Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 1

[bwgood77]

There was also this in Lowe's column...

How about Valanciunas for Tyson Chandler? Toronto gets a win-now veteran and the same years-and-money reduction; Phoenix exchanges a geezer for a 25-year-old. Eh. Unloading deals that extend past the summer of 2019, when some of the bubble contracts come off the books, is going to be really hard. The market will loosen up in July, when more cap room pops open and those deals creep a year closer to expiration.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21002422/zach-lowe-32-crazy-nba-predictions-2017-18

Not sure I'd want to do that, though it makes some sense. I'm not a big fan of JV and his contract goes a year longer if he opts in for his last year PO. Plus it's a few more million a year. I'm maybe rather have Poeltl though they probably want to keep him....he's shooting 93% from the field, but doesn't seem to do much rim protecting and not sure of his defense. I know Raps fans are always complaining about his JV's defense though.

[nevetsov]

If we're not going to give Len an opportunity to start now, especially with Williams out and Chandler giving us nothing, then he's certainly not going to get an opportunity in the future. If we offer him a trade to a place that will use him, I think he signs off on it.

Bledsoe and Len for Drummond
Chandler for Smart and filler

Smart
Booker
Jackson
Chriss
Drummond

You understand that you can't trade Len this year without his approval due to the fact that any team he goes to wont have his bird rights?

Refer second sentence.

[Bogyo]

Well, if we're dealing Bled, for a high(ish) draft pick I'd say our best chance is still Cleveland. Bled+Miami pick(+maybe our 2nd rounder) for IT+Shump+Brooklyn pick.
We get another top10 pick (4-7 I'd say), a midged tutor for our midget for a half year, and 2 vets to help us with their presence. Then we can pick up Doncic or Sexton + whichever big is we choose with our pick.
Cleveland gets a quality PG who is not injured, can D up, and a friend of LeBron, plus cap relief, and some more young and cheap talent to round out their rotation.
IT gets to rehab with the best in business.

[LV-Suns]

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Who is this

Such strange signing this late into preseason.

[Saberestar]

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Such strange signing this late into preseason.

Wow, I did not see this coming.

We are gonna waive Elijah Millsap for sure...but who else?

Probably Peters or DJJ?

[bwoolf2]

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Who is this

Such strange signing this late into preseason.

Wow, I did not see this coming.

We are gonna waive Elijah Millsap for sure...but who else?

Probably Peters or DJJ?

Wont be DJJ, I know the fans around here are down on him but the team feel differently.

[Saberestar]

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[gaspar]

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Who is this

Such strange signing this late into preseason.

Wow, I did not see this coming.

We are gonna waive Elijah Millsap for sure...but who else?

Probably Peters or DJJ?

Wont be DJJ, I know the fans around here are down on him but the team feel differently.

We will waive Keita. It happens all the time. Teams sign and cut players 2 day later and have them go to their G-League team.
http://gleague.nba.com/affiliate-players/

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[Saberestar]

Wow, I did not see this coming.

We are gonna waive Elijah Millsap for sure...but who else?

Probably Peters or DJJ?

Wont be DJJ, I know the fans around here are down on him but the team feel differently.

We will waive Keita. It happens all the time. Teams sign and cut players 2 day later and have them go to their G-League team.
http://gleague.nba.com/affiliate-players/

OK then, good signing for the G-League team.

I do not know why Dave King did not realize that, he is close to the team.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Wow, I did not see this coming.

We are gonna waive Elijah Millsap for sure...but who else?

Probably Peters or DJJ?

Wont be DJJ, I know the fans around here are down on him but the team feel differently.

We will waive Keita. It happens all the time. Teams sign and cut players 2 day later and have them go to their G-League team.
http://gleague.nba.com/affiliate-players/

Couldn't they simply have signed him to their dleague team then? I don't get the advantage of the quick sign and release.

Who knows maybe a knight buyout/release is coming.

Edit add: was thinking about it and I guess they could do something like give keita like 50 or 100k guaranteed on his contract then release him with him agreeing to go to flagstaff. Seems like something that would be frowned upon by the league but I'm not sure would technically be illegal.

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[kennydorglas]

if i'm not mistaken, Keita tested really well in the IMG combine
really young too, great size&athleticism

[bwgood77]

Another interesting part of Lowe's column including some of this forum's favorite trade target discussions....

The Pelicans re-sign DeMarcus Cousins

Here's what I really wanted to predict: The Pelicans trade Cousins and filler to the Heat for Hassan Whiteside. That is my favorite fake trade in the league.

Think about it: If the Pelicans combust, they should get something for Cousins instead of letting him walk and pissing off Anthony Davis. Davis doesn't want to play center; Whiteside does!

For Miami, this is a pure talent play. Cousins is better and younger, with an untapped upside. If he ever gets his head on straight, Cousins is a top-10 player. You know who has a good record of coaxing alleged trouble personalities down the right path? The team that rescued Whiteside, and bought early on the Waiters Island waterfront!

The Heat are confident that once a player gets a taste of the way they do things (and of that South Beach life) they can entice him to stay. Miami's cap sheet is clogged through 2020; this might be their only way to land a star talent.

