The 2017 Dodgers WORLD SERIES!!! Thread

Neddy · Post #901 » by **Neddy** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:03 am

haha they are pitching around Puig like if he was Bonds. but he may very well be for this post season!

Neddy · Post #902 » by **Neddy** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:04 am

man, Puig is on and Ethier is at bat... come on! let's go!

Ranma · Post #903 » by **Ranma** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:09 am

Neddy wrote:I still think Logan was better than average at spotting talent, but I do agree in terms of developing them, we have been struggling during McCourt's era. but is it really our staff's fault or more of Frank the MoFo pulling out the rug under our own staff? he was cutting scouts left and right, and giving up entirely on international scouting. at one point we had regional scouts covering dozen states alone. I can't imagine just what kind of cut rate coaches he had hired that were in charge of talent development in the minors in those days.

I'm certainly not blaming White for the lack of resources in our developmental system. Even before McCourt, we were not known to spend lavishly on our minor leagues under the O'Malleys or even Fox. We were definitely players in the international market,
but like you said, McCourt just cheaped out to extremes once he took over. To be fair, the Guggenheim Baseball Group has invested money and resources very few MLB teams can compete with.

The thing about White was that he had a certain profile in mind when he drafted players, which I agreed with for the early draft picks but that seemed to hinder finding gems in the later rounds and particularly with position players. We rarely had notable homegrown athletic outfielders develop who weren't signed as international prospects. Matt Kemp stood out because he was such a rarity for the organization. Maybe White knew it was a lost cause with our lack of developmental acumen and resources back then.

Post #904 » by **Kilroy** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:11 am

Why's Utley in the lineup again?

Ranma · Post #905 » by **Ranma** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:13 am

Yeah, Chase has looked overmatched in both at-bats in this game as well as in Game 2.

Neddy · Post #906 » by **Neddy** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:15 am

Ranma wrote:
Neddy wrote:I still think Logan was better than average at spotting talent, but I do agree in terms of developing them, we have been struggling during McCourt's era. but is it really our staff's fault or more of Frank the MoFo pulling out the rug under our own staff? he was cutting scouts left and right, and giving up entirely on international scouting. at one point we had regional scouts covering dozen states alone. I can't imagine just what kind of cut rate coaches he had hired that were in charge of talent development in the minors in those days.

I'm certainly not blaming White for the lack of resources in our developmental system. Even before McCourt, we were not known to spend lavishly on our minor leagues under the O'Malleys or even Fox. We were definitely players in the international market,
but like you said, McCourt just cheaped out to extremes once he took over. To be fair, the Guggenheim Baseball Group has invested money and resources very few MLB teams can compete with.

The thing about White was that he had a certain profile in mind when he drafted players, which I agreed with for the early draft picks but that seemed to hinder finding gems in the later rounds and particularly with position players. We rarely had notable homegrown athletic outfielders develop who weren't signed as international prospects. Matt Kemp stood out because he was such a rarity for the organization.

there were a few that did pan out elsewhere. Scott Schebler is one, the returnee Franklin Gutierrez is another. but yeah in terms of a super star caliber, Kemp was it for like a decade or longer.

Neddy · Post #907 » by **Neddy** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:17 am

Kilroy wrote:Why's Utley in the lineup again?

lack of better option. as soon as the Cubs bring in a lefty reliever to counter our right handed heavy front half, we will counter with Granderson (yuck) and Logan Forsythe.

Neddy · Post #908 » by **Neddy** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:19 am

what a BS hit by Russell.

Ranma · Post #909 » by **Ranma** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:19 am

Neddy wrote:there were a few that did pan out elsewhere. Scott Schebler is one, the returnee Franklin Gutierrez is another. but yeah in terms of a super star caliber, Kemp was it for like a decade or longer.

I was thinking of Raul Mondesi but he was an international signing. The other notable player I recall we missed out on was Paul Konerko, who seemed like the heir apparent to Eric Karros before doing well with the White Sox.

Ranma · Post #910 » by **Ranma** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:21 am

Read on Twitter

Neddy · Post #911 » by **Neddy** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:21 am

Ranma wrote:
Neddy wrote:there were a few that did pan out elsewhere. Scott Schebler is one, the returnee Franklin Gutierrez is another. but yeah in terms of a super star caliber, Kemp was it for like a decade or longer.

I was thinking of Raul Mondesi but he was an international signing. The other notable player I recall we missed out on was Paul Konerko, who seemed like the heir apparent to Eric Karros before doing well with the White Sox.

well we had Paul K and we knew he was good. it was Tommy who was being loyal to EK giving him a life time contract that triggered that trade, but we wasn't an OF.... at least i thought we were talking exclusively about OFers.

Neddy · Post #912 » by **Neddy** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:22 am

TERRIBLE WALK, but it's the pitcher. DONT GIVE UP A HIT TO A PITCHER

Post #913 » by **Kilroy** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:25 am

Yu looks good... But they seem to understand him pretty well. Hope he can stay in a while longer.

Neddy · Post #914 » by **Neddy** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:26 am

Yu is through 4 innings with 56 pitch count. he should be good for two more innings easy.

on the other hand, he is facing the lineup for the third time from the leadoff spot to start the next inning. this will be tough.

I would start the bullpen now. knowing Jansen/Maeda/Morrow are now the last 3 inning guys with Watson and Cingrani being potential add ons or spot relievers if we include the 6th, Field should be warming up along with one of the Tonys just in case.

Ranma · Post #915 » by **Ranma** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:26 am

Neddy wrote:well we had Paul K and we knew he was good. it was Tommy who was being loyal to EK giving him a life time contract that triggered that trade, but we wasn't an OF.... at least i thought we were talking exclusively about OFers.

We were. I forgot to mention that in my post as I got distracted by news of the Gordon Hayward injury. Yikes.

Neddy · Post #916 » by **Neddy** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:28 am

Ranma wrote:
Neddy wrote:well we had Paul K and we knew he was good. it was Tommy who was being loyal to EK giving him a life time contract that triggered that trade, but we wasn't an OF.... at least i thought we were talking exclusively about OFers.

We were. I forgot to mention that in my post as I got distracted by news of the Gordon Hayward injury. Yikes.

huh? that pretty boy is hurt? well I will read about that after this game.

Neddy · Post #917 » by **Neddy** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:29 am

haha and here he is, Joc with a lead off double!

Neddy · Post #918 » by **Neddy** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:29 am

time for a bunt, Yu!

Ranma · Post #919 » by **Ranma** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:29 am

Joc flips us all the finger by doubling to lead off the top of the 5th inning. Way to show us, young fella.

Ranma · Post #920 » by **Ranma** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:32 am

Chris Taylor is killing it with an aggressive triple to score Pederson after Rizzo ably fielded that pretty well-placed bunt by Darvish. That's what I'm talking about, Dodgers!