Earl Watson FIRED!!!!
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The simple reality is they have the wrong players or coach or both..... and none of that is a good look for McD since he hired the coach and aquired the players.
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For those who want to see what their initial reactions to the hiring were: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1437809#start_here

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batsmasher wrote:For those who want to see what their initial reactions to the hiring were: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1437809#start_here
Best quote I've read yet in that thread....
Saberestar wrote:In his latest interview McDonough said that it was really important to take Watson out of the market because there are a lot of open places for a head coach in the NBA right now. He was loyal to us and he didn't talk with other teams...we wanted to close the deal early in the offseason.
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Watson had one thing that kept him safe in my mind: his players came out and competed for him. That appears to be slowly but surely disappearing as they realize that they're not being put in the position to win games. When Bledsoe got his pocked picked late and it led to a 4-on-1 break against Booker, you could see that everyone just wanted to get off the court. Watson had no control over the team after that moment, and the end of that game was a circus show where we constantly traded missed Ulis/James isolation pull ups for easy lay ups by the Clippers C team. The record shouldn't surprise anyone, but the product we're putting on the floor is unacceptable. We're definitely one of the least developed rosters in the league as far as talent goes, but giving up 128.7 points per game through your first 3 games is a coaching problem, period.
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I didnt think our ball movement and offensive "scheme" could get even worse than it was when we were under Hornacek.
I promise you that we play more team basketball with more screens and ball movement at our weekly pickup scrimmages than under Watson
I promise you that we play more team basketball with more screens and ball movement at our weekly pickup scrimmages than under Watson
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bwgood77 wrote:batsmasher wrote:For those who want to see what their initial reactions to the hiring were: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1437809#start_here
Best quote I've read yet in that thread....Saberestar wrote:In his latest interview McDonough said that it was really important to take Watson out of the market because there are a lot of open places for a head coach in the NBA right now. He was loyal to us and he didn't talk with other teams...we wanted to close the deal early in the offseason.
I like reading the quotes from Watson himself.
Like the one where he talked about how he is stealing a ton of stuff from Coach Pop.

Its also kinda sad to revisit that thread and see all the names of all the posters who we've lost, that just couldnt handle the downs and downs of being a Suns fan in this day and age.
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The Suns have never been known for having a great defense, but I can't remember a Suns team being so bad on offense.
Not one player on the roster even tries to execute a simple pick and roll play. Our offense consists only of one player dribbling the ball and jacking up a shot. There's absolutely no concept of ball movement, screening, and getting open looks. This isn't advanced basketball coaching - as someone pointed out, you see these sort of basic plays being executed even in pick up scrimmages.
Such an inept offense just cannot be permitted at the NBA level.
Not one player on the roster even tries to execute a simple pick and roll play. Our offense consists only of one player dribbling the ball and jacking up a shot. There's absolutely no concept of ball movement, screening, and getting open looks. This isn't advanced basketball coaching - as someone pointed out, you see these sort of basic plays being executed even in pick up scrimmages.
Such an inept offense just cannot be permitted at the NBA level.
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Even fantasy basketball sites are seeing through Earl's lies:

He's feeling that heat and now lying and reaching for excuses.

He's feeling that heat and now lying and reaching for excuses.
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Great defense ? no... but under McLeod we had some teams that played proper D and it was stressed. But that was back in the beat-em-up eighties where physicality was prerequisite for D.
The league/rules shifted towards offense.... the high schools and playgrounds followed
The league/rules shifted towards offense.... the high schools and playgrounds followed
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Watched the Utah - OKC game waiting for Suns game, man what a difference in D.
I think Jazz would be a better defensively if they had to play 4 on 5 than the Suns.
So I'm on that Kokosko/Messina boat and would take anyone with a heartbeat over Watson for the remainder of the season, even Byron Scott
I think Jazz would be a better defensively if they had to play 4 on 5 than the Suns.
So I'm on that Kokosko/Messina boat and would take anyone with a heartbeat over Watson for the remainder of the season, even Byron Scott

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The next game is decisive for Watson. He can be in the hot seat for real this Monday.
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Saberestar wrote:The next game is decisive for Watson. He can be in the hot seat for real this Monday.
Rightfully so. This would be unacceptable in even february, but at the beginning of the season? He lost the team in camp I'm guessing. Or just the veterans, and this is the byproduct of that. I don't know, but I'd love to be a fly on the wall... I guess we'll find out sooner or later - after he is fired I'm sure stories will come up.
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McD never listens to his players. He was always a cold hearted GM.
Seems like he actually did it (hiring Watson w/o any other meetings) to please his guys.
That's why you never listen to them.
Seems like he actually did it (hiring Watson w/o any other meetings) to please his guys.
That's why you never listen to them.
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48. 2. 42. The first shocked me. The second sickened me. But it wasn't until the third that I began to lose hope for the season.
Tick, tock.
Tick, tock.
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Wasn't there a city that started taking out billboard space to promote the firing of their coach or am I imagining things? Regardless, can we start a go fund me to do just that?
Edit: something like this might be cheaper:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/03/08/jeff-bzdelik-wake-forest-fire-newspaper/1973013/
Edit: something like this might be cheaper:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/03/08/jeff-bzdelik-wake-forest-fire-newspaper/1973013/
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Midnight_Suns wrote:Wasn't there a city that started taking out billboard space to promote the firing of their coach or am I imagining things? Regardless, can we start a go fund me to do just that?
Not classy

Earl's a good guy. Leave it to the pros to make the most informed decision.
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cosmofizzo wrote:Midnight_Suns wrote:Wasn't there a city that started taking out billboard space to promote the firing of their coach or am I imagining things? Regardless, can we start a go fund me to do just that?
Not classy
Earl's a good guy. Leave it to the pros to make the most informed decision.
I wouldn't actually participate in getting a billboard for that. I would in the news add. Nothing personal, Earl, I'm just tired of watching the worst professional basketball I've ever seen.
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Gotta say this was pretty good:
https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2017/10/22/16515926/50th-phoenix-suns-team-might-just-be-the-worst-ever
https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2017/10/22/16515926/50th-phoenix-suns-team-might-just-be-the-worst-ever
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Clementine9 wrote:Missed shots are unfortunate, but it's the trends throughout the game that matter.
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