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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#221 » by ivysixer2000 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:41 am

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Skates wrote:The kid is hurting and Colangelo doesn’t want two number one draft picks in a row starting the season unable to play. It isn’t baseball so with a shoulder injury he can do certain motions and movements, but not over head ones and not with any smoothness. The Sixers not hiding an injury would be the bigger surprise. He is super young, fix the problem and bring him back when he is completely healthy, it isn’t like we don’t already have plenty of other guys learning to play with each other. His shot looks literally painful and he did not shoot like that in college or SL. Love the passing vision and handle the kid has, better than I expected, but he isn’t shooting like a healthy player or going up hard with two hands for rebounds. I don’t care if it won’t get any worse physically by playing, he isn’t learning to play like himself and that is hurtful in its own way. Sit him to heal with rehab or do surgery if he needs it, don’t screw with the kid’s mind and future.


I agree with you, but more than a couple people here seem to think that this is an elaborate scheme to hide the embarrassment that he changed his form on his own. So elaborate that they have him shooting left handed layups, doing jump balls lefty, refusing to shoot 3 pointers in practice, shootaround, and all of training camp, and refusing to take any long balls in game situations.

Because the Sixers playing an injured guy is so unheard of, I guess. :roll:


Well those people are just wrong, and want anything to support their agenda. Its obvious he's hurt, I just wish we were smart enough to sit him for a few weeks, course we are talking about the Sixers so they will find something stupid to do.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#222 » by KrazySixersD » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:44 am



just look at his college form, light years better than this current **** our team lets him try
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Post#223 » by KrazySixersD » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:46 am

guys, his form WAS EXACTLY LIKE THIS IN SUMMER LEAGUE, GO LOOK

his college form was different then what he used in summer league and his current jumper looks like it did in summer league

not doubting hes hurt, but he also changed his shot, brown even said this before this whole injury thing

we allowed this as an organization

this team is so pathetic
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#225 » by Skates » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:58 am

KrazySixersD wrote:guys, his form WAS EXACTLY LIKE THIS IN SUMMER LEAGUE, GO LOOK

his college form was different then what he used in summer league and his current jumper looks like it did in summer league

not doubting hes hurt, but he also changed his shot, brown even said this before this whole injury thing

we allowed this as an organization

this team is so pathetic


It is far from hard to believe that for a time he was trying to hide an injury, young, prideful kid, it happens. That might well have been the originating factor especially in the FT shot, but at some point the organization has to recognize and step in and take charge.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#226 » by Eyeamok » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:21 am

I could be totally wrong. But I believe that Fultz is not injured anymore but psychologically he might still be feeling the effects. I've seen this happen before. People come off an injury and still favor the once injured limb, even if they are completely healed.

Secondly Fultz is still a young guy not used to the spotlight. In high school he was not highly regarded and in college his team was a losing team so there was never any really pressure. Now he comes into the NBA and he is the #1 pick overall and expectations are high for him. Perhaps he has never had to rise to expectations before, he has always been that pleasant surprise that came out of nowhere. Like finding $20 in your jeans that you did not even know was there, Fultz has been under the radar. Now he is front and center the pressure might be getting to him. Having him come off the bench and basically baby him, is the best thing that could happen.

Once the 76ers win a few games with or without him, he will want to be a bigger part of the team and that will boost his confidence and help him get back to the player he was supposed to be. But until that time. Baby steps is what is needed here.
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Post#227 » by 76ciology » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:42 am

I’m at the point that I have accepted that he may temporarily shoot like shaq BUT TELL US WHAT THE F HAPPENED.

If its the injury, say it.
If its a late teen crisis, say it.

It’s one thing to expect it and another to have that mystery keeps running to your head on what the F happened
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Post#228 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:43 am

76ciology wrote:I’m at the point that I have accepted that he may temporarily shoot like shaq BUT TELL US WHAT THE F HAPPENED.

If its the injury, say it.
If its a late teen crisis, say it.

It’s one thing to expect it and another to have that mystery keeps running to your head on what the F happened

They said it was an injury, Brown even gave two extensive answers. However, they've lied so much about other stuff that even when they tell us, it still seems like they're lying.
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Post#229 » by 76ciology » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:44 am

Anyway, how can you not see that this kid can be elite at getting to the rim (not include finishing) and playmaking with playing good defense?

Once his shooting is back, defenders wont be able to sag back. Right now when he has the ball, there’s like 3-4 guys ready to go to the paint and block his shot. We’ve seen in with the Celts with Theis and Raps with Ibaka. There were like 3-4 guys jumping to block his shot because THEY ALL KNOW HE WONT SHOOT IT.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#230 » by Eyeamok » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:47 am

76ciology wrote:I’m at the point that I have accepted that he may temporarily shoot like shaq BUT TELL US WHAT THE F HAPPENED.

