Markelle Fultz Discussion

[Ericb5]

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/10/10/16452324/markelle-fultz-free-throw-shoulder

This is all getting very bizarre. I don't know what to believe anymore.

There is no mystery to when he hurt his shoulder. It happened in the first preseason game. I remember the play.

He ran into his own man I think, but he hit it hard, and then was flexing it right afterward obviously feeling some pain.

At that moment my brother texted me and called it that he would miss the next game, and he did.

Whatever is going on with his free throw form was going on before then because we noticed it in training camp.

I don’t understand the goofy form, but it isn’t related to his injury.


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That's speculation on your part. No one knows for sure. He could have aggravated it then, and hurt it a while back and changed his form because of it.

It isn’t speculation that he hurt it in that game, and then was out of the next day’s practice and the following game.

There is no indication that he was injured before then, and he had the goofy form before. Maybe he aggravated a previous injury, but that was the first time that WE knew about anything.


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[agiaco]

Time to stop feeding any inflammation and give up the chick-fil-a. Something hard for a 19-year-old kid to do, that's for sure.

[76ciology]

Haha overreaction. Fultz wont miss a year. I think Fultz will miss next game while Biid will play to more than make it up. I also think Fultz outplayed Tatum last game (+3 with good raw stats) that was downplayed by his weird shooting.

[Simmons25]

If someone has a shoulder injury the remedy is to let him play and barrel into defenders on his way to the rim? I can't even believe the incompetence. Feels like any day now we should be waiting for news of rotator cuff surgery.

LOL whilst I know this was probably said in jest... given the way he is starting his shot with his arm already raised that is exactly the injury he would have. An injured rotator cuff.

One of the symptoms of having a rotator cuff injury is that you get immense pain moving your arm from down below your waist to above the point of the shoulder and would have a clicking feeling in your shoulder every time you do this. As a shooter it would be very off-putting and painful.

The question is though... how many months has he been carrying this for because it is at least since before training camp.

[Worm122]

Why is Fultz playing while he is hurt in a **** preseason game?


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[cksdayoff]

lol if fultz had a serious shoulder injury he wouldnt be playing in a preseason game

[76ciology]

I thought Fultz was solid against the Celtics. He was able to get to the rim. He was able to finish most times. He was above average atleast on defense. He was a +3. He outplayed Tatum. He adjusted from the Grizz game. All these overshadowed by the viral threads about his FT mechanics.

BTW has he attempted a 3 yet? Weird eh?

[Negrodamus]

lol if fultz had a serious shoulder injury he wouldnt be playing in a preseason game

If Embiid had a serious knee injury he wouldn't be playing in a regular season game...wait a minute.

[Negrodamus]

I thought Fultz was solid against the Celtics. He was able to get to the rim. He was able to finish most times. He was above average atleast on defense. He was a +3. He outplayed Tatum. He adjusted from the Grizz game. All these overshadowed by the viral threads about his FT mechanics.

This is how I feel. He looked very good on offense and his length was apparent on defense. I would love it if he would play passing lanes more like RoCo and generate steals, but for the most part, I liked what I saw.

[76ciology]

Among the 5 positions on the floor, which defender's position would you say Fultz will have the advantage in going up against?

PG right?

That's why I think its a big step to see him being able to be a good defender at PG. He just needs to improve this on a team context by being able to add deflections.

Once his shot gets fixed, he will. Don't exaggerate. He will be a nightmare for PGs to defend.

[ivysixer2000]

Among the 5 positions on the floor, which defender's position would you say Fultz will have the advantage in going up against?

PG right?

That's why I think its a big step to see him being able to be a good defender at PG. He just needs to improve this on a team context by being able to add deflections.

Once his shot gets fixed, he will. Don't exaggerate. He will be a nightmare for PGs to defend.

Yeah, if I was the opposition, I'd make their pg switch off to JJ on D. Then Fultz might have a bigger SG on him which he doesn't have that advantage.

Just saying....but I agree on offense, he will be hard for a PG to defend unless they just put their PG on JJ. Length is how they defended Iverson, they can do the same with Fultz with us having JJ so short.

Fultz still has more upside than any PG in this draft (except maybe DSJ), whether or not he lives up to it, who knows. We have to know if our medical staff isn't f'n up again to make sure Fultz is ok and healthy.

[76ciology]

Among the 5 positions on the floor, which defender's position would you say Fultz will have the advantage in going up against?

PG right?

That's why I think its a big step to see him being able to be a good defender at PG. He just needs to improve this on a team context by being able to add deflections.

Once his shot gets fixed, he will. Don't exaggerate. He will be a nightmare for PGs to defend.

Yeah, if I was the opposition, I'd make their pg switch off to JJ on D. Then Fultz might have a bigger SG on him which he doesn't have that advantage.

Just saying....but I agree on offense, he will be hard for a PG to defend unless they just put their PG on JJ. Length is how they defended Iverson, they can do the same with Fultz with us having JJ so short.

Fultz still has more upside than any PG in this draft (except maybe DSJ), whether or not he lives up to it, who knows. We have to know if our medical staff isn't f'n up again to make sure Fultz is ok and healthy.

Then we hit them with the SG/SF dilemma like wade-lbj/jordan pip. Most times when teams have elite wing, they'll partner them with weaker defender. Most top SGs are weak defenders, while they can put their defensive wing on Fultz because of Simmons.

