Markelle Fultz Discussion II

Negrodamus · Post #301 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:46 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:You think making up a fake injury to hide something that doesn't need to be hidden is more likely than a team that has been known to screw up injury situations to screw up yet another?

I think it was a convenient excuse at one point while restructuring his jump shot and they have been intentionally vague about it so it seems like it could be the injury. The adjustments he's making really seems in line with an in progress re tinkering of jump shot. Both Brown and Fultz have said that he was working on his shot.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #302 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:50 am

Negrodamus wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:You think making up a fake injury to hide something that doesn't need to be hidden is more likely than a team that has been known to screw up injury situations to screw up yet another?

I think it was a convenient excuse at one point while restructuring his jump shot and they have been intentionally vague about it so it seems like it could be the injury. The adjustments he's making really seems in line with an in progress re tinkering of jump shot. Both Brown and Fultz have said that he was working on his shot.

But they don't need to make an excuse. Why wouldn't they just come out and say they're working on him with his jumper? Why make up an injury to hide it? That's the equivalent of a girl calling you back asking if you wanna go on a second date and instead of just saying no thanks, you make up a story about how you're a serial killer and are going to jail for the rest of your life. It's totally over the top and unnecessary. And to not only mention it, but continue it going, when they know how paranoid fans are in this town with injuries lately, to lie about that would be borderline sadistic.

They were also vague about Embiid's injuries, it's typically what they do with injuries.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #303 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:58 am

Anyway, I'm tired of arguing something that nobody can prove, so I will just say this.

I have seen no indication in any way, shape, or form to indicate that Fultz is this way from following Fultz all the way back in high school... but if he somehow is so mentally fragile that he is literally afraid to shoot not just in games but in practice and shootarounds. So mentally fragile that the team needs to make up pointless excuses to shield him from criticism about his form. So mentally fragile that he can't remember how he shot a mere 2 months ago. Then he is already a bust before his career even starts. No player that mentally fragile could ever have success playing professional sports. It would be an unprecedented level of fragility. I mean even Charles Barkley who has the yips with his golf swing at least goes out and Fing swings.

And that would mean another thing too. That this organization is so petty, so juvenile, and so unprofessional that they would have to concoct an elaborate scheme just to protect a player instead of telling him to man up and get your **** together that I'd honestly consider not watching this team ever again purely out of the sake of being embarrassed to say I root for such an abomination.

I'll leave it at that.

phiphan · Post #304 » by **phiphan** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:59 am

They need an excuse because it's not a good look to have the #1 pick, who they drafted to be a shooter, overhauling his FT form and forgetting how to shoot.

76ciology · Post #305 » by **76ciology** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:03 am

Also need to consider that the team might think Kelle is really good that they think he can be a productive player on court despite not having a decent shooting.

Which is the case..

BTW, he had that left handed floater off a spin move that looked real good. I hope he takes more floaters, use his body more on drives and be smart to pass at open teammates when there are 3-4 guys looking to challenge his shots on transition

Negrodamus · Post #306 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:25 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:You think making up a fake injury to hide something that doesn't need to be hidden is more likely than a team that has been known to screw up injury situations to screw up yet another?

I think it was a convenient excuse at one point while restructuring his jump shot and they have been intentionally vague about it so it seems like it could be the injury. The adjustments he's making really seems in line with an in progress re tinkering of jump shot. Both Brown and Fultz have said that he was working on his shot.

But they don't need to make an excuse. Why wouldn't they just come out and say they're working on him with his jumper? Why make up an injury to hide it? That's the equivalent of a girl calling you back asking if you wanna go on a second date and instead of just saying no thanks, you make up a story about how you're a serial killer and are going to jail for the rest of your life. It's totally over the top and unnecessary. And to not only mention it, but continue it going, when they know how paranoid fans are in this town with injuries lately, to lie about that would be borderline sadistic.

They were also vague about Embiid's injuries, it's typically what they do with injuries.

