Markelle Fultz Discussion II

[spikeslovechild]

It's sort of hard to rip Fultz because we ALL know there is something wrong and there is a reason why he is not shooting the ball.

Why can't the CS just be honest with what is going on.

[spikeslovechild]

Here is his college stats via synergy and BR: He shot 41.3 percent from three and 43.8 percent on two-point jumpers. His 1.021 points per dribble jump shot in the half court ranked in the 88th percentile among all college players, and his 1.133 points per catch-and-shoot jump shot in the half court was in the 93rd percentile, per Synergy Sports (via NBA.com). And only 25.5 percent of his field goals last season came at the rim, per Hoop-Math.com.

[Embiid P]

Plain and simple, Fultz shouldn't be playing regardless of the negative PR it will bring to the Sixers organization until he is 100% healthy.

Furthermore, when he is healthy he should be starting so that he can get more open looks by being on the floor with Simmons and Embiid at the same time. If nothing else, it would help him gain more confidence in his jump shot. At this point he can't be any worse than Bayliss, can he?

[JojoSlimbiid]

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[ValvPiti]

I'd much rather have Brown (not digging him so far, feels like he plays those he like over actual talent) just sits Fultz instead of bringing him off the bench as the 10th man. I mean, are you **** kidding me, only the joke that is Anthony Bennett should do that in his rookie year

[CoreyGallagher]

Not as bad I thought.

[Unbreakable99]

Fultz needs to get right. I want to see that dog in him. Either shoot free throws underhanded or sit until he can shoot them like he did in college. Those should be the only options presented to Fultz.

[Negrodamus]

Not as bad I thought.

I agree. He's much better than I expected.

[Gsraider]

Furthermore, when he is healthy he should be starting so that he can get more open looks by being on the floor with Simmons and Embiid at the same time. If nothing else, it would help him gain more confidence in his jump shot. At this point he can't be any worse than Bayliss, can he?

I cannot believe there are people out there that don't believe something is wrong with Fultz, whether physical, mental, whatever. The guy sprained his ankle in the summer league after looking pretty impressive and with zero hesitation before he got hurt. He didn't tear his rotator cuff or blow out his knee or something major that we know of. At that point, not only was a he pretty good outside shooter, but a willing and confident one that shot them whether open or with a man in his face. In fact, it was a staple of his game and what made him such a difficult guard. While his FT's remained inconsistent, it was the same fluid style he always had.

Fast forward to today and Fultz will not shoot a jumper outside of 8' and even then he hesitates. At the FT line, it looks like a kid who is learning to shoot for the first time and not exactly utilizing good form at that. If I didn't know what Fultz looks like and you showed me some film of him lately, I would have no idea it was the same player. A guy who shoots like Shaq at the line and is as willing a shooter from outside as Furkan Aldemir? Yeah, he's just fine.

[mrfantast1c]

At this point I just want them to bench him, so you guys can find someone else to trash. There's plenty of healthy sixers players to choose from. You would think Sixers fans would show empathy because he's our guy.. smh

This thread is a RT Armageddon waiting to happen

I've seen a lot of trashing Bayless, TLC and Amir Johnson. They're our guys. Trashing those guys doesn't seem to bother anyone. If you look like garbage, you get trashed. See Evan Turner and Jahlil Okafor

I agree with this thought process. Where we disagree is that he's clearly injured. I'm withholding my judgement, until he can attempt a jumpshot.. Right now he's like Cell before he absorbs android 16 and 17.. This isn't his final form

[Eyeamok]

Andrew Luck and Markelle Fultz were seen hanging out in Toronto after the game. Lifting drinks with their left hands and having a good time. What gives?

[cksdayoff]

Andrew Luck and Markelle Fultz were seen hanging out in Toronto after the game. Lifting drinks with their left hands and having a good time. What gives?

both special offensive talents with great work ethics. good company to keep

[rzzzzz]

Markelle could lay off the Chic Fillet and consult Vegan Jah about his diet. be good for him regardless, but especially if there's any inflammation going on in that shoulder.

[Eyeamok]

Andrew Luck and Markelle Fultz were seen hanging out in Toronto after the game. Lifting drinks with their left hands and having a good time. What gives?

both special offensive talents with great work ethics. good company to keep

Well played sir. You could also add both of them are not playing for their respective teams. Well one is but not really.

[Mik317]

the most frustrating part of this is that he has been active defensively and getting to the rim at will (getting his **** punched but still)...all he needs is a jumper...WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HIS STRENGTH.

this is bull mayne

[Kobblehead]

I think that's the encouraging part, though. At least, it is for me.

Fultz looks more athletic than I gave him credit for. He's attacking the rim way more than he did at Washington.

I'm a fan of letting scorers develop inside-out. Establish your slashing and then gradually implement a jumper.