If its the injury, say it.
If its a late teen crisis, say it.

It’s one thing to expect it and another to have that mystery keeps running to your head on what the F happened


If they tell us it was a teen crisis he is labeled a nutcase and not ready for the rigors of the NBA = No Babies Allowed.

They probably figure keeping things under wraps until he figures things out is for the best.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#231 » by 76ciology » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:47 am

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76ciology wrote:I’m at the point that I have accepted that he may temporarily shoot like shaq BUT TELL US WHAT THE F HAPPENED.

If its the injury, say it.
If its a late teen crisis, say it.

It’s one thing to expect it and another to have that mystery keeps running to your head on what the F happened

They said it was an injury, Brown even gave two extensive answers. However, they've lied so much about other stuff that even when they tell us, it still seems like they're lying.


If its the injury, then explain to us if letting him play would prolong his injury or not.

If letting him rest means no markelle for a month but having a UW markelle for the rest of the season, then that is a more logical decision.

If it makes no difference for him to sit or play, which i believe is the case. Then maybe say it. And more importantly, make a gameplan out of it that doesnt include making him a SG playing with TJ at PG.
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Post#232 » by Eyeamok » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:48 am

76ciology wrote:Anyway, how can you not see that this kid can be elite at getting to the rim (not include finishing) and playmaking with playing good defense?

Once his shooting is back, defenders wont be able to sag back. Right now when he has the ball, there’s like 3-4 guys ready to go to the paint and block his shot. We’ve seen in with the Celts with Theis and Raps with Ibaka. There were like 3-4 guys jumping to block his shot because THEY ALL KNOW HE WONT SHOOT IT.


When he goes to the rim it's like I'm watching Evan Turner all over again.
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Post#233 » by 76ciology » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:52 am

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76ciology wrote:Anyway, how can you not see that this kid can be elite at getting to the rim (not include finishing) and playmaking with playing good defense?

Once his shooting is back, defenders wont be able to sag back. Right now when he has the ball, there’s like 3-4 guys ready to go to the paint and block his shot. We’ve seen in with the Celts with Theis and Raps with Ibaka. There were like 3-4 guys jumping to block his shot because THEY ALL KNOW HE WONT SHOOT IT.


When he goes to the rim it's like I'm watching Evan Turner all over again.


Then make a game plan out of it.

1.) if the lane is clogged, dont force it. (How many times did he force to do a grab and go then attack to the rim with 3-4 defenders jumping at him?)
2.) try a floater (he knows how to do it at SL vs Jazz)
3.) dont allow him to be defended by a wing by not letting him play as a SG (why was he matched-up to Tatum against Celtics?)
4.) surround him with shooters (please no more TJ-Fultz-TLC trio)
5.) learn the art in scoring in the paint like shielding it with his body.(watch IT or DLo)

As a PG, perimeter game should be your primary. Attcking to the rim should be your counter. If you go against the flow, you’ll get F’d up.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#234 » by broseph13 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:52 am

This Fultz situation feels like Evan Turner all over again. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
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Post#235 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:10 am

broseph13 wrote:This Fultz situation feels like Evan Turner all over again. Hopefully, I'm wrong.


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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#236 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:11 am

I didn’t see any quotes from the players after the game. Did the reporters interview them? Did anyone interview Fultz?
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Post#237 » by JojoSlimbiid » Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:16 am

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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#238 » by Wilfried » Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:41 am

broseph13 wrote:This Fultz situation feels like Evan Turner all over again. Hopefully, I'm wrong.


Except Fultz is 2 years younger than when Evan was a rookie.
And Fultz was a +40% shooter in college from 3, on a large amount of tries.

Where Turner in college wasn't even a capable shooter.

There's something wrong now with Fultz his shooting, but nothing that can't be fixed in time.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#239 » by Sicnarf » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:40 am

I don't know what it is happening to Fultz but is really really weird... He is refusing to shoot from long range even when he is wide open and instead goes to rim all the time forcing the situacion a lot... WTH?????

Me no comprende... ;-)
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion II 

Post#240 » by LloydFree » Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:29 am

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LloydFree wrote:In May, I had Fultz #5 on my board... Forget Ball and Jackson and DSJ... I wish they would have listened to Negrodamus and taken Mitchell with the 3rd pick, instead of what they did. Negrodamus for GM. :D


Wel... Mitchell has yet to make a shot tonight, so...

Don't sell yourself short. You watched more college ball than Colangelo this year, obviously...

Colangelo didn't watch any college ball. He's much to busy for that. He read Mike Schmitz and Bodner's scouting reports and concluded Fultz was the best fit, based on their extensive professional scouting background...
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