OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble

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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2601 » by Atomic Punk » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:13 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
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spearsy23 wrote:Yes, we all know he's a great guy and locker room presence. We're taking about the final spot on our roster and filling a 15 minute gap in the rotation, that means the guy needs to actually be able to play basketball.


Again, I will state my question clearly; What is the downside of bringing him in on a non-guaranteed vet minimum deal and see what he can do?

Having to watch him on the court.


Again, point missed.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2602 » by spearsy23 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:15 pm

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spearsy23 wrote:A-Mo was cut as well, let's go get him too. Fish is still in pretty decent shape. Is Kevin martin still alive? What's Byron mullens up to these days?


Point missed I see.

The point is pretty clear, you want to bring back a crappy basketball player because he's a good guy and you're nostalgic. A-Mo and Fish were great teammates too, so let's bring em back.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2603 » by spearsy23 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:17 pm

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Again, I will state my question clearly; What is the downside of bringing him in on a non-guaranteed vet minimum deal and see what he can do?

Having to watch him on the court.


Again, point missed.

I think you're the one missing the point, which should be to bring in a backup center that can play basketball and help the team win. We don't have that on our roster. Perk is clearly not that, and hasn't been for awhile.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2604 » by Atomic Punk » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:18 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
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spearsy23 wrote:A-Mo was cut as well, let's go get him too. Fish is still in pretty decent shape. Is Kevin martin still alive? What's Byron mullens up to these days?


Point missed I see.

The point is pretty clear, you want to bring back a crappy basketball player because he's a good guy and you're nostalgic. A-Mo and Fish were great teammates too, so let's bring em back.


If I cared about nostalgia I wouldn't be following this team in the first place, being a Sonics fan and Washington State resident most of my life. Morrow and Fisher are not back up centers, that's the position in question, OKC has plenty of ball handlers and wings. I do value having solid, veteran players on the squad. You know who else does? The other players.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2605 » by hardenASG13 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:21 pm

You can't possibly want perk 2.0! Save the spot. Anthony Randolph would be a great addition, think he's NBA eligible contact wise in january.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2606 » by Atomic Punk » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:21 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
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spearsy23 wrote:Having to watch him on the court.


Again, point missed.

I think you're the one missing the point, which should be to bring in a backup center that can play basketball and help the team win. We don't have that on our roster. Perk is clearly not that, and hasn't been for awhile.


Fine, I will ask the same question I asked slick; who is reasonably attainable for the Thunder at this point? BTW: I think it unlikely that I missed my own point :wink:
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2607 » by Atomic Punk » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:23 pm

hardenASG13 wrote:You can't possibly want perk 2.0! Save the spot. Anthony Randolph would be a great addition, think he's NBA eligible contact wise in january.


Yes, I can.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2608 » by spearsy23 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:25 pm

Atomic Punk wrote: I do value having solid, veteran players on the squad. You know who else does? The other players.

Hey, me too, and if perk was actually a solid player, or we didn't need a guy to play, I'd be all for it. Hell, I'd even be okay with it if we had two roster spots open.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2609 » by Pillendreher » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:27 pm

spearsy23 wrote:A-Mo was cut as well, let's go get him too. Fish is still in pretty decent shape. Is Kevin martin still alive? What's Byron mullens up to these days?


We should go with THE Thunder legend

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"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2610 » by Atomic Punk » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:27 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote: I do value having solid, veteran players on the squad. You know who else does? The other players.

Hey, me too, and if perk was actually a solid player, or we didn't need a guy to play, I'd be all for it. Hell, I'd even be okay with it if we had two roster spots open.


Fair enough. I would like to see Presti waive and stretch Singler to open up that additional spot.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2611 » by spearsy23 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:32 pm

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Again, point missed.

I think you're the one missing the point, which should be to bring in a backup center that can play basketball and help the team win. We don't have that on our roster. Perk is clearly not that, and hasn't been for awhile.


Fine, I will ask the same question I asked slick; who is reasonably attainable for the Thunder at this point? BTW: I think it unlikely that I missed my own point :wink:

I think you missed the point of bringing in a backup center.

As for available guys that can backup the position better than perk?
Trade
Noguiera
Mejri
Withey
Ajinca

Free agents
Hibbert
Lee
Allen
Hawes
Hill
Splitter
Sullinger
Jones
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2612 » by spearsy23 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:35 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:A-Mo was cut as well, let's go get him too. Fish is still in pretty decent shape. Is Kevin martin still alive? What's Byron mullens up to these days?


We should go with THE Thunder legend

[img]http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/lazar-hayward-of-the-oklahoma-city-thunder-handles-the-ball-against-picture-id147813558?s=612x612]

Expected Kyle Weaver.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2613 » by Atomic Punk » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:41 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
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spearsy23 wrote:I think you're the one missing the point, which should be to bring in a backup center that can play basketball and help the team win. We don't have that on our roster. Perk is clearly not that, and hasn't been for awhile.


Fine, I will ask the same question I asked slick; who is reasonably attainable for the Thunder at this point? BTW: I think it unlikely that I missed my own point :wink:

I think you missed the point of bringing in a backup center.

As for available guys that can backup the position better than perk?
Trade
Noguiera
Mejri
Withey
Ajinca

Free agents
Hibbert
Lee
Allen
Hawes
Hill
Splitter
Sullinger
Jones


One last time, I am looking beyond raw numbers, I am looking at fit and intangibles for the 15th friggin spot on the roster. Either way, this team will go primarily small this season. But if you want retreads like Hibbert, Hawes, Splitter (!?!) and the other non-factors you mentioned ( I am not going to talk about trade targets at this point, I want to focus on FA's that would likely sign for the minimum) knock yourself out.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2614 » by spearsy23 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:55 pm

Atomic Punk wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:
Fine, I will ask the same question I asked slick; who is reasonably attainable for the Thunder at this point? BTW: I think it unlikely that I missed my own point :wink:

I think you missed the point of bringing in a backup center.

As for available guys that can backup the position better than perk?
Trade
Noguiera
Mejri
Withey
Ajinca

Free agents
Hibbert
Lee
Allen
Hawes
Hill
Splitter
Sullinger
Jones


One last time, I am looking beyond raw numbers, I am looking at fit and intangibles for the 15th friggin spot on the roster. Either way, this team will go primarily small this season. But if you want retreads like Hibbert, Hawes, Splitter (!?!) and the other non-factors you mentioned ( I am not going to talk about trade targets at this point, I want to focus on FA's that would likely sign for the minimum) knock yourself out.

I'm looking at fit and basketball ability, because that's what we actually need. And all of those retreads and non factors are infinitely better than kendrick Perkins, who should not be in the league.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2615 » by slick_watts » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:36 pm

are we acquiring a center to just wave a towel or one who is going to be expected to play meaningful minutes? if it's the former, why is this even a discussion? if it's the latter, why are we 'looking beyond raw numbers'?
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2616 » by bondom34 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:37 am

If its a towel I'm all for Perk. If its minutes, I like Allen or Splitter, or finding a trade. Wish NOLA would take Ajinca for Singler.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2617 » by bondom34 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:40 am

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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2618 » by InTheSabonus » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:23 am

I wouldn't object to getting Perk on a 10 day contract.

If it works out, he can stay longer. If he's trash, then he can get a sentimental retirement game or something.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2619 » by slick_watts » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:08 am

10-day contracts can't be signed until january
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason: Avengers Assemble 

Post#2620 » by thekaoswithin » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:32 am

Perk reunion in a playing capacity is a disaster waiting to happen. We're a contender and might actually find something useful in the buyout market. Why waste that chance for essentially another coach in Perkins?

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