Lonzo Watch- 29 points 9 assists 11 rebounds

[Screwston]

So let me get this straight when Westbrook puts up these numbers 29 on 27 shots he gets crucified but Lonzo does it, and its a bounce back? PLEASE not going to say hes a bust or anything like that but...

He shot 44%

USG% vs the Clipps 12
vs the Suns 32

n it showed

[ISayshowmee]

Giannis wears a Bucks uniform, not a Lakers uniform.

Point proven.... I rest my case !!!!!

I don't see how saying that Giannis is more of a "next great one" than Ball is hating.
I mean there's not much to argue here.

There is a long history of hate from the poster I responded to......if you look at his previous posts....then my response to him will make sense.

[inquisitive]

I enjoy watching him. He's pretty smooth.

[Chi town]

That game was like rec league. Awful D and effort on both sides.

[levon]

Lonzo's been a low usage player in UCLA, which is why he was so efficient. He's not gonna be at 32%, but he'll be high usage on the Lakers because nobody else can do anything with the ball worth a damn.

[walk with me]

Lonzo quietly is the most hated player to enter the nba since Lebron James.

Funny thing is he’s like the anti Lebron.

[JellosJigglin]

He had no freedom in the first game, last night he did n he showed up.

he had a green light in game one... Beverly took it away.

No he didn't, the first game he was basically used just to bring the ball up, as soon as would get it pass the halfcourt he had to give it up, n not see it again. Last night he had an absolute freedom

Plus first game had Deng in the starting lineup. That should never, ever happen. Don't know what Luke was thinking.

[ItsThatEasy]

This thread has been amazing to read.

Somehow someway the narrative has shifted to Lonzo HIMSELF being a douche lmao Jesus Christ.

[JellosJigglin]

Lonzo's been a low usage player in UCLA, which is why he was so efficient. He's not gonna be at 32%, but he'll be high usage on the Lakers because nobody else can do anything with the ball worth a damn.

That's the beauty of the way Lonzo plays. Kept telling people that all summer. He isn't going to pound the rock for 20 seconds and dump it off. He gets his assists without really dominating the ball. He's a unique talent in that way and it's why he was an analytics marvel at UCLA. He puts up numbers on a low usage.

But last night he did what the team needed. If he got the free throws he deserved it would've been a 33-36 point game for him. Instead we have box score nerds in here going "29 points on 27 shots heheh *snort*"

[ItsThatEasy]

What's truly amazing to me is how actual problematic fathers like Kyrie's dad fly under the radar yet cause turmoil within the organization and nobody even knows or cares.

LaVar is a show, he's entertainment, he has absolutely no say in anything the Lakers do and by all accounts Lonzo pretty much ignores his basketball advice and just treats him like a father.

Kyrie on the other hand is completely controlled by his father living out his NBA dreams through his son. He's a HUGE reason for Kyrie requesting that trade, he's been causing drama in that locker room from the day Kyrie got drafted.

[ItsThatEasy]

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Man....I love this kid lol his playing style makes stuff like this more acceptable to me tbh.

If he was a hero ball chucker it would be easier to tell him to shut up and hoop but he's a facilitator, a leader in the locker room, a guy who makes other players better.

[bon]

So let me get this straight when Westbrook puts up these numbers 29 on 27 shots he gets crucified but Lonzo does it, and its a bounce back? PLEASE not going to say hes a bust or anything like that but...

One of those players is a rookie

[JellosJigglin]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21096424/los-angeles-lakers-lonzo-ball-goes-one-assist-shy-triple-double-vs-phoenix-suns

When the Suns made a late charge and got within three with 3 minutes, 19 seconds left, Ball scored six of the next eight points for the Lakers in a minute and a half, making three shots with his left hand. He scored on a driving left-handed scoop shot in traffic, another left-handed drive and score over Tyson Chandler and then a driving left-handed layup. In between those baskets, he pushed the ball up court to Kyle Kuzma, who drove in for a layup.

"This happened before," Ball said of him getting off to slow starts and people labeling him after a poor game. "It happened in summer league. It's happened before in my career. So, I am used to it.

"I know everybody is going to say everything game by game, so if I play bad on Sunday, it is going to go right back to he's a bust. It doesn't matter to me, I just come out and play as hard as I can to get my team wins."

[JellosJigglin]

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Lavar is hilarious . I love that Lavar only talks about getting wins and doesn't care about the stats. He's basically just a hype man who loves his sons.

[Ramed Nazored]

Did anyone even watch the game? There was no one within 15 feet of him when he was shooting 3 pointers. Literally no one moved when he ran a pick and role. Like, Bledsoe and Chandler were literally statues.

If the kid makes it I'll gladly eat crow, but this game doesn't mean ****. As I said, MCW had a near 20 point quadruple double in his NBA debut, how is he doing?