Top 26 ORPM SGs all have negative DRPM, except for Manu and Seth Curry. Both guys should look at limited exposure. I find most defensive wings at SF that is already busy with the RoCo/Ben dilemma.

Against Cavs, Fultz can test JR or Wade. Against Celts, JJ and Biid can test Kyrie and Horford's D. Biid should prevail against GSW. So on and so fort

[ivysixer2000]

Among the 5 positions on the floor, which defender's position would you say Fultz will have the advantage in going up against?

PG right?

That's why I think its a big step to see him being able to be a good defender at PG. He just needs to improve this on a team context by being able to add deflections.

Once his shot gets fixed, he will. Don't exaggerate. He will be a nightmare for PGs to defend.

Yeah, if I was the opposition, I'd make their pg switch off to JJ on D. Then Fultz might have a bigger SG on him which he doesn't have that advantage.

Just saying....but I agree on offense, he will be hard for a PG to defend unless they just put their PG on JJ. Length is how they defended Iverson, they can do the same with Fultz with us having JJ so short.

Fultz still has more upside than any PG in this draft (except maybe DSJ), whether or not he lives up to it, who knows. We have to know if our medical staff isn't f'n up again to make sure Fultz is ok and healthy.

Then we hit them with the SG/SF dilemma like wade-lbj/jordan pip. Most times when teams have elite wing, they'll partner them with weaker defender. Most top SGs are weak defenders, while they can put their defensive wing on Fultz because of Simmons.

Top 26 ORPM SGs all have negative DRPM, except for Manu and Seth Curry. Both guys should look at limited exposure. I find most defensive wings at SF that is already busy with the RoCo/Ben dilemma.

Against Cavs, Fultz can test JR or Wade. Against Celts, JJ and Biid can test Kyrie and Horford's D. Biid should prevail against GSW. So on and so fort

Yeah, against the Celts, I do think they have the advantage on the perimeter for now. Defensively put Kyrie on JJ, put Jaylon on Fultz. Now obviously we have the advantage everywhere else, but you see my point, the Celts will have huge problems 3-5 defensively, especially with Embiid on the court. Roco can D up Haywood and Tatum/Morris want nothing to do with Ben.

Cavs will be an issue if Embiid isn't on the court, which is why I said everything depends on him. If we have to play in the playoffs vs the Cavs, we absolutely have to have Embiid for like 39-40 mins.....yeah I know, just saying.

[LloydFree]

Among the 5 positions on the floor, which defender's position would you say Fultz will have the advantage in going up against?

PG right?

That's why I think its a big step to see him being able to be a good defender at PG. He just needs to improve this on a team context by being able to add deflections.

Once his shot gets fixed, he will. Don't exaggerate. He will be a nightmare for PGs to defend.

Yeah, if I was the opposition, I'd make their pg switch off to JJ on D. Then Fultz might have a bigger SG on him which he doesn't have that advantage.

Just saying....but I agree on offense, he will be hard for a PG to defend unless they just put their PG on JJ. Length is how they defended Iverson, they can do the same with Fultz with us having JJ so short.

Fultz still has more upside than any PG in this draft (except maybe DSJ), whether or not he lives up to it, who knows. We have to know if our medical staff isn't f'n up again to make sure Fultz is ok and healthy.

It only took the pre-season, now suddenly DSJ has more upside than Fultz. What a difference 4 months makes.

[sixers4real]

How do you guys think will Fultz play in a season opener?
Will he start or come the bench?

[76ciology]

How do you guys think will Fultz play in a season opener?
Will he start or come the bench?

Likely to start, but not certain

[spikeslovechild]

How do you guys think will Fultz play in a season opener?
Will he start or come the bench?

He should start Bayless is not a SG. Though our bench is going to be serious trash

[JoJoEmbiid]

Am I the only one who thought Fultz would actually take a good amount of jump shots? He's been hesitant to shoot anything outside the paint. I still don't understand why a good shooter completely changed his shot to the point he's afraid to shoot. In SL he looked GREAT, now he looks like James Harden that doesnt like to shoot.

[Kobblehead]

I thought Markelle Fultz had a terrible scoring style at Washington. I was a strong believer that it was never going to translate to an NBA scheme. I think him having to re-invent himself, offensively, is something that was necessary.

I actually like the fact that Fultz is focusing on penetrating and getting FGAs off at the rim. I think establishing himself as a dangerous slasher will open everything else up for him. I hope that the only time he shoots from distance is on assisted FGAs.

I think Dennis Smith hit the ground running in the NBA because he had a far superior offensive playstyle to Fultz. Markelle is playing catch-up. That year in Washington promoted a lot of bad habits.

[LloydFree]

I thought Markelle Fultz had a terrible scoring style at Washington. I was a strong believer that it was never going to translate to an NBA scheme. I think him having to re-invent himself, offensively, is something that was necessary.

I actually like the fact that Fultz is focusing on penetrating and getting FGAs off at the rim. I think establishing himself as a dangerous slasher will open everything else up for him. I hope that the only time he shoots from distance is on assisted FGAs.

I think Dennis Smith hit the ground running in the NBA because he had a far superior offensive playstyle to Fultz. Markelle is playing catch-up. That year in Washington promoted a lot of bad habits.

I think Dennis Smith hit the ground running because he's a far superior athlete and other players can't guard him. Average athletes have to develop tricks to free themselves from NBA defenders.