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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#121 » by Yeezus_ » Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:28 pm

whoknows wrote:
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fouronesix22 wrote:
Can you explain why he is so bad?

There isnt a need for an explanation. He's a bigot and a racist and thats just who he is as a person. The fact that you don't think he's bad is a reflection on yourself.


ignorance is bliss...

lmao he's not a bigot and racist?
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#122 » by The Big O 44 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:27 pm

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I'm sorry...I didn't realize Hilary Clinton was president.


You didn't realize that she was married to Bill Clinton either did you? i'm sure Bill just ignored his crazy political wife his whole tenure and Hillary had nothing to do with any decision he ever made because that's how marriage works.


I get the impression that you watch a little too much 'house of cards' and vividly believe everything on the show.

hillary only stayed married to bill to further enhance her political career despite him getting naughty with a 22 year old that worked in his office and even worse lying about it on live tv.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#123 » by curryking3 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:31 pm

lobosloboslobos wrote:
Inevitable wrote:Triggered PC globalist athletes at it again #MAGA


green font?

Of course, that don't need green font.
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vascular wrote:
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You didn't realize that she was married to Bill Clinton either did you? i'm sure Bill just ignored his crazy political wife his whole tenure and Hillary had nothing to do with any decision he ever made because that's how marriage works.


I get the impression that you watch a little too much 'house of cards' and vividly believe everything on the show.

hillary only stayed married to bill to further enhance her political career despite him getting naughty with a 22 year old that worked in his office and even worse lying about it on live tv.

I am no Hillary fan but if a man did that I'm sure it wouldn't even be a topic of discussion. A lot of things to criticize Hillary for, but working for her own political career isn't one of them.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#124 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:39 pm

The Big O 44 wrote:
vascular wrote:
TooBad wrote:
You didn't realize that she was married to Bill Clinton either did you? i'm sure Bill just ignored his crazy political wife his whole tenure and Hillary had nothing to do with any decision he ever made because that's how marriage works.


I get the impression that you watch a little too much 'house of cards' and vividly believe everything on the show.

hillary only stayed married to bill to further enhance her political career despite him getting naughty with a 22 year old that worked in his office and even worse lying about it on live tv.


I'm sure Melania is with Trump for his rugged good looks and dashing personality.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#125 » by The Big O 44 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:45 pm

smallgains wrote:There hasn't been a real president for decades....they are just public figure heads. The real job is done by boards, think tanks, lawyers and intelligence services. I find it laughable that people think otherwise.

mainly the men who control the federal reserve which is the central banking system for the most powerful country in the world are the ones who pull the strings; among them the elite wealthy top one percent like the Rothschild and Rockefeller. They control many industries such as the media and will do anything to preserve their interests, even if it means **** everyone else over. They give money to the politician of their choosing and they are the biggest lobbyists and special interest groups ever.

That's why many presidents end up being puppets, because if they refuse they will end up like JFK or Lincoln.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#126 » by RaptorsJunkie » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:31 pm

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Trump is relevant in every aspect of society given he's attacked just about everyone, including Replublicans, except for Nazis and Russians.


I really question how relevant Trump is to discussions concerning Toronto Raptors basketball. It's not like arguing about Trump on our board is doing anything other than politicizing a space intended to be used as respite from the day-to-day grind. It's your prerogative though, so do as you wish. I'm just offering up my opinion.


Even if it's a different league he went after NFL athletes who knelt during the anthem calling them sons of a bitches. Like the NBA a lot of NFL athletes are black and share similar views towards the police brutality of black men in this country. Trump completely politicized a major social issue and forced it to be relevant by spitting in their faces on what they want to stand up for. And it's relevant for the Raptors in a tangible way since they're avoiding staying at his overpriced hotels.


They are disrespecting the country and the soldiers that fought for everything that they have today. I think it makes complete sense to call them sons of bitches. It doesn't matter if they believe they are not disrespecting the soldiers or their fellow Americans, they are. It's similar to pissing on soldiers graves and claiming it actually represents something else. All they need to do is find a different way to voice their concerns.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#127 » by UcanUwill » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:49 pm

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Ramed Nazored wrote:
I really question how relevant Trump is to discussions concerning Toronto Raptors basketball. It's not like arguing about Trump on our board is doing anything other than politicizing a space intended to be used as respite from the day-to-day grind. It's your prerogative though, so do as you wish. I'm just offering up my opinion.


Even if it's a different league he went after NFL athletes who knelt during the anthem calling them sons of a bitches. Like the NBA a lot of NFL athletes are black and share similar views towards the police brutality of black men in this country. Trump completely politicized a major social issue and forced it to be relevant by spitting in their faces on what they want to stand up for. And it's relevant for the Raptors in a tangible way since they're avoiding staying at his overpriced hotels.


They are disrespecting the country and the soldiers that fought for everything that they have today. I think it makes complete sense to call them sons of bitches. It doesn't matter if they believe they are not disrespecting the soldiers or their fellow Americans, they are. It's similar to pissing on soldiers graves and claiming it actually represents something else. All they need to do is find a different way to voice their concerns.