[Eyeamok]

You know the more I think about it the more it becomes clear to me this is a psychological issue. When I was 18/19 I was like wolverine, I am sure most of us were. Fall from a tree, get up brush yourself off. Fall off the back of a moving truck, complain about the hole in your favorite jeans not about the hole in your leg, because just like Wolverine that hole would be healed in a day or two, a week max. But what was fragile was the mind and your feelings. Friends laughed at you, that would linger for a while, girlfriend breaks up with you. You'd feel like your whole world was going to end.

Any injury Fultz has should be well on it's way to being healed right now. No injury that does not require surgery should have forced him to change his shooting form. Something or someone got to him and has made him doubt the player he once was. Perhaps the pressure of being in the big league or something else. Maybe his girlfriend broke up with him and punched him in the shoulder and said you will never shoot well again as long as we are apart. And now it's effecting him. Who the hell knows but something is effecting his mind.

[LongLiveHinkie]

You know the more I think about it the more it becomes clear to me this is a psychological issue. When I was 18/19 I was like wolverine, I am sure most of us were. Fall from a tree, get up brush yourself off. Fall off the back of a moving truck, complain about the hole in your favorite jeans not about the hole in your leg, because just like Wolverine that hole would be healed in a day or two, a week max. But what was fragile was the mind and your feelings. Friends laughed at you, that would linger for a while, girlfriend breaks up with you. You'd feel like your whole world was going to end.

Any injury Fultz has should be well on it's way to being healed right now. No injury that does not require surgery should have forced him to change his shooting form. Something or someone got to him and has made him doubt the player he once was. Perhaps the pressure of being in the big league or something else. Maybe his girlfriend broke up with him and punched him in the shoulder and said you will never shoot well again as long as we are apart. And now it's effecting him. Who the hell knows but something is effecting his mind.

Clearly you are not basing this off of experience. It absolutely can.

No amount of self-doubt has a player flat out refusing to ever attempt a 3. He didn't even attempt one in training camp practices. He's not attempting them in shootarounds. If he felt ok, coaches would have forced his ass to stand at the 3 point line in training camp and take jumper after jumper after jumper until he got it right. They aren't even encouraging him to shoot.

If he shot a bunch of them and his shot looked all weird and kept missing them, I may agree, but the fact that he doesn't even look to attempt one even in practices is telling. There's no reason whatsoever to be hesitant to take them in practice. It's not a game. He has nothing to lose.

[eyeatoma]

I think that's the encouraging part, though. At least, it is for me.

Fultz looks more athletic than I gave him credit for. He's attacking the rim way more than he did at Washington.

I'm a fan of letting scorers develop inside-out. Establish your slashing and then gradually implement a jumper.

Well... He's attacking way more often, because that's all he can do now lol... He can't shoot at all haha

[Eyeamok]

You know the more I think about it the more it becomes clear to me this is a psychological issue. When I was 18/19 I was like wolverine, I am sure most of us were. Fall from a tree, get up brush yourself off. Fall off the back of a moving truck, complain about the hole in your favorite jeans not about the hole in your leg, because just like Wolverine that hole would be healed in a day or two, a week max. But what was fragile was the mind and your feelings. Friends laughed at you, that would linger for a while, girlfriend breaks up with you. You'd feel like your whole world was going to end.

Any injury Fultz has should be well on it's way to being healed right now. No injury that does not require surgery should have forced him to change his shooting form. Something or someone got to him and has made him doubt the player he once was. Perhaps the pressure of being in the big league or something else. Maybe his girlfriend broke up with him and punched him in the shoulder and said you will never shoot well again as long as we are apart. And now it's effecting him. Who the hell knows but something is effecting his mind.

Clearly you are not basing this off of experience. It absolutely can.

No amount of self-doubt has a player flat out refusing to ever attempt a 3. He didn't even attempt one in training camp practices. He's not attempting them in shootarounds. If he felt ok, coaches would have forced his ass to stand at the 3 point line in training camp and take jumper after jumper after jumper until he got it right. They aren't even encouraging him to shoot.

If he shot a bunch of them and his shot looked all weird and kept missing them, I may agree, but the fact that he doesn't even look to attempt one even in practices is telling. There's no reason whatsoever to be hesitant to take them in practice. It's not a game. He has nothing to lose.

You are right a prolonged injury can make a person change their shot. But if this is the case then why is he out their playing? If your shoulder hurts so much that you can't shoot, shouldn't you be doing physical therapy, giving the shoulder electrolysis treatments or having a shoulder massage every hour on the hour? The last thing you should be engaged in is an activity that you can't do.

Just the fact that he is out there in uniform playing says the newly revamped medical staff seems to think he is OK physically. They were ultra conservative with Embiid, ultra conservative with Simmons, but now they are going to be slipshod with Fultz, a guy that they spent two high draft picks to get?

Perhaps BC and company said we are going to let you play. But you have to promise us not to shoot until you are 100% deal?