Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 1

[bwgood77]

If i was McD I would definitely trade bledsoe this season. If Denver is biting, Bledsoe for Gary Harris sounds nice because we badly need shooting. More can be added on both sides to make the deal more enticing, but I think a Booker/Harris backcourt would be pretty scary, both players compliment eachother nicely.

I think there is pretty much zero chance they would trade Harris for Bledsoe. As much passing as their frontcourt provides, I think they feel pretty good with Murray at PG. Enough to let Jameer Nelson go who was a solid vet pg who shot over 38% from 3.

I don't even know who might trade for him. I think I saw Lowe mention the Bulls as a possibility. I don't think we'd get much back for him. I'd easily do the Brogdon trade too if they'd do it (though there would need to be filler). Not because Brogdon is a better player individually but because I think he is a smarter player and the team would play better (or at least develop better) with him, and so we could just move on and avoid the Rich Paul thing. I'm just tired of watching him jack up dumb shots after dribbling the ball for 10 seconds with a defender on him. He usually dribbles a bunch of time off the clock not moving after he preserves clock by letting the ball roll for awhile out of bounds. It all just looks clueless.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Good post BW.

On Chriss specifically to me it's plain and simple he needs to grow the **** up and quickly. He needs to capitalize on every minute he has on the court regardless if he starts or comes off the bench.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Good post BW.

On Chriss specifically to me it's plain and simple he needs to grow the **** up and quickly. He needs to capitalize on every minute he has on the court regardless if he starts or comes off the bench.

He needs to finish. He needs to hustle. He needs to hit the glass. He needs to move his feet on defense. He needs to set hard screens and go strong to the basket off the roll.

There's a lot he needs to do.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Good post BW.

On Chriss specifically to me it's plain and simple he needs to grow the **** up and quickly. He needs to capitalize on every minute he has on the court regardless if he starts or comes off the bench.

He needs to finish. He needs to hustle. He needs to hit the glass. He needs to move his feet on defense. He needs to set hard screens and go strong to the basket off the roll.

There's a lot he needs to do.

Totally agree. Of all the things you list every thing except finishing is an effort thing that is very controllable on his part. Take Len as an example his game has warts and some will probably never be cured but honestly I never questioned his effort level.

[JDJ26]

If i was McD I would definitely trade bledsoe this season. If Denver is biting, Bledsoe for Gary Harris sounds nice because we badly need shooting. More can be added on both sides to make the deal more enticing, but I think a Booker/Harris backcourt would be pretty scary, both players compliment eachother nicely.

I think there is pretty much zero chance they would trade Harris for Bledsoe. As much passing as their frontcourt provides, I think they feel pretty good with Murray at PG. Enough to let Jameer Nelson go who was a solid vet pg who shot over 38% from 3.

I don't even know who might trade for him. I think I saw Lowe mention the Bulls as a possibility. I don't think we'd get much back for him. I'd easily do the Brogdon trade too if they'd do it (though there would need to be filler). Not because Brogdon is a better player individually but because I think he is a smarter player and the team would play better (or at least develop better) with him, and so we could just move on and avoid the Rich Paul thing. I'm just tired of watching him jack up dumb shots after dribbling the ball for 10 seconds with a defender on him. He usually dribbles a bunch of time off the clock not moving after he preserves clock by letting the ball roll for awhile out of bounds. It all just looks clueless.

The only team I see willing to trade for Bledsoe would be the Pelicans but they don't have anything the Suns would want. It would have to be a 3 team or more trade.

[bwgood77]

If i was McD I would definitely trade bledsoe this season. If Denver is biting, Bledsoe for Gary Harris sounds nice because we badly need shooting. More can be added on both sides to make the deal more enticing, but I think a Booker/Harris backcourt would be pretty scary, both players compliment eachother nicely.

I think there is pretty much zero chance they would trade Harris for Bledsoe. As much passing as their frontcourt provides, I think they feel pretty good with Murray at PG. Enough to let Jameer Nelson go who was a solid vet pg who shot over 38% from 3.

I don't even know who might trade for him. I think I saw Lowe mention the Bulls as a possibility. I don't think we'd get much back for him. I'd easily do the Brogdon trade too if they'd do it (though there would need to be filler). Not because Brogdon is a better player individually but because I think he is a smarter player and the team would play better (or at least develop better) with him, and so we could just move on and avoid the Rich Paul thing. I'm just tired of watching him jack up dumb shots after dribbling the ball for 10 seconds with a defender on him. He usually dribbles a bunch of time off the clock not moving after he preserves clock by letting the ball roll for awhile out of bounds. It all just looks clueless.

The only team I see willing to trade for Bledsoe would be the Pelicans but they don't have anything the Suns would want. It would have to be a 3 team or more trade.

I can't see the Pelicans doing it since they already have two point guards.

[bwgood77]

Good post BW.

On Chriss specifically to me it's plain and simple he needs to grow the **** up and quickly. He needs to capitalize on every minute he has on the court regardless if he starts or comes off the bench.

