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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#221 » by the_process » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:51 am

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the_process wrote:Bayless, Okafor, and 2018 PHI 2nd for Nikola Mirotic and Jerian Grant.

I wouldn't take Mirotic straight up for Okafor or Bayless. He's trash... just a waste of money. I'd rather just cut Okafor.


Okafor for Grant, and a 2nd for dumping Bayless. Mirotic has a TO for next year, so I was just looking at him as the bad money expiring that makes the trade work. They could waive him right away if need be. Money is almost dead even on this so it doesn’t even affect extending Covington.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#222 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:19 am

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51X3RF4N wrote:Simmons, Fultz, Cov, 3&D Forward, Embiid with TJ/Korkmaz/TLC/Saric/Holmes off the bench.

That should be the future. The question is who fills the F role? Who out there can defend/lockdown the 1-3 spots while being able to consistently hit 3pt shots? Embiid guards the 5, Simmons guards the 4, Covington and the Forward switch off guarding the other teams 2 best guys from 1-3, Fultz takes whoever is left.


Also forgot to mention we should draft Mikal Bridges with our first next year. We badly need another wing and it seems like he’s going to have elite role player potential. Who knows how things end up, but it seems like we could have a decent chance of landing him with our pick (or at least should have the assets to move up to get him). If we don’t end up trading for a wing, this is the route we should go.


That’s who I want. I like Bridges. But our biggest need right now is a wing who can create his own shot and attack the rim.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#223 » by TTP » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:43 am

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51X3RF4N wrote:Simmons, Fultz, Cov, 3&D Forward, Embiid with TJ/Korkmaz/TLC/Saric/Holmes off the bench.

That should be the future. The question is who fills the F role? Who out there can defend/lockdown the 1-3 spots while being able to consistently hit 3pt shots? Embiid guards the 5, Simmons guards the 4, Covington and the Forward switch off guarding the other teams 2 best guys from 1-3, Fultz takes whoever is left.


Also forgot to mention we should draft Mikal Bridges with our first next year. We badly need another wing and it seems like he’s going to have elite role player potential. Who knows how things end up, but it seems like we could have a decent chance of landing him with our pick (or at least should have the assets to move up to get him). If we don’t end up trading for a wing, this is the route we should go.


That’s who I want. I like Bridges. But our biggest need right now is a wing who can create his own shot and attack the rim.


I don’t view additional creation as a need. We already have Simmons, Fultz, Embiid, TJ, and Dario for that (maybe even Furkan in the future as well???). There’s significant diminishing returns to creation when you have a lot of guys that want or need the ball in their hands to be effective.

We need another wing that can defend multiple positions and space the floor. We definitely need one of these guys for when Covington is off the floor. Ideally you have two on the floor as much as possible.

The only other guy on the team that really projects to fit that archetype is TLC. Anderson and Korkmaz are massive longshots for opposite reasons.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#224 » by Kobblehead » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:42 pm

I really want to upgrade T.J. with Spencer Dinwiddie or Jerian Grant. I think we need to improve that 4th guard spot.

Both Dinwiddie and Grant are good enough to limit Bayless' role, as well.
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Post#225 » by the_process » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:06 am

I’m telling ya... Okafor, Bayless, and a 2nd for Mirotic (cut him if you want) and Grant.
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Post#226 » by Kobblehead » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:54 pm

the_process wrote:I’m telling ya... Okafor, Bayless, and a 2nd for Mirotic (cut him if you want) and Grant.

I'd do that deal. Dishing Bayless makes us a lose a legit rotational G, though. So we'd still be playing McConnell 4th G minutes. And if Fultz eventually gets put down to mend a shoulder injury that he may or might not have, we'll really be in trouble because Nik Stauskas gets back into the rotation.
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Post#227 » by smittybanton » Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:50 pm

I like the deals mentioned above. Fan of Jerian Grant. [wish we still had jerami and nerlens]

Suns are a disaster. Eric Bledsoe clearly wants out. Now that we're bringing Fultz along slowly. Bledsoe would be a nice upgrade over Bayless. Neither is a very good one. Better served as a combo player next to Ben.

$15M for this year and next is not terrible. Especially when we'd have to offer Avery Bradley a mint next summer!

