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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#221 » by elmer_yuck » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:30 am

YogiStewart wrote:
elmer_yuck wrote:
So even Paul Ryan is an idiot, cruel, and a liar.
Isn't it interesting that liberals are incapable of having a political discussion without insulting the other side.
Instead of spewing out nonsense, try stepping outside your liberal bubble. You might learn something.
I know you think Fox News is for knuckle-dragging idiots, so try RealClearPolitics.
You can read thoughtful articles on issues from both sides. Maybe you'll discover that Paul Ryan isn't a cruel, evil idiot, and he
has good reasons for his views, even if you don't agree with them.


listen...i stated reasons why i think he's cruel, and idiot and a liar. you didn't refute it.
if you want to delve into a political discussion, i won't continue to do it here. this is a basketball forum. but just a tip for you: if you are debating, stay on track and don't use a tangent or point a finger at your opposing view unless you back your opinion with some facts. otherwise, you're not arguing.


Actually you didn't state reasons, you just made an outlandish claim.
But I do agree that this is not the best place to have a political discussion.
Sometimes I can't resist, I get a kick out of reading some of the silliness here.
I'll go back to complaining about too many 3 pointers.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#222 » by TooBad » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:31 am

YogiStewart wrote:
elmer_yuck wrote:
So even Paul Ryan is an idiot, cruel, and a liar.
Isn't it interesting that liberals are incapable of having a political discussion without insulting the other side.
Instead of spewing out nonsense, try stepping outside your liberal bubble. You might learn something.
I know you think Fox News is for knuckle-dragging idiots, so try RealClearPolitics.
You can read thoughtful articles on issues from both sides. Maybe you'll discover that Paul Ryan isn't a cruel, evil idiot, and he
has good reasons for his views, even if you don't agree with them.


listen...i stated reasons why i think he's cruel, and idiot and a liar. you didn't refute it.
if you want to delve into a political discussion, i won't continue to do it here. this is a basketball forum. but just a tip for you: if you are debating, stay on track and don't use a tangent or point a finger at your opposing view unless you back your opinion with some facts. otherwise, you're not arguing.


Yeah.. can real gm just get a dedicate politics page and keep this stuff away from sports (even if it has ties to sports)?
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#223 » by Fairview4Life » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:33 am

That's great, but I'm gonna still go with the frigging bar association's opinion of the law that says that at most, intentionally and repeatedly misgendering someone could be cause for a harassment investigation. Which sure sounds like it might be harassing behaviour to me.
9. Similarly, IF THOU HAST SPENT the entire offseason predicting that thy team will stink, thou shalt not gloat, nor even be happy, shouldst thou turn out to be correct. Realistic analysis is fine, but be a fan first, a smug smarty-pants second.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#224 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:36 am

TooBad wrote:
YogiStewart wrote:
elmer_yuck wrote:
So even Paul Ryan is an idiot, cruel, and a liar.
Isn't it interesting that liberals are incapable of having a political discussion without insulting the other side.
Instead of spewing out nonsense, try stepping outside your liberal bubble. You might learn something.
I know you think Fox News is for knuckle-dragging idiots, so try RealClearPolitics.
You can read thoughtful articles on issues from both sides. Maybe you'll discover that Paul Ryan isn't a cruel, evil idiot, and he
has good reasons for his views, even if you don't agree with them.


listen...i stated reasons why i think he's cruel, and idiot and a liar. you didn't refute it.
if you want to delve into a political discussion, i won't continue to do it here. this is a basketball forum. but just a tip for you: if you are debating, stay on track and don't use a tangent or point a finger at your opposing view unless you back your opinion with some facts. otherwise, you're not arguing.


Yeah.. can real gm just get a dedicate politics page and keep this stuff away from sports (even if it has ties to sports)?


viewforum.php?f=69
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#225 » by TooBad » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:39 am

Johnny Bball wrote:
TooBad wrote:
YogiStewart wrote:
listen...i stated reasons why i think he's cruel, and idiot and a liar. you didn't refute it.
if you want to delve into a political discussion, i won't continue to do it here. this is a basketball forum. but just a tip for you: if you are debating, stay on track and don't use a tangent or point a finger at your opposing view unless you back your opinion with some facts. otherwise, you're not arguing.