So knowing the paranoid fans disposition, you think they'd continue to play a player with an injury even after Embiid played with a meniscus tear? What is the benefit of playing Fultz with this injury to show the world how screwed up his shoulder is? If he's just working on his shot, then he's getting in game practice to work on his technique.

And to come out and say "hey we're working on his jumper" after an entire summer to work on it and this is all we have to show for it raises massive questions about why they are even doing it and the competency of their development team.

76ciology · Post #307 » by **76ciology** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:32 am

Read on Twitter

76ciology · Post #308 » by **76ciology** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:53 am

Bright spot on offense for Fultz
- .522 freethrow rate

remember that talk back then how Jrue could have been a legit star if he has high FTr? Biggest disparity IMO with MVP Drose and and post ACL Drose is the FTr.

High FTr, very good PnR player, good playmaker and good defensive player. Add that to eventual perimeter shooting.

Be patient. Just need to put all the doubters into one bandwagon and burn it on due time

LongLiveHinkie · Post #309 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:06 am

Negrodamus wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
I think it was a convenient excuse at one point while restructuring his jump shot and they have been intentionally vague about it so it seems like it could be the injury. The adjustments he's making really seems in line with an in progress re tinkering of jump shot. Both Brown and Fultz have said that he was working on his shot.

But they don't need to make an excuse. Why wouldn't they just come out and say they're working on him with his jumper? Why make up an injury to hide it? That's the equivalent of a girl calling you back asking if you wanna go on a second date and instead of just saying no thanks, you make up a story about how you're a serial killer and are going to jail for the rest of your life. It's totally over the top and unnecessary. And to not only mention it, but continue it going, when they know how paranoid fans are in this town with injuries lately, to lie about that would be borderline sadistic.

They were also vague about Embiid's injuries, it's typically what they do with injuries.

So knowing the paranoid fans disposition, you think they'd continue to play a player with an injury even after Embiid played with a meniscus tear? What is the benefit of playing Fultz with this injury to show the world how screwed up his shoulder is? If he's just working on his shot, then he's getting in game practice to work on his technique.

And to come out and say "hey we're working on his jumper" after an entire summer to work on it and this is all we have to show for it raises massive questions about why they are even doing it and the competency of their development team.

Well that's why they came out and said it's not something that can get worse. Or not that serious. Or whatever they said.

Post #310 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:33 am

76ciology wrote:

Read on Twitter

Fultz liking tweets such as that seems like passive acknowledgment.

76ciology · Post #311 » by **76ciology** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:40 am

CoreyGallagher wrote:
76ciology wrote:

Read on Twitter

Fultz liking tweets such as that seems like passive acknowledgment.

Yeah.

Its a temporary injury and a temporary shooting form.

Simmons25 · Post #312 » by **Simmons25** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:48 am

Negrodamus wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:You think making up a fake injury to hide something that doesn't need to be hidden is more likely than a team that has been known to screw up injury situations to screw up yet another?

I think it was a convenient excuse at one point while restructuring his jump shot and they have been intentionally vague about it so it seems like it could be the injury. The adjustments he's making really seems in line with an in progress re tinkering of jump shot. Both Brown and Fultz have said that he was working on his shot.

Wasn't it someone here? (or maybe elsewhere) where I read that when Fultz went for that jump ball last game... that he went up with his left hand instead of his natural right.

If that is not absolute 100% confirmation that he has a shoulder issue... then nothing is.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #313 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:53 am

Simmons25 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:You think making up a fake injury to hide something that doesn't need to be hidden is more likely than a team that has been known to screw up injury situations to screw up yet another?

I think it was a convenient excuse at one point while restructuring his jump shot and they have been intentionally vague about it so it seems like it could be the injury. The adjustments he's making really seems in line with an in progress re tinkering of jump shot. Both Brown and Fultz have said that he was working on his shot.

Wasn't it someone here? (or maybe elsewhere) where I read that when Fultz went for that jump ball last game... that he went up with his left hand instead of his natural right.

If that is not absolute 100% confirmation that he has a shoulder issue... then nothing is.

He did, I went back and watched it again and he went up lefty.

