabbe and Bazemore are making.
Last year Powell played more than 20 minutes just 29 times. He averaged 14.8 PTS, 3.3 REB, 1.6 AST in 29MPG in those games while sporting a 49.7 FG% and 40.9 3FG%. This year he should get more consistent playtime because he's not fighting for minutes with Carroll+Ross and Carroll+Tucker. Even if Powell is nearing his peak, though, you're already looking at a guy who can give you above average defence and solid production as a 4th/5th option in the starting lineup or be a spark plug off the bench.
It's not the going rate...
What did Ross get?
What did Richardson get?
What did Miles get?
What about Waiters?
Bogdonovic?
How about Gay?
Roberson?
Tucker?
T.Snell?
15m-18m is not the going rate for a fringe starting wing player...
lobosloboslobos wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:That's a steal under the new cap. I have no idea why he didn't take his chances with RFA, he would have easily gotten way more.
nothing personal, but i don't understand the way some people think about money. it's not a video game. someone offers you $42 million dollars you take it and never worry about money for a second for the rest of your life. simple.
and also: yay!
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