If they're selling cheap, we got the spare parts. Good landing spot for TJ McConnell. Played at Arizona, and they need more than anything someone who gives a damn. TJ, TLC, Okafor, Anderson....

Matter of fact, they way we're getting destroyed inside on the second unit, I'd consider taking frickin Tyson Chandler's contract off their hands. I thought we were bringing Amir in to be a stretch four, not a backup five. I don't think he holds up well there, unless its against specific small-ball lineups.

Anyway, forget Tyson Chandler, I think Bledsoe is ripe for the picking.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#228 » by OleSchool » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:00 pm

Have to be careful with any trades cause it might screw up the $ for Roco’s extension
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Post#229 » by smittybanton » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:14 pm

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Post#230 » by aHealthy3 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:15 pm

smittybanton wrote:I like the deals mentioned above. Fan of Jerian Grant. [wish we still had jerami and nerlens]

Suns are a disaster. Eric Bledsoe clearly wants out. Now that we're bringing Fultz along slowly. Bledsoe would be a nice upgrade over Bayless. Neither is a very good one. Better served as a combo player next to Ben.

$15M for this year and next is not terrible. Especially when we'd have to offer Avery Bradley a mint next summer!

If they're selling cheap, we got the spare parts. Good landing spot for TJ McConnell. Played at Arizona, and they need more than anything someone who gives a damn. TJ, TLC, Okafor, Anderson....

Matter of fact, they way we're getting destroyed inside on the second unit, I'd consider taking frickin Tyson Chandler's contract off their hands. I thought we were bringing Amir in to be a stretch four, not a backup five. I don't think he holds up well there, unless its against specific small-ball lineups.

Anyway, forget Tyson Chandler, I think Bledsoe is ripe for the picking.


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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#231 » by Kobblehead » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:47 pm

I'd be lying if I said seeing him request a trade via social media didn't make me lose respect for him and make me apprehensive about bringing him into the organization.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#232 » by the_process » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:19 am

To be fair, the Suns have been publically shopping Bledsoe since the All-Star break last year. And PHX is almost Bulls-level terrible.

I’d gladly do TJ and Okafor for Bledsoe. Even throw in a 2nd or two if they insisted.
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Post#233 » by spikeslovechild » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:27 am

the_process wrote:To be fair, the Suns have been publically shopping Bledsoe since the All-Star break last year. And PHX is almost Bulls-level terrible.

I’d gladly do TJ and Okafor for Bledsoe. Even throw in a 2nd or two if they insisted.


Yep, you have Bledsoe Embiid Simmons plus Fultz and Saric that's going to be attractive to next years crop of max guys. We own Roco bird rights so we could conceivably sign Roco to an extension as well.

We need to show improvement. They have to take Bayless though in any deal.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#234 » by Chris76 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:23 am

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the_process wrote:To be fair, the Suns have been publically shopping Bledsoe since the All-Star break last year. And PHX is almost Bulls-level terrible.

I’d gladly do TJ and Okafor for Bledsoe. Even throw in a 2nd or two if they insisted.


Yep, you have Bledsoe Embiid Simmons plus Fultz and Saric that's going to be attractive to next years crop of max guys. We own Roco bird rights so we could conceivably sign Roco to an extension as well.

We need to show improvement. They have to take Bayless though in any deal.


Bledsoe would be a good addition, he and Redick could be a good combination.

Bayless is a good shooter but too selfish, no assists.
TLC's or Fultz' defense may be more important in the starting 5.

Okafor was a more productive center than Amir, Saric, and probably Holmes.
10 pts., 9rbds, and 2 blocks was a good 1st game, especially he played around the perimeter.
He shouldn't be a throw in, in a trade his value is rising.
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Post#235 » by spikeslovechild » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:49 am

I like Okafor still but Bledsoe is a positive asset and well Bayless even with his good play uptil this point is well not.

Plus lets just be honest here free agents aren't going to consider the sixers unless we get another player and they feel they can contend for a championship. Bledsoe fixes our biggest need right now which is PG.

Bledsoe - Embiid - Simmons - Saric - Fultz - Roco (extension after signing FA) thats a pretty attractive roster to a max FA.
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Post#236 » by the_process » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:13 am

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the_process wrote:To be fair, the Suns have been publically shopping Bledsoe since the All-Star break last year. And PHX is almost Bulls-level terrible.

