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Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns

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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#101 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:16 am

Pass it off kid! Way to hog the ball
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#102 » by Blackification » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:16 am

grumpysaddle wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:I got confused watching these kids plays, thought I was watching a Suns scrimmage


Jr. Suns vs. Jazz provably wouldn't be too much worse.

the dancing halftime grandmas could do better
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#103 » by Stark » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:17 am

I even miss PJ. He would be yelling so hard at young guys right now.

and also he would try to run a fastbreak alone while Jackson is open in transition...
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#104 » by grumpysaddle » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:17 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:I got confused watching these kids plays, thought I was watching a Suns scrimmage


Jr. Suns vs. Jazz provably wouldn't be too much worse.

the dancing halftime grandmas could do better


I'd rather watch Red Panda flip bowls onto her head for a few hours. That lady is awesome.
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#105 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:20 am

We're playing Portland again? Oh and our last game is against an Aussie team from Brissy.
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#106 » by darealjuice » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:21 am

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darealjuice wrote:I'm sure plenty of our issues are coaching problems, but our players make a lot of boneheaded plays that are clearly not within the offense. Pretty sure the blame for our offense looking bad is somewhere around 50:50, we really don't run anything that unique in our offensive system but some of our players look like they don't know where to be pretty frequently.

Those boneheaded plays are because we lack discipline. We don't know what to do 85% of the time because it's either 1 or 2 set plays, or it's Booker/Warren/Bledsoe ISO. My local over-35's league runs more plays than these guys.


We run a play almost every single time we go down the court, it devolves into ISO almost every possession because they don't get anything out of the offense. Guys don't set hard screens, and the guys coming off screens don't set their guys up to be screened, so every single pass is pressured and way further from the basket than it should be. That's basic **** that half out players just don't do. I won't act like all of our plays are perfect, but nothing we run is unique. A lot of the time our players don't execute and make it look ****, which I think falls on both the players and the coaching.

Not to mention we have zero spacing to even run an offense. Just watch how teams defend Bender, Chriss, TJ, and Jackson off-ball when they're on the perimeter, they literally want us to pass to them because they can't shoot 3s at an average NBA level or won't shoot 3s at all. No one in the rotation can shoot the ball well besides Booker, Bledsoe, and Daniels. We really need Bender and Chriss to develop into above average shooters, and right now they're treated almost treated like non-shooters, and rightfully so.
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#107 » by bigfoot » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:21 am

grumpysaddle wrote:
Blackification wrote:
grumpysaddle wrote:
Jr. Suns vs. Jazz provably wouldn't be too much worse.

the dancing halftime grandmas could do better


I'd rather watch Red Panda flip bowls onto her head for a few hours. That lady is awesome.


Sweet Jeezus you made me go watch that
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#108 » by Kerrsed » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:22 am

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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#109 » by Blackification » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:23 am

We were 6.5 point favorites this game on the betting lines. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#110 » by SideSwipe » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:24 am

It's on: http://www.nba.com/suns/now

They finally put a link and got the site working.
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#111 » by grumpysaddle » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:24 am

They really can't figure this streaming thing out. It's so **** laggy.
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#112 » by Blackification » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:26 am

First thing we do after halftime is a turnover lmao
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#113 » by SideSwipe » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:27 am

Was that Alex Len with that dunk?!?!?
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#114 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:27 am

Blackification wrote:First thing we do after halftime is a turnover lmao

What did you expect? 2 points and the foul? We're talking about the 2018 Phoenix Suns here mate :D
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#115 » by Blackification » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:28 am

Oh my god, bledsoe can't even make an entry pass. Is this team drunk?
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#116 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:29 am

darealjuice wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
darealjuice wrote:I'm sure plenty of our issues are coaching problems, but our players make a lot of boneheaded plays that are clearly not within the offense. Pretty sure the blame for our offense looking bad is somewhere around 50:50, we really don't run anything that unique in our offensive system but some of our players look like they don't know where to be pretty frequently.

Those boneheaded plays are because we lack discipline. We don't know what to do 85% of the time because it's either 1 or 2 set plays, or it's Booker/Warren/Bledsoe ISO. My local over-35's league runs more plays than these guys.


We run a play almost every single time we go down the court, it devolves into ISO almost every possession because they don't get anything out of the offense. Guys don't set hard screens, and the guys coming off screens don't set their guys up to be screened, so every single pass is pressured and way further from the basket than it should be. That's basic **** that half out players just don't do. I won't act like all of our plays are perfect, but nothing we run is unique. A lot of the time our players don't execute and make it look ****, which I think falls on both the players and the coaching.

Not to mention we have zero spacing to even run an offense. Just watch how teams defend Bender, Chriss, TJ, and Jackson off-ball when they're on the perimeter, they literally want us to pass to them because they can't shoot 3s at an average NBA level or won't shoot 3s at all. No one in the rotation can shoot the ball well besides Booker, Bledsoe, and Daniels. We really need Bender and Chriss to develop into above average shooters, and right now they're treated almost treated like non-shooters, and rightfully so.
That's entirely a coaching issue. We don't seem to have anything after 1 or 2 set plays which if it fails, and often it does because of aforementioned soft screens, and that usually just ends with Booker taking a tough shot which is either ugly or amazing. Our guys will make boneheaded plays when the team isn't in sync with each other and don't know what to do. The weak passes which get picked off, the drives into set up defense and the standing around are all from a lack of coaching direction. When things don't work, they don't have plays to at least get a decent shot off; it's just iso
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#117 » by Kerrsed » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:29 am

OK, THIS IS JUST COMICAL NOW. IS THAT 4 OR 5 TURNOVERS SINCE HALFTIME?

And this is against Utahs "C" squad.
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#118 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:29 am

Man I'm SO GLAD one of the JJ is hitting his 3's.
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#119 » by Blackification » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:30 am

Great shooting by Josh,

terrible shot by Booker. What happens when our coach can't draw up a play for our best scorer
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Re: Preseason Game #3 : Utah Jazz @ Phoenix Suns 

Post#120 » by kennydorglas » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:31 am

Ok Josh
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