Yeah.. can real gm just get a dedicate politics page and keep this stuff away from sports (even if it has ties to sports)?


viewforum.php?f=69


They should just shut all these down then...a lot of ppl watch sports to get away from this stuff.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#226 » by Fairview4Life » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:45 am

TooBad wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
TooBad wrote:
Yeah.. can real gm just get a dedicate politics page and keep this stuff away from sports (even if it has ties to sports)?


viewforum.php?f=69


They should just shut all these down then...a lot of ppl watch sports to get away from this stuff.


......seems a little off brand to want to shut down some speech my dude.
9. Similarly, IF THOU HAST SPENT the entire offseason predicting that thy team will stink, thou shalt not gloat, nor even be happy, shouldst thou turn out to be correct. Realistic analysis is fine, but be a fan first, a smug smarty-pants second.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#227 » by TooBad » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:12 am

Fairview4Life wrote:
TooBad wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
viewforum.php?f=69


They should just shut all these down then...a lot of ppl watch sports to get away from this stuff.


......seems a little off brand to want to shut down some speech my dude.


I meant to move them to the politics forum not shut down. I came here for some basketball and ended talking about politics for 45 min. Trump isn't even worth talking about, in fact if everyone stfu about him prior to the election he wouldn't have won.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#228 » by RaptorHooter » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:51 am

I watch sports to escape the reality of this world, however F*** Trump and go Raps!
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#229 » by Ponchos » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:40 am

TooBad wrote:
Johnny Bball wrote:
TooBad wrote:
Yeah.. can real gm just get a dedicate politics page and keep this stuff away from sports (even if it has ties to sports)?


viewforum.php?f=69


They should just shut all these down then...a lot of ppl watch sports to get away from this stuff.



The Raps board has always been very tolerant of off-topic and political discussions. It's pretty obvious which threads to avoid if you don't want to talk about politics. You can decide not to click on threads that have "Trump" in the name, and instead pass the time by worrying about which gender is oppressing you.

This is a you problem. To quote the great 45th President of the USA: "[You] knew what [you] signed up for."
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#230 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:49 am

elmer_yuck wrote:If a celebrity puts his money and time and courage on the line, and runs for political office, then of course their opinions are news.
Otherwise, Pop's opinions about politics are as relevant as GreatWhiteStiff's, StolenIdentity's, ozzykhan16's, Fairview4Life's, ATLTimeKeeper's, OakleyDokely's, and Lena Dunham's. They're entitled to their opinions, (even if they're wrong), but their opinions aren't news.


You don't understand what news is. What's left to debate here?
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#231 » by smallgains » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:47 am

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
smallgains wrote:There hasn't been a real president for decades....they are just public figure heads. The real job is done by boards, think tanks, lawyers and intelligence services. I find it laughable that people think otherwise.


Trump is pushing stuff through with his agenda (or trying to). I think its laughable to say he's had no effect on anything.

He isn't pushing anything other than his script.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#232 » by Harold_and_Kumar » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:54 am

TooBad wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:
TooBad wrote:
They should just shut all these down then...a lot of ppl watch sports to get away from this stuff.


......seems a little off brand to want to shut down some speech my dude.


I meant to move them to the politics forum not shut down. I came here for some basketball and ended talking about politics for 45 min. Trump isn't even worth talking about, in fact if everyone stfu about him prior to the election he wouldn't have won.


Lol. Dude. The topic had Trump in the name. What did you expect to find on page 12 (or whatever it is) of a "Raps Stiff Trump" thread? You made a choice to come in here and discuss the topic on multiple occasions, so this escapism argument you're peddling is silly.