Phoenix will set records in defensive ineptitude this year. So yes, while he had a good game, I wouldn't say it's a fair measure of how dominant he'll be in years to come.

[JellosJigglin]

Did anyone even watch the game? There was no one within 15 feet of him when he was shooting 3 pointers. Literally no one moved when he ran a pick and role. Like, Bledsoe and Chandler were literally statues.

If the kid makes it I'll gladly eat crow, but this game doesn't mean ****. As I said, MCW had a near 20 point quadruple double in his NBA debut, how is he doing?

Phoenix will set records in defensive ineptitude this year. So yes, while he had a good game, I wouldn't say it's a fair measure of how dominant he'll be in years to come.

They look poorly coached tbh. They're better than they've shown. I don't know what they see in Watson. I'm not really the biggest Luke Walton fan either but I think he's done a better job with the talent he has.

[DowJones]

It's a shame a lot of people are blinded by Lavar Ball's antics, because they are missing out on watching a really special player.

I just don't think many people care about the Lakers beyond Ball and hoping he fails because of Lavar. The Lakers as an organization are a mess. They have been awful for 4 straight years and all they have to show for it in terms of young talent is Ball. They will be bad this year and they don't even own their pick. So thst will be 5 years of bad basketball with Ball being the only reward.

LA's only hope is that LeBron decides to use their team to squad-up. Outside of that...yikes.

There are always a lot of eyes on the Lakers. Whether they're great or rebuilding, it doesn't matter. You just need to learn to accept that and a lot of your frustrations will be wiped away. The NBA and the media has a right to serve content to the largest fan base in the league, like it or not. It might irritate you that Lakers fans aren't the "bandwagoners" that you and others wanted to label us as, but regardless we're still here in large numbers.

I am not trying to troll you here but nobody where I live talks about the Lakers. I don't live out West either so I can't comment on that part of the country. All I know is that the Lakers aren't in any way relevant here.

Now if LeBron decides he wants to play for LA next year then that changes. But as of now? The Lakers just don't rate.

[Soulcatcher33]

The Suns are the worst defensive team in the league (besides the lakers) and he still needed 27 shots to get those 29 points.

[Stillwater]

good bounce back game against an inferior defense.Much to the chagrin of the Lackeys, it is not sustainable going by the numbers against any good defense.

Oh so Lonzo can't sustain Westbrook's statline for an entire season in his rookie year? Bust.

Which "Lackey" is even suggesting such a thing?

Westbrook? how does that enter the argument?
A Lackey is someone who supports another person irrationally and everyone that isn't supporting them knows the support is unjustified.
Ball is a rookie like you said, he had a nice bounce back game after getting "owned", unfortunately for you he did it against a bad defensive team and is not at all indicative of how his season will likely go.
But you would not think that was the case by the support he gets from the biased faithful who fear the worse,but preach the opposite.
I couldn't care less what he does,don't hate him. But I also don't think he anywhere close to being the player he has been projected as without significant improvements to almost every aspect of his game besides passing. I would feel the same way if he was a Cav,has nothing to do with support or lack there of for me,because I see clearly without any investment.

[levon]

good bounce back game against an inferior defense.Much to the chagrin of the Lackeys, it is not sustainable going by the numbers against any good defense.

Oh so Lonzo can't sustain Westbrook's statline for an entire season in his rookie year? Bust.

Which "Lackey" is even suggesting such a thing?

Westbrook? how does that enter the argument?
A Lackey is someone who supports another person irrationally and everyone that isn't supporting them knows the support is unjustified.
Ball is a rookie like you said, he had a nice bounce back game after getting "owned", unfortunately for you he did it against a bad defensive team and is not at all indicative of how his season will likely go.
But you would not think that was the case by the support he gets from the biased faithful who fear the worse,but preach the opposite.
I couldn't care less what he does,don't hate him. But I also don't think he anywhere close to being the player he has been projected as without significant improvements to almost every aspect of his game besides passing. I would feel the same way if he was a Cav,has nothing to do with support or lack there of for me,because I see clearly without any investment.

I'm not accusing you of anything personally, but he did just get the best counting statline at that age since Lebron and will most likely get the youngest triple double beating out Lebron's 20 yrs and 20 days, so you might not be looking at it as impartially as you think you are. But I don't care about that and neither does he.

Mostly I was watching his ability to score at all 3 levels last night and he got it. 3-4 times at the rim he floated away from contact and got swatted or threw up a clanker. Once he learns to barrel into the big and shield the ball, those 4 misses turn into 8 free throw attempts. And for all the criticism about him not being able to run the pick n roll or score in the midrange, he was able to utilize crafty floaters and spin move post fades from 8 feet.

Yeah it was lowly competition. Lowe's got the Suns winning 27 this year, was 31 before. But Zo will build up to the competition. Rooks need games like this.