Alas, both teams swear up and down this won't happen. I almost predicted it anyway; Shea Serrano is always telling people to shoot their shot.

I'll settle for this: The Pellies hang around .500, miss the playoffs, shrug their shoulders, and max out Boogie. As of now, they won't have cap room to sign anyone else of consequence. Cousins would have them over a barrel the same way Jrue Holiday did.

And who else is lavishing Cousins with the max? At least half the league has (or claims to have) an ironclad "No Boogie" rule. The Lakers might take a shot on him as an Amar'e Stoudemire Memorial Free Agency Consolation Prize if they strike out on bigger names. The Mavs aren't afraid of gambling, and they'll need a center if Noel jets.

Beyond that, the market is murky.

And another part....

the league is littered with long-term contracts that now look like horrid overpays. It is really hard to find a non-superstar on a two- or three-year deal for whom a team might exchange a big expiring contract. Like, a lot of teams wouldn't touch Andre Drummond's contract, even if they only had to send dead money to get him. On the flip side, teams are loathe to flip talented players -- even overpaid ones -- for someone who will bolt right away. Even Detroit, in tax hell, might not give up Drummond for salary relief alone. (At least not yet.)

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21002422/zach-lowe-32-crazy-nba-predictions-2017-18

[Kerrsed]

if i'm not mistaken, Keita tested really well in the IMG combine
really young too, great size&athleticism

The Kid has only been playing Basketball for a total of 3 years. And when i say playing, i mean 1st time he picked up a basketball. Thats crazy!

[Kerrsed]

"He's a guy, he's been playing basketball for three years. Like, literally. He makes Bruno look like he was far along in the process when we got Bruno," Raptors assistant general manager Dan Tolzman says. "That's not in a negative way, it's just that it's gonna take work. It's, who knows where it goes from here? He's shown enough flashes that it's kind of like, wow, for a guy who's playing for three years to get to this point in NBA summer league, it's pretty impressive."

"He has all the athletic tools, he's long, he's athletic. He's young, he just needs to continue to work fundamentally, learning the game, because he has all the skills," head coach Dwane Casey says. "I don't know that he's ready to be an NBA player right today, but he has all the physical skills. That jumping ability, running the floor. Most young players have to learn how to play without the ball, play with four other guys on the court, spacing, defensive rotations. All of those things will come, and he has all the tools, the size, the length to play at a high level."

Given that it's taken Caboclo three seasons to get to the precipice of potential NBA minutes, the timeline for Keita will probably be a longer one. They're not the same player, but the message will be similar: Keita will need to add plenty of size, to learn the game, the language, how to translate skills and tools into actual production, to, above all else, get minutes. If that's with Raptors 905, he'll be free from the pressures of an NBA contract, of "two years away from being two years away," and, eventually, of comparisons to Caboclo.

[kennydorglas]

if i'm not mistaken, Keita tested really well in the IMG combine
really young too, great size&athleticism

The Kid has only been playing Basketball for a total of 3 years. And when i say playing, i mean 1st time he picked up a basketball. Thats crazy!

Really weird story. Didnt played in Europe and much less in any France's junior team lol
ZERO tape on him, I dont even know how they picked him up for the IMG combine.

[bwgood77]

One more from this long read of predictions...

Minnesota trades Cole Aldrich and a second-round pick for Jared Dudley

The Wolves need depth and shooting, and the Suns could use more wiggle room Aldrich's partially-guaranteed deal would crack open this summer. They are not getting better than this for Dudley. Minnesota is staring down a hefty tax bill for next season after handing over Scrooge McDuck's vault to Andrew Wiggins; Dudley would add to it. Tom Thibodeau might snare a bench piece now anyway, and deal with next season's tax next season.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21002422/zach-lowe-32-crazy-nba-predictions-2017-18

[gaspar]

Wont be DJJ, I know the fans around here are down on him but the team feel differently.

We will waive Keita. It happens all the time. Teams sign and cut players 2 day later and have them go to their G-League team.
http://gleague.nba.com/affiliate-players/

Couldn't they simply have signed him to their dleague team then? I don't get the advantage of the quick sign and release.

Who knows maybe a knight buyout/release is coming.

Edit add: was thinking about it and I guess they could do something like give keita like 50 or 100k guaranteed on his contract then release him with him agreeing to go to flagstaff. Seems like something that would be frowned upon by the league but I'm not sure would technically be illegal.

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Nope. In the G-League free agents sign contracts with the league. "If the player signs with the NBA G League before the season, he is eligible for the NBA G League Draft. If he signs mid-season, he is available for NBA G League teams to claim in the league waiver pool."
http://gleague.nba.com/how-rosters-are-built/

Also, Keita can't get more than $50K from the Suns, if we want him to play for the NAZ Suns in the G-League.

[gaspar]

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[Kerrsed]

Its done.

The Hawks acquired Richard Jefferson, Kay Felder, two second-round picks and cash from the Cavs for draft rights to Dimitrios Agravanis and Sergii Gladyr.
The move saves the Cavs $12.8 million in luxury tax and they were probably going to waive Jefferson anyway. The biggest loss for the Cavs in this deal would be the loss of R-Jeff's Snapchat. He is expected to be bought out.