You wanted to share your view and others pushed back on them and maybe both sides will think about yhe discussion in the shower and if someone made good points they'll slightly alter their worldview. If everyone discussed topics more there's be less ignorance. There'd still be ignorance don't get me wrong, just less assuredness.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#233 » by Harold_and_Kumar » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:18 pm

elmer_yuck wrote:
YogiStewart wrote:
elmer_yuck wrote:
So... can you name me any Republicans or conservatives who aren't idiots?
Sounds like people you agree with are intelligent, and those you disagree with are idiots.
Is Paul Ryan an idiot? Is Maxine Waters an idiot?

well, no.
an idiot would be an intelilgent person like Paul Ryan, who wants to systematically destroy healthare access and will lie through his teeth to do what is an explicable and cruel act.
Hitler was intelligent but he was an idiot.


So even Paul Ryan is an idiot, cruel, and a liar.
Isn't it interesting that liberals are incapable of having a political discussion without insulting the other side.
Instead of spewing out nonsense, try stepping outside your liberal bubble. You might learn something.
I know you think Fox News is for knuckle-dragging idiots, so try RealClearPolitics.
You can read thoughtful articles on issues from both sides. Maybe you'll discover that Paul Ryan isn't a cruel, evil idiot, and he
has good reasons for his views, even if you don't agree with them.


I think Paul Ryan is an intelligent, pragmatic thinker who knows that his support base is fiscally conservative and deeply religious and so naturally he is going to be in that camp regardless of any personal beliefs he has. To be a politician in the US today means you're enslaved to corporate America in some way and due to his religious predilections he's also enslaved to the religious nutjobs. That's two big strikes for me to begin.

As a classic liberal free market Republican I reckon he's even more enslaved to corporations as hes in the anti-regulation camp. They have common interests and I'm sure exploit each other for common gain. In fact this is my biggest problem with the Republican party as a whole (not that I think the democrats are much better on the whole), as the nature of their political views and every politicians need for power/influence - they are particularly aligned with business and their interests. Ironically, maintaining a sort of corporatocracy he wouldn't like as a free market capitalist.

To connect the dots a bit here, the stated goal of any business is to make profit. And the best way of doing so is to ensure that wages are low. Essentially most politicians, and all Republicans, are so enmeshed with business that they are unable to do what's right for the people they serve. The democrats get closer economically and much closer socially so I see them as less reprehensible. Ultimately anyone who is willingly complicit in seeing people struggle in order to maintain power is somewhere in the evil camp in my eyes.

All in all thats why I dislike Paul Ryan and the Republican party (and I didn't even touch on their backwards thinking of social issues). Frankly, it goes against my own economic interests and social sympathies to support them.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#234 » by MoneyBall » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:27 pm

Centre Court wrote:Coach Pop telling the truth about Trump.

Read on Twitter

More jet fuel for Trump.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#235 » by Senbonzakura » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:39 pm

elmer_yuck wrote:If a celebrity puts his money and time and courage on the line, and runs for political office, then of course their opinions are news.
Otherwise, Pop's opinions about politics are as relevant as GreatWhiteStiff's, StolenIdentity's, ozzykhan16's, Fairview4Life's, ATLTimeKeeper's, OakleyDokely's, and Lena Dunham's. They're entitled to their opinions, (even if they're wrong), but their opinions aren't news.


Yeah it's only important for you if they're espousing racist or xenophobic ideas. No different than any other Trumper out there.
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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#236 » by canguy20m » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:53 pm

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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#237 » by canguy20m » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:18 am

MoneyBall wrote:
Centre Court wrote:Coach Pop telling the truth about Trump.

Read on Twitter

More jet fuel for Trump.


knight for trump

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Re: Raps Stiff Trump 

Post#238 » by Ponchos » Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:53 am

canguy20m wrote:
MoneyBall wrote:
Centre Court wrote:Coach Pop telling the truth about Trump.

Read on Twitter

More jet fuel for Trump.


knight for trump




Regardless of politics, Pop is a great person. Knight is a scumbag.

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