He needs to finish. He needs to hustle. He needs to hit the glass. He needs to move his feet on defense. He needs to set hard screens and go strong to the basket off the roll.

There's a lot he needs to do.

Totally agree. Of all the things you list every thing except finishing is an effort thing that is very controllable on his part. Take Len as an example his game has warts and some will probably never be cured but honestly I never questioned his effort level.

Well he also needs to learn not to foul. 5 fouls in 12 minutes is a bit ridiculous when you don't really play defense anyway.

[Synyster9]

I honestly didn't have much expectation for the suns coming into this season. I would be happy with another top 5 pick and the young players growing and progressing together. I want this team to become a family and just enjoy playing basketball together, more wins will come with that.

I'm indifferent on if the suns should trade Bledsoe, he's still pretty young and by the time we're competitive could be a strong veteran presence on the team especially since he's been here leading the suns for years at that point. If they trade him, they would be able to get some decent assets back for him as i believe he will be a top 8-9 PG in this league by the end of the year.

We aren't going to look good this year because people on this team don't have defined roles. We have a bunch of young players trying to find their niche in the NBA. If you look at the warriors, they have roles, they know what each of their players are going to do on the court. Even with an embarrassment of riches, they have bought into the system and that's what our young players need to do. Buy in and work together and just have fun playing basketball.

[JDJ26]

I think there is pretty much zero chance they would trade Harris for Bledsoe. As much passing as their frontcourt provides, I think they feel pretty good with Murray at PG. Enough to let Jameer Nelson go who was a solid vet pg who shot over 38% from 3.

I don't even know who might trade for him. I think I saw Lowe mention the Bulls as a possibility. I don't think we'd get much back for him. I'd easily do the Brogdon trade too if they'd do it (though there would need to be filler). Not because Brogdon is a better player individually but because I think he is a smarter player and the team would play better (or at least develop better) with him, and so we could just move on and avoid the Rich Paul thing. I'm just tired of watching him jack up dumb shots after dribbling the ball for 10 seconds with a defender on him. He usually dribbles a bunch of time off the clock not moving after he preserves clock by letting the ball roll for awhile out of bounds. It all just looks clueless.

The only team I see willing to trade for Bledsoe would be the Pelicans but they don't have anything the Suns would want. It would have to be a 3 team or more trade.

I can't see the Pelicans doing it since they already have two point guards.

If Davis and Cousins request for Bledsoe they might have no choice.

[Kerrsed]

What happened to Chandler being a "Mentor" to our young bigs?

Chandler was never a soft player, yet Chriss and Bender are tissue soft. I dont see any hard screens or hard fouls or really fighting for rebounds, just complaining from Chriss when things dont go his way and a big "Oh Well" written all over Benders face as he trots back down the court. Chander needs to really lay it in to them during practice, otherwise what use is he? I mean we had trade offers for him, but we put business to the side and instead ASKED him if he wanted to be traded. He said no, that he likes being here and likes being a mentor to the next generation. In my eyes, i havent seen them learning anything from him. And of course he likes being here, he really has no game left, but we are paying him a kings ransom at an advanced age while he still keeps the starting C job, and really has no pressures on him to win, where if on other teams, the expectations would be a lot higher.

Ive said it before and ill say it again, we really need a C.

[WeekapaugGroove]

What happened to Chandler being a "Mentor" to our young bigs?

Chandler was never a soft player, yet Chriss and Bender are tissue soft. I dont see any hard screens or hard fouls or really fighting for rebounds, just complaining from Chriss when things dont go his way and a big "Oh Well" written all over Benders face as he trots back down the court. Chander needs to really lay it in to them during practice, otherwise what use is he? I mean we had trade offers for him, but we put business to the side and instead ASKED him if he wanted to be traded. He said no, that he likes being here and likes being a mentor to the next generation. In my eyes, i havent seen them learning anything from him. And of course he likes being here, he really has no game left, but we are paying him a kings ransom at an advanced age while he still keeps the starting C job, and really has no pressures on him to win, where if on other teams, the expectations would be a lot higher.

Ive said it before and ill say it again, we really need a C.

Because all that **** they spun when they signed him was just that... ****. Chandler has never mentored some young bigs in his career and in fact was a bit of a locker room problem at the end in NY. With that said I'm sure he's a decent guy off the court and one of the few adults around. But you can find a guy like that for a couple mil a year on a one year deal. They didn't need to give him a $50 mil retirement package. Honestly I think the whole notion that players teach other players how to play is SO incredibly over blown. Players play and coaches teach.

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[LukasBMW]

If Chriss had the heart and worth ethic of of PJ Tucker, he'd probably be starting in the all star game this year.

[LukasBMW]

What we do with our roster this year is INCREDIBLY important to our future. We want to be bad enough to get a top 5 pick, YET we don't want to be SO bad that our youngsters get frustrated. We also need to make sure we have vets in the lockerroom THAT WANT TO BE HERE to keep things under control.

Bledsoe looks checked out. Trade him ASAP. Get him to a winning team. Avoid paying him a max contract. Get something in return.

