Wizardspride wrote:stilldropin20 wrote:you guys dont watch fox but check out the first 6 minutes of this show. you have to deal with this because even my far left friends are feeling similarly as what is expressed in this show's first 6-7 minutes.
What exactly am I supposed to deal with?
I mean Harvey Weinstein apparently is a predator. Same as Bill Cosby.
Hell, the current president has been accused of the same.
the entire morality police schtick the left has been on for decades. as if hollywood, jimmy kimmel, the music biz, meryl streep et al have any right to guide the moral compass of the United States.
For every "issue" they are squarely on the better side of history there is another issue that they lag far behind. the right used to use "God" for the same moral high ground. it was bad politics then and bad politics now. fact is there are good people on the left and right just as there are bad. but just because you dont agree with the policy, its a weak political argument to play the whole moral high ground BS game. the name calling. deplorables, racists, etc. its just plain old and tired. yes some racists exists. yes they are awful and there is no place for that. same for sexists. and many other issues. ive lived in small towns and big cities. 12 different states and 7 different countries. Ive found that 80-99% of the people I encounter are not racists, depending on the country or region.
I've never seen a president nor candidate ever called so many foul names ever. any part of the world. the name calling has reached a vitriol and incendiary language level that no sane person would ever engage with you guys. i kept at in these pages just to show you guys we actually can have a conversation. i fully understand you. just as i fully understand conservatives. ive taken the time to get to know, trust, and love both liberal and conservatives. I am a true independent. but trust me. some of you guys make it nearly impossible to discuss these things. i dont have any real desire to educate nor persuade you because I understand its futile. But i do think the conversation needs to remain open. ive never seen this country more openly divided in my entire life. i assume the good that will come of this current divide is the long needed discussion on many is worth it. so im attempting to have that discussion. but you guys have to come off the high horse and soap box (of cards.) human being are all liars from time to time, all are self serving on some level.
But we have a country that is in trouble due to its debt. perhaps even a planet that is in trouble. we need to take care of both the country and also the planet, and then the people in it and pay our bills along the way and do so in a way where our money supply remains open and the economy remains flush with cash so we, the people, can hopefully have some "fun" along the way. yet we have a system that allows the elite wealthy to hoard the resources of wealth to absurd levels. and 1 guy in this thread besides me sounds like he is willing tax them hard.
there is a "bad guy" out there. and its not the poor broke powerless backwards azz misled miseducated hillbilly down the street. nor is it the drug dealer down the street. though neither help. they are mostly insignificant. true evil exists in the guy that has all the money and uses that money to buy political favor so he can keep his riches. that money they hoard was meant "for the people" to facilitate the exchange of goods and labor. not to hoard, so as to control.
like i said, its a full rebuild.