I’d gladly do TJ and Okafor for Bledsoe. Even throw in a 2nd or two if they insisted.


Yep, you have Bledsoe Embiid Simmons plus Fultz and Saric that's going to be attractive to next years crop of max guys. We own Roco bird rights so we could conceivably sign Roco to an extension as well.

We need to show improvement. They have to take Bayless though in any deal.


Might be hard to get them to eat Bayless without a 1st. Clearly they’re not going to dump him, Sarver is cheap, and their GM will wait to wring every last ounce of value before moving him; remember how he turned garbage into gold with Markieff.

Would you do Okafor, TJ, Bayless, and lotto protected PHI 2018 1st that turns immediately into two 2nds for Bledsoe?
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Post#237 » by Kobblehead » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:20 am

Marquese Chriss is the 4th player off their bench this year. He's the guy I'd go after in a trade with the Suns.
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Post#238 » by spikeslovechild » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:27 am

the_process wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:
the_process wrote:To be fair, the Suns have been publically shopping Bledsoe since the All-Star break last year. And PHX is almost Bulls-level terrible.

I’d gladly do TJ and Okafor for Bledsoe. Even throw in a 2nd or two if they insisted.


Yep, you have Bledsoe Embiid Simmons plus Fultz and Saric that's going to be attractive to next years crop of max guys. We own Roco bird rights so we could conceivably sign Roco to an extension as well.

We need to show improvement. They have to take Bayless though in any deal.


Might be hard to get them to eat Bayless without a 1st. Clearly they’re not going to dump him, Sarver is cheap, and their GM will wait to wring every last ounce of value before moving him; remember how he turned garbage into gold with Markieff.

Would you do Okafor, TJ, Bayless, and lotto protected PHI 2018 1st that turns immediately into two 2nds for Bledsoe?


Sure why not?

Wouldn't you? I mean Bledsoe only makes 14 million this year and 15 million next year. We aren't going to be able to acquire someone of his talents and still fit a 30% max guy any other way. Two 2nd round picks aint much additional value either.
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Post#239 » by the_process » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:23 am

spikeslovechild wrote:
the_process wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:
Yep, you have Bledsoe Embiid Simmons plus Fultz and Saric that's going to be attractive to next years crop of max guys. We own Roco bird rights so we could conceivably sign Roco to an extension as well.

We need to show improvement. They have to take Bayless though in any deal.


Might be hard to get them to eat Bayless without a 1st. Clearly they’re not going to dump him, Sarver is cheap, and their GM will wait to wring every last ounce of value before moving him; remember how he turned garbage into gold with Markieff.

Would you do Okafor, TJ, Bayless, and lotto protected PHI 2018 1st that turns immediately into two 2nds for Bledsoe?


Sure why not?

Wouldn't you? I mean Bledsoe only makes 14 million this year and 15 million next year. We aren't going to be able to acquire someone of his talents and still fit a 30% max guy any other way. Two 2nd round picks aint much additional value either.


Yep, I would do that too. As an added benefit, this deal definitely gets the ball out of Ben’s hands in the half court, which has to force him to learn to shoot at least a little.
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Post#240 » by Sportfan73 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:32 am

the_process wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:
the_process wrote:
Might be hard to get them to eat Bayless without a 1st. Clearly they’re not going to dump him, Sarver is cheap, and their GM will wait to wring every last ounce of value before moving him; remember how he turned garbage into gold with Markieff.

Would you do Okafor, TJ, Bayless, and lotto protected PHI 2018 1st that turns immediately into two 2nds for Bledsoe?


Sure why not?

Wouldn't you? I mean Bledsoe only makes 14 million this year and 15 million next year. We aren't going to be able to acquire someone of his talents and still fit a 30% max guy any other way. Two 2nd round picks aint much additional value either.


Yep, I would do that too. As an added benefit, this deal definitely gets the ball out of Ben’s hands in the half court, which has to force him to learn to shoot at least a little.

I would absolutely do that deal. Don’t think tj has to be in there as that is 3 guys for 1 which is tough to pull off. But I would absolutely give him up if they wanted him


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