Kneeling during anthem is similar as pissing on graves. Yeah, tell me more...
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#128 » by Fairview4Life » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:52 pm

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Kabookalu wrote:
Ramed Nazored wrote:
I really question how relevant Trump is to discussions concerning Toronto Raptors basketball. It's not like arguing about Trump on our board is doing anything other than politicizing a space intended to be used as respite from the day-to-day grind. It's your prerogative though, so do as you wish. I'm just offering up my opinion.


Even if it's a different league he went after NFL athletes who knelt during the anthem calling them sons of a bitches. Like the NBA a lot of NFL athletes are black and share similar views towards the police brutality of black men in this country. Trump completely politicized a major social issue and forced it to be relevant by spitting in their faces on what they want to stand up for. And it's relevant for the Raptors in a tangible way since they're avoiding staying at his overpriced hotels.


They are disrespecting the country and the soldiers that fought for everything that they have today. I think it makes complete sense to call them sons of bitches. It doesn't matter if they believe they are not disrespecting the soldiers or their fellow Americans, they are. It's similar to pissing on soldiers graves and claiming it actually represents something else. All they need to do is find a different way to voice their concerns.


No they aren't. In fact, taking a knee was a suggestion from a soldier. Which soldiers asked you to speak for them? Do you get off your couch and stand in your living room for the anthem? Why not? Prior to 2009, when the US department of defense started paying the NFL to promote "patriotism", were teams pissing on troops graves by staying in their locker rooms until the anthem was over? Why should they even sing the anthem before a sporting event in the first place? Do you know when and why that started?
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#129 » by MixxSRC » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:52 pm

Flag and anthem doesn't belong to the military. It belongs to all citizens. It's again people avoiding talking about issues and focusing on something else.
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Post#130 » by Fairview4Life » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:53 pm

MixxSRC wrote:Flag and anthem doesn't belong to the military. It belongs to all citizens. It's again people avoiding talking about issues and focusing on something else.


Hating black people is more important than loving the constitution or country for many people, whether they want to admit it or not.
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Post#131 » by -TheDocOfDenial » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:00 pm

Making it about the flag was a great diversion tactic. Just like how all trump supporters spout OBAMA and HILLARY as soon as trump does something.
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Post#132 » by canguy20m » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:01 pm

Trump is such a danger to society that both julian assange and eric snowden have been in retirement mode ever since he won.
notice how lefties treated wikileaks as if it were the encyclopedia up until it sided with Trump. Now it's another inforwars lol.
snowden is hiding in Russia so he must also be on Trump's side or the Trump Russia fiasco doesn't exist (can't have it both ways).

you have independents like Jim Marrs, Steve Quayle, Alex Jones, jesse ventura etc who at the very least do their own research to back up their positions. even piers morgan stands tall over his former mates at cnn.

vs paid entertainers colbert, stewart, kimmel, maher. and their ilk who get their material handed to them by executives who in turn are told what to say by the owners and shareholders (the same people who finance clinton).

on one side is Trump speaking out against the new world order at the presidential inauguration
vs clinton who is regularly seen greeting everyone at the entrance to bilderberg.
Trump largely relying on his own money to fund his campaign
vs clinton who accepted major cash from soros (profited $42m from the vegas attacks), weinstein (pedophile #3 she received major support from past year), facebook, even spielberg.

cfr president, nfl, nba all on the attack vs Trump because he emphasizes i) illegal mexican immigration and the consequences of it (the border states in the south know this firsthand prob why the racism card didn't work that well in those states) ii ) didn't escalate the feud with Russia (if you knew anything about history you'd know that every US president in the 20th century worked hard to calm relations with Russia.

black lives matter ? you gonna blame the police/flag/george washington himself for what's going on ? - glad Trump didn't cave in and declare the US and its history 'racist'. violence involving blacks is up across the board ! consider that more whites are killed by blacks than blacks by whites and the position becomes tenuous. the nfl showed little if any interest in supporting the troops during 9/11 in fact it was even said that it forbid players from doing so, but now they are all for standing up for a cause ?

climate change ? that's just as ambiguous as the other word lefties like to use, "evolution". please define what you mean when you say Trump isn't doing enough.. or just say it out.. you want climate scientists who believe man is to blame for ALL weather that isn't consistent with their models where "perfection=human-free", to dictate how taxes are levied, carbon caps, who is allowed to emit, laws that will ultimately lead to questions regarding population control. the epa bankrupted yes bankrupted the entire coal industry under obama. I know because I followed the ups and downs of $10+ billion companies like alpha natural resources, most of them didn't make it. then there's the fact that the sun is doing some strange things - and anomalies are happening on planets systemwide.

