DingleJerry wrote:I know this has been going on so long so I know everyone is burned out on the argument over and over. But I don't really see CHL being rude to anyone throughout it whereas he gets constantly attacked. And he and GoS were attacked and mocked during Jabari's hot streak last year. Sure it's repetitive but so is everyone else on the other side of the argument so I don't see how he's any worse than anyone else, he's just in the minority so he stands out more.
Yep. They're trying to rewrite history now and say the only reason they've been such jerks is because of the way I made my case, but everyone knows that's not how it went down. I stuck to the same criticisms for years and articulated my case very clearly and without attacking other posters. Lots of people who didn't really have a horse in the race said it seemed like I was pretty reasonable about it and they respected my dissenting opinion, even if they didn't agree. The bottom line is that some people just couldn't stand to hear skepticism about their precious Jabari and they made it personal for years. Of course I started sniping back eventually, as anyone would, but I stuck to the merits of arguments and put up with constant mocking and taunts for years before I lost all respect for them. Majorities just love to silence dissenting opinions and it seems to be human nature, but they don't care about the merits of the argument and they especially don't care if they wrong; they just want to remain in the majority. They're often right, but sometimes the majority gets burdened with a spectacularly stupid idea and they just can't get it out of their head because they can't truly hear why they're wrong, they're too busy trying to shut down dissent. And even when they are proven wrong, they usually can't man up at all. Instead they rewrite the whole argument and say some b.s. like it's the way
I talked to
them that made them mad, as if they didn't spend years taunting and mocking. They said it's not about the arguments, it's about the tone, but everyone knows I didn't set that tone.
I wanted to trade him for Crowder and the BK pick and people are all over game threads any time Jabari plays well mocking me for wanting to trade him for Crowder, as if the pick is nothing.
Jabari plays well and everybody is mocking Jabari ti's after the game, but then they're quiet when Jabari plays poorly. Then they accuse me of doing the same thing in reverse, except it wasn't true that I stayed quiet after his good games at all, as some neutral observers pointed out. I just came on and said of course he's gonna have lots of great scoring games, that's part of the overall picture I've painted since before he was drafted. They just assumed that's how I would act because they projected their character on to me. Just like they project their character on to me when they say I wanted Jabari to fail so I would be proven right, when it was painfully obvious that I had really good reasons for not thinking he would be a valuable player and just wanted the Bucks to not slobber all over the knobs of overrated one-dimensional scorers anymore like they did through most of the Kohl era.
I compare him to all-stars like Fatione, Jamison, Abdur-Rahim, David Lee, Big Dog, Mashburn, Sczerbiak, etc and people call me a troll. That's the class he was in and the impact he had though, by any objective measure. In reality, all those guys will probably go down as better players than him now that he tore his ACL again.
I say over and over again I think he's going to get hurt, I don't want to build around this guy, trade him when you get a chance, there's something wrong with his proportions and biomechanics and center of gravity and it's gonna be a disaster, he had a stress fracture already in high school and he's been fat even when his metabolism should be peaking so he's going to have trouble staying lean... and people literally accuse me of
wanting him to get hurt! God forbid they just acknowledge that I was on to something, lol. But they have to make it about my character and why they don't like me, as if they has anything to do with whether my criticisms were fair.
RS starts a Jabari ti thread to keep it out of game threads and a lot of people are on board. We have some great trade ideas, literally every single one of which would have been much better than keeping him, but 1/3 of the posts are just "this thread is a disgrace", "you guys are idiots", "anybody who wants to trade Jabari doesn't have a clue", "Jabari is a superstar", blah blah blah. And some people start a "trade Giannis" thread as a clear troll move and say "if there's a trade Jabari thread, why can't we have this thread?" It was meant to imply that a trade Jabari thread was just as much of a troll move as a trade Giannis thread... so how's that looking now?
We talk about fit, about 3-and-d guys and so forth, and people insult our intelligence. But Jabari tears his ACL twice, gets replaced with a good 3-and-d guy with very limited mobility both times (Dudley and a hobbled Khris) and the Bucks instantly get better. Yet people just can't get it out of their heads that Jabari is just not a good player at all, so they struggle to incorporate this and all the other evidence of Jabari's mediocrity into their worldview and end up lashing out at the people pointing out the discrepancies, as people with cognitive dissonance so often do.
I point out that Jabari has been fat on several occasions and also has a genetic heritage associated with obesity, a simple objective statistical fact, and people start calling me a racist left and right. That was when it really went south. That sh*t was pathetic.
They're still on it, making stuff up and rewriting history. Just a few pages ago, MCG claims I just threw every possible criticism under the sun at Jabari and hoped a few would stick. That could not be further from the truth. On the contrary, you'd be hard-pressed to ever find anyone who's been more specific and detailed in the exact things they don't like about a prospect, and more consistent in sticking to them. And almost everything I said has proven to be spot on.
It's okay to be a foolish homer, but it's not okay to be a total jerk about it. This place is getting more like the Raptors and Knicks board every year.
Wut we've got here is... faaailure... to communakate.
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