Not sure what to think of with Tyson yet.

Dudley and Sauce need to come back ASAP.

Giving some twilight vets phatty 1 year deals going forward may be the way to go. Keeps our minimum salary met yet doesn't restrict us moving forward, and the vet getting the ridiculous 1 year deal knows that his golden parachute is given to him in exchange for excellent locker room conduct and leadership. "Here Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye: $10 million and $14 million for 1 year! We're going to win 15 games, but we expect you to lead by example. Play hard, show up at practice early. Be positive. No partying/drugs/sluts."

[bwgood77]

The only team I see willing to trade for Bledsoe would be the Pelicans but they don't have anything the Suns would want. It would have to be a 3 team or more trade.

I can't see the Pelicans doing it since they already have two point guards.

If Davis and Cousins request for Bledsoe they might have no choice.

I think he's the last type of pg the Pelicans need. They don't need an iso guy who is a sub par 3 pt shooter taking shots from them...you need a passer. Jrue is a better defender, shooter and passer with more assists and fewer turnovers. The only thing Bledsoe is better at is getting to the line and making free throws and a tad better rebounder

I know some think playing in college 1 year together 9 years ago is a big deal that influences things, but those guys are going to want as many touches as possible so having those passers next to them and not a score first pg likely something they would prefer. If we did trade him there we'd have to take back Jrue. He's got a big contract so we'd have to include someone like Dudley who they'd probably like to have. If he had had good health for the last four years I'd consider it, but I seriously doubt they are going to be looking for another PG or that anyone will demand it.

[bwgood77]

What we do with our roster this year is INCREDIBLY important to our future. We want to be bad enough to get a top 5 pick, YET we don't want to be SO bad that our youngsters get frustrated. We also need to make sure we have vets in the lockerroom THAT WANT TO BE HERE to keep things under control.

Bledsoe looks checked out. Trade him ASAP. Get him to a winning team. Avoid paying him a max contract. Get something in return.

Not sure what to think of with Tyson yet.

Dudley and Sauce need to come back ASAP.

Giving some twilight vets phatty 1 year deals going forward may be the way to go. Keeps our minimum salary met yet doesn't restrict us moving forward, and the vet getting the ridiculous 1 year deal knows that his golden parachute is given to him in exchange for excellent locker room conduct and leadership. "Here Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye: $10 million and $14 million for 1 year! We're going to win 15 games, but we expect you to lead by example. Play hard, show up at practice early. Be positive. No partying/drugs/sluts."

If we do trade Bledsoe and don't get a PG in return, I'd pick up Jameer Nelson to be a good vet to have around. He was around all those Denver young guys who all progressed nicely and started for them most of the year last year. We could use him to start if needed while maybe trying out Ulis or James as starters or trading for someone.

That being said, I doubt they make any rash moves unless we have like 5-7 games like that to start the season.

[thamadkant]

If Suns aren't competing for FAs and wins for that matter... Trade Bledsoe.

He could Knight-ed and lose value or injury... Its a risk because any trades would be near All Star break or when a team gets desperate after the 20 game mark.

Nuggets won't trade Harris or Murray for him.

Pistons or Magic are potential partners. Even Bucks... Brogdon is nice but Bledsoe is an upgrade and seems a better fit with Giannis.. And Bledsoe may work well next to Brogdon and Middleton.

[sunsbum]

I can't go another year watching Bledsoe.

[sunsbum]

On a rare positive note from me, at least we picked up Mike James for pennies on the dollar who is clearly better than Brandon Knight.

[bwgood77]

If Suns aren't competing for FAs and wins for that matter... Trade Bledsoe.

He could Knight-ed and lose value or injury... Its a risk because any trades would be near All Star break or when a team gets desperate after the 20 game mark.

Nuggets won't trade Harris or Murray for him.

Pistons or Magic are potential partners. Even Bucks... Brogdon is nice but Bledsoe is an upgrade and seems a better fit with Giannis.. And Bledsoe may work well next to Brogdon and Middleton.

So if Milwaukee would put him next to Brogdon and Middleton, who would you trade him for?

Also, in theory, the Pistons make sense, but Reggie Jackson just had 8 assists with zero turnovers last night (wonder if that has ever happened with Bled) and shot 50% with 13 pts and 5 rebounds.

But the main thing is rather than deal with KCP and his agent Rich Paul, he just renounced his RFA rights and QO and let him walk out the door. So I doubt he will want Bledsoe.

Looking at the PIston's box score from game 1...Stanley Johnson....yeesh....did play 40 minutes though.. http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400974700

[bigfoot]

Watching the game last night at halftime both Bledsoe and Booker sat on the bench in their warmup suits while all the other players took shots and did layups. There was a empty chair between them and they didn't talk to each other or any coaches. It really looked weird to me. Either they are both injured or something else was going on. They both started the second half. Just don't understand why those two wouldn't be out there with their teammates.

It's time to pull a Knight with Bledsoe and bench his azz. Promote Ulis and James.