The Steve Clifford Thread 3.0

[Braggins]

5% chance he survives this season. High payroll and a weak conference and he still cant make us a playoff contender?

He just doesn't get it. This team cannot score unless we start going much smaller.

Its going to take a lot for MJ to fire him. MJ loves his old school attitude and they both believe in the same 80's/90s basketball cliches.

Cliff just isn't right for the league anymore or this roster. I feel the talent is here but he isn't the one to put it together in a competitive enough manner.

No idea who is out there as a possible replacement, though. Any ideas who you'd all like to see get a shot?

I wanted us to go after Mike Malone when he was available a couple years ago. I'd be down to give Silas a shot as interim coach.

[LofJ]

Silas is going to get an NBA head coach job in the near future, if we gave the job to anyone else we'd be making a huge mistake.

[SeanBobcats]

I'm also on the Silas train if we have to go in a different direction than Cliff. I was a proponent of hiring Silas before we hired Cliff

[fatlever]

You guys know our next head coach will be some re-tread, conservative, old-school, defense first guy, right?

[LofJ]

You guys know our next head coach will be some re-tread, conservative, old-school, defense first guy, right?

Silas was a finalist to become Houston's head coach and the Warriors also wanted him to be their head assistant, if that doesn't tell this organization that he deserves first crack at the job then they are hopeless.

[yosemiteben]

Just to be clear, the fire Cliff stuff is just residual and not relating to anything that has happened this season, correct?

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Just to be clear, the fire Cliff stuff is just residual and not relating to anything that has happened this season, correct?

Incorrect.

[fatlever]

Just to be clear, the fire Cliff stuff is just residual and not relating to anything that has happened this season, correct?

Not about this season, yet.

But I think if Cliff doesnt make it out of 1st round (or worse), good chance front office tries a new direction. 5 year w/out making it to 2nd round, is more time than most coaches get, right or wrong.

Personally, I'm heading in the direction of wanting change, unless we really take off. I'm just getting tired of Cliff's style of basketball. Too often it leads to really boring basketball imo. I think im ready for something different.

Nothing against silas. I really think he needs a shot, but he's been on the staff for damn near a decade. If front office (and probably new GM) want a fresh start, they will clean house, not hire coach from prev regime.

[Rich4114]

Just to be clear, the fire Cliff stuff is just residual and not relating to anything that has happened this season, correct?

Not about this season, yet.

But I think if Cliff doesnt make it out of 1st round (or worse), good chance front office tries a new direction. 5 year w/out making it to 2nd round, is more time than most coaches get, right or wrong.

Personally, I'm heading in the direction of wanting change, unless we really take off. I'm just getting tired of Cliff's style of basketball. Too often it leads to really boring basketball imo. I think im ready for something different.

Nothing against silas. I really think he needs a shot, but he's been on the staff for damn near a decade. If front office (and probably new GM) want a fresh start, they will clean house, not hire coach from prev regime.

I sit with you on this one. Sometimes it’s just about change and if change is the primary driver then you can’t retain the main assistant and expect anything much different from what we have right now. And this team has been poor offensively it’s entire existence it seems. If we don’t make it back to the playoffs this year and quite frankly into the second round, then more than just the head coach will need to change. It’ll be time to start moving pieces around and deciding on if they want to build around Kemba or not. They will need to start moving guys like Marvin, Batum, Frank, etc. and either get future assets for them or find a way to turn them into a star to pair next to Kemba. It may take parting with important pieces like Cody or a draft pick to do it as well.

But overall, this is a pivotal season for Cliff.

[LofJ]

How do you guys figure that Silas would do things the same way as Clifford? If that were true the Rockets likely wouldn't have considered him as their coach at all. They're all about modern offensive basketball.

[fatlever]

How do you guys figure that Silas would do things the same way as Clifford? If that were true the Rockets likely wouldn't have considered him as their coach at all. They're all about modern offensive basketball.

has more to do with expecting cho gone as well. new gm probably will want "his guy".

best chance for silas would be midseason firing where he took over and team sored after.

[Liver_Pooty]

Would laugh my ass off if Clifford got fired and we hired the wrong Silas, as in Paul.

I'd then jump off a bridge.

[yosemiteben]

Just to be clear, the fire Cliff stuff is just residual and not relating to anything that has happened this season, correct?

Incorrect.

What is the complaint about this season?

[Braggins]

How do you guys figure that Silas would do things the same way as Clifford? If that were true the Rockets likely wouldn't have considered him as their coach at all. They're all about modern offensive basketball.

has more to do with expecting cho gone as well. new gm probably will want "his guy".

best chance for silas would be midseason firing where he took over and team sored after.

I dont know much about Silas, but it seems like hes earned a shot and I dont want us to rush into committing to a long term replacement, so i feel like we dont have much to lose if we give him a go in an interim situation. If he has us playing the same old stale basketball then we go about our coaching search, but if he shows something then we keep him around. Seems like a free roll almost.

[HoopsMalone]

Clifford just never approaches any game differently... like we can be up 20, down 20, even... it's all the same...

You're up a couple baskets on the road vs a good Milwaukee team who looks off with both your backup point guards out with injury.. maybe thats not the game to sit Kemba Walker the entire first half?