and to the people comparing trudeau to Harper : you're out to lunch ! Harper was regularly requested for by Merkel in private meetings for his take on various issues, his opinion held a lot of weight and did make a difference on more than one occasion (israel and the 7 day war border line). trudeau is the laughing stock of meetings, he is not interested in balancing the budget in a way that benefits canadians (spend first then make up the difference by increasing taxes). harper made it difficult for companies to be taken over by foreign entities, with trudeau it's a free for all. in fact the biggest companies harper let go are in oil and gas. that didn't turn out so bad did it ?
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Post#133 » by Fairview4Life » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:10 pm

Lol.
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Post#134 » by UcanUwill » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:15 pm

You really have to have stupid courage to still defend Trump.
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Post#135 » by hankscorpioLA » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:19 pm

The Big O 44 wrote:
smallgains wrote:There hasn't been a real president for decades....they are just public figure heads. The real job is done by boards, think tanks, lawyers and intelligence services. I find it laughable that people think otherwise.

mainly the men who control the federal reserve which is the central banking system for the most powerful country in the world are the ones who pull the strings; among them the elite wealthy top one percent like the Rothschild and Rockefeller. They control many industries such as the media and will do anything to preserve their interests, even if it means **** everyone else over. They give money to the politician of their choosing and they are the biggest lobbyists and special interest groups ever.

That's why many presidents end up being puppets, because if they refuse they will end up like JFK or Lincoln.


It's cute that you think JFK was assassinated.

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Post#136 » by ATLTimekeeper » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:21 pm

I'm really just interested in seeing endo and canguy figuring out how they both ended up carrying Trump's water in this :lol:
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Post#137 » by Fairview4Life » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:22 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:I'm really just interested in seeing endo and canguy figuring out how they both ended up carrying Trump's water in this :lol:


Maybe if "Eric" Snowden hadn't gone silent, we could figure it out.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#138 » by Badonkadonk » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:29 pm

RaptorsJunkie wrote:
Kabookalu wrote:
Ramed Nazored wrote:
I really question how relevant Trump is to discussions concerning Toronto Raptors basketball. It's not like arguing about Trump on our board is doing anything other than politicizing a space intended to be used as respite from the day-to-day grind. It's your prerogative though, so do as you wish. I'm just offering up my opinion.


Even if it's a different league he went after NFL athletes who knelt during the anthem calling them sons of a bitches. Like the NBA a lot of NFL athletes are black and share similar views towards the police brutality of black men in this country. Trump completely politicized a major social issue and forced it to be relevant by spitting in their faces on what they want to stand up for. And it's relevant for the Raptors in a tangible way since they're avoiding staying at his overpriced hotels.

They are disrespecting the country and the soldiers that fought for everything that they have today. I think it makes complete sense to call them sons of bitches. It doesn't matter if they believe they are not disrespecting the soldiers or their fellow Americans, they are. It's similar to pissing on soldiers graves and claiming it actually represents something else. All they need to do is find a different way to voice their concerns.

It takes a feeble mind to believe this. Take a moment to read this Green Beret's perspective:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21003968/nfl-2017-ex-green-beret-nate-boyer-writes-open-letter-president-donald-trump-colin-kaepernick-nfl-united-states-america.

Pertinent quote:

That's how it all started with Colin and I, neither of us knew that kneeling would be the result of our conversation. Colin wanted to sit, I wanted him to stand, and so we found a common ground on a knee alongside his teammates. I believe that progress and real change happens in this world when you reach across the divide, you build a bridge, you swallow your pride, you open your mind, you embrace what you don't understand, and ultimately you surrender.


So congratulations on falling for 45's narrative. It's no wonder he's managed to twist the conversation.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#139 » by C Court » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:05 pm

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....you have independents like ...... Alex Jones ........who at the very least do their own research to back up their positions.


Please share with us the independent research that Alex Jones did to determine that the Sandy Hook school massacre never happened and which supports his claim that the killing of all those little children and teachers was entirely fake and fabricated by the US government.
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Post#140 » by canguy20m » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:25 pm

person A becomes president
during his term the country loses
- space program
- panama canal
- control of the internet
- control of iraq
- petrodollar status (saudi arabia is not on board)
- relationship with israel
- status as the largest economy ppp gdp
- #1 trading nation with most number of countries (to china)
- all their seed companies (monsanto takeover by bayer)
- some say over the development of genetically modified crop (monsanto/bayer now based in eu)
- control of their theaters (amc, carmike, odeon to China)
- distinction of having the fastest supercomputer (no more)
- largest grocery industry (china is #1 by total spending)
- last television manufacturer (vizio)
- chubb corp, aon and other market movers
- much of their semiconductor industry (takeovers mean the technology goes to china)
- some of its energy independence (no keystone, no coal, carbon tax on oil, gas, shale means competitive advantage for foreign producers)

in comes president B emphasizing the need for protectionist measures.
the people : why ?

and another question : Jane Fonda (champion of women's rights) said she regrets not saying anything about weinstein all these years. just months ago all those actors and actresses voicing concern praised polanski. in fact in the 1990's they lobbied for his release from France and charges of pedophelia dropped. how do they have any credibility ?

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