Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 1

Post #1461 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:13 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
Damkac wrote:Would you do Bledsoe for Dejounte Murray and Tony Parker's corpse? And would Spurs do this?

Im probably Dejountes biggest supporter on this board and even i would require more coming back. The value just isnt there yet.

I don't think Spurs would do it.

YouTube · Post #1462 » by **Kerrsed** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:33 pm

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Saberestar · Post #1463 » by **Saberestar** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:42 pm

I wanted Jok staying on the roster but he probably is not good enough.

Not surprised about Bennett, he probably goes to our team in the G-League.

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Biff · Post #1464 » by **Biff** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:13 pm

Bennett just needs to go to Europe, dude isn't an NBA player.

NTB · Post #1465 » by **NTB** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:26 pm

Biff wrote:Bennett just needs to go to Europe, dude isn't an NBA player.

He couldn't do it in Europe either.

Post #1466 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:35 pm

Kerrsed wrote:Just read that despite Ball's 40% 3PT shooting in college, he has hit just 3/52 in the Summer Leagues and Preseason combined. Those pesky NBA defenders seem to bit a bit tougher for him to handle. Long gone are the days of him shooting over the heads of opposing 5'10 PG's that pretend to defend him.

Didn't even see that stat but it's troubling and it's only going to get harder for him as teams continue to pressure him and target him.

Foliohattu · Post #1467 » by **Foliohattu** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:58 pm

Kerrsed wrote:Just read that despite Ball's 40% 3PT shooting in college, he has hit just 3/52 in the Summer Leagues and Preseason combined. Those pesky NBA defenders seem to bit a bit tougher for him to handle. Long gone are the days of him shooting over the heads of opposing 5'10 PG's that pretend to defend him.

I think he was 12/50 combined from three, which is still obviously bad, but not sure where you got that 3/52 from :lol:

Waylay13 · Post #1468 » by **Waylay13** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:06 pm

Kerrsed wrote:Just read that despite Ball's 40% 3PT shooting in college, he has hit just 3/52 in the Summer Leagues and Preseason combined. Those pesky NBA defenders seem to bit a bit tougher for him to handle. Long gone are the days of him shooting over the heads of opposing 5'10 PG's that pretend to defend him.

The issue that I had with him is that his passing is almost completely based on transition basketball. He has almost no game PnR game and his shot is very bad when not being taken form set places on the court.

While this years draft may have been thought to be one of the better ones for point guard I think that there is a good chance that none of the lottery point guards are going to make an impact.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1469 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:17 pm

Pre-season rookie numbers probably don't matter, Kendall Marshall is a 37% career 3 point shooter and don't think Ball can be that much worse.

Biff · Post #1470 » by **Biff** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:20 pm

NTB wrote:
Biff wrote:Bennett just needs to go to Europe, dude isn't an NBA player.

He couldn't do it in Europe either.

Did he try Europe already? I haven't been paying attention to his career. Maybe China then?

I thought the Cavs were reaching when they took him #1 but I also thought he'd at least be able to be a role player. If you read his draft express profile, it's amazing he turned out to be so terrible.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1471 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:24 pm

We signed Len and Daniels since so Bennett and Jok were backstops just in case.

Post #1472 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:47 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Revived wrote:Chriss and Bender both have a lot to learn still, not sure either of them should be starting, we're off playing small ball with both Warren and Jackson starting.

The 2016 draft was a really s***ty draft for us to have two top 10 picks in. Similar to the 2013 draft.

We'd probably be looking better had we kept our 13 and 27 and Bogdan and gotten Skal with that 27th pick and whoever we wanted at 13, though I haven't given up on Chriss in the least bit. But that would have probably given us better depth, and Skal is looking as good as Chriss alone, not even considering the 13th and Bogdan and the depth that could have added.

I agree with this purely on the basis of having Bogdan and Skal (assuming we go with him at #27 as well) gives us two players who are relatively more experienced and potentially more ready to contribute right away. Between Bender, Skal and Brogdan, we would only have one player who's relatively inexperienced.

Post #1473 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:52 pm

Kerrsed wrote:

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Is that really breaking news :-?

Post #1474 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:42 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:

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Is that really breaking news

What a draft at the top. Bennett waived by one of the worst teams in the draft. Len and Noel on qualifying offers. McLemore. I guess Porter at 3 and McCollum at 10 were good, and Dipo wasn't bad. Nor was Zeller at 4. Though of course the best two picks were at 15 and 27 with Giannis and Gobert.

Post #1475 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:02 am

Totally forgot Len was in the same draft. As I recall, McLemore was my guy in that draft

Post #1476 » by **ATTL** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:33 am

I wanted noel or macklemore. Not a good draft to have a high pick.

LukasBMW · Post #1477 » by **LukasBMW** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:38 am

ATTL wrote:I wanted noel or macklemore. Not a good draft to have a high pick.

I thought McLemore had the most potential. I wanted him.

Len was honestly my second choice. I was worried about Noel's knees.

Never for a second thought Rudy or Giannis would be superstars. LOL. I was more pissed that we didn't get the Laker pick (Shabazz) and instead got Archie.

The draft is such a crapshoot.

jredsaz · Post #1478 » by **jredsaz** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:19 am

I was all over McCollum. I wanted to trade back but no one was looking to trade up in that awful draft. He would have been a "reach at 5" but in retrospect it's clear that no one had that draft dialed in.

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jredsaz · Post #1479 » by **jredsaz** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:25 am

bwgood77 wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
We'd probably be looking better had we kept our 13 and 27 and Bogdan and gotten Skal with that 27th pick and whoever we wanted at 13, though I haven't given up on Chriss in the least bit. But that would have probably given us better depth, and Skal is looking as good as Chriss alone, not even considering the 13th and Bogdan and the depth that could have added.

Stll too early to tell. We would look better NOW, cause mainly Bogdan is much more ready to play than any of our teenagers. Skal is just greener grass on the other side...lots of flaws if u look closely, I am sure.

Sure, but Skal has been shooting well, averaging 52% shooting overall, 40% from 3, along with rebounds, assists, blocks and steals. Playing a lot of minutes as well. Without one bad game he'd be playing better. I don't necessarily think he will be better than Chriss. Chriss SHOULD be better having been drafted so much higher, but considering Bogdan and whoever else we may have gotten at 13, and/or could have taken Dejounte Murray at 27, it will be interesting to see how things play out.

Add to that Bogdanovic and that trade looks worse. Skal was the higher ratted HS recruit and it wasn't close.

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Post #1480 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:27 am

jredsaz wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
MathiasPW wrote:
Stll too early to tell. We would look better NOW, cause mainly Bogdan is much more ready to play than any of our teenagers. Skal is just greener grass on the other side...lots of flaws if u look closely, I am sure.

Sure, but Skal has been shooting well, averaging 52% shooting overall, 40% from 3, along with rebounds, assists, blocks and steals. Playing a lot of minutes as well. Without one bad game he'd be playing better. I don't necessarily think he will be better than Chriss. Chriss SHOULD be better having been drafted so much higher, but considering Bogdan and whoever else we may have gotten at 13, and/or could have taken Dejounte Murray at 27, it will be interesting to see how things play out.

Add to that Bogdanovic and that trade looks worse. Skal was the higher ratted HS recruit and it wasn't close.

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I added Bogdan and the previous response to yours was mentioning Skal and Bogdan but no mention of whoever we would have taken at 13.