Simmons25 · Post #314 » by **Simmons25** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:57 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
I think it was a convenient excuse at one point while restructuring his jump shot and they have been intentionally vague about it so it seems like it could be the injury. The adjustments he's making really seems in line with an in progress re tinkering of jump shot. Both Brown and Fultz have said that he was working on his shot.

Wasn't it someone here? (or maybe elsewhere) where I read that when Fultz went for that jump ball last game... that he went up with his left hand instead of his natural right.

If that is not absolute 100% confirmation that he has a shoulder issue... then nothing is.

He did, I went back and watched it again and he went up lefty.

Which can only mean he is unable to lift his arm up from his waist to above his shoulder... the same way he would need to bring the ball up if he was shooting properly. The fact he starts his free throws from a position where the ball is already above his shoulder and has to push it... proves even further his shoulder is stuffed.

You can have conspiracy theories about faking injuries to cover up poor shooting... but not when he is having to use his non dominant arm and leg to jump for a ball.

Negrodamus · Post #315 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:10 am

Simmons25 wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:
Wasn't it someone here? (or maybe elsewhere) where I read that when Fultz went for that jump ball last game... that he went up with his left hand instead of his natural right.

If that is not absolute 100% confirmation that he has a shoulder issue... then nothing is.

He did, I went back and watched it again and he went up lefty.

Which can only mean he is unable to lift his arm up from his waist to above his shoulder... the same way he would need to bring the ball up if he was shooting properly. The fact he starts his free throws from a position where the ball is already above his shoulder and has to push it... proves even further his shoulder is stuffed.

You can have conspiracy theories about faking injuries to cover up poor shooting... but not when he is having to use his non dominant arm and leg to jump for a ball.

We've seen him shoot the ball a handful of times, block a shot, take left and right handed layups... I don't know. I hope it is an injury, but the left handed tip ball isn't enough of a smoking gun for me to completely rule out a shot rebuild.

Simmons25 · Post #316 » by **Simmons25** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:32 am

Negrodamus wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:
He did, I went back and watched it again and he went up lefty.

Which can only mean he is unable to lift his arm up from his waist to above his shoulder... the same way he would need to bring the ball up if he was shooting properly. The fact he starts his free throws from a position where the ball is already above his shoulder and has to push it... proves even further his shoulder is stuffed.

You can have conspiracy theories about faking injuries to cover up poor shooting... but not when he is having to use his non dominant arm and leg to jump for a ball.

We've seen him shoot the ball a handful of times, block a shot, take left and right handed layups... I don't know. I hope it is an injury, but the left handed tip ball isn't enough of a smoking gun for me to completely rule out a shot rebuild.

It makes no logical sense to me because it's not like he has never known how to shoot the ball. His jump shot was always his strength... he has muscle memory built up from playing basketball most of his life. You can't destroy that in the space of 3 months.

I just cannot possibly see how anyway can go from having a sweet outside jumper... to the basketball equivalent of Charles Barkley's golf shot in such a short period of time and it all be mental. It looks all physical as a result of pain. His hand position is hilarious.

Hardcore6erFan · Post #317 » by **Hardcore6erFan** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:14 am

I can guarantee with 100% certainty this terrible foul shot form has nothing to do with an injury, and anyone who believes that it's an injury is incredibly gullible.

This is a textbook case of the yips. If the Sixers were smart, they would use this fake injury excuse to sit him down for 2 weeks and have him work with a shooting coach to try and build his confidence back up.

If that doesn't help the next step would be a sports psychologist.

And just throwing this out there... Fultz says he's in love with Chic Fil A. Chic Fil A puts MSG (monosodium glutamate) in everything. Many health experts say MSG is a neurotoxin. Everyone reacts differently to different chemicals. If Fultz has a sensitivity to MSG and is ODing on Chic Fil A, perhaps the MSG is screwing with his brain.

76ciology · Post #318 » by **76ciology** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:31 am

Hardcore6erFan wrote:I can guarantee with 100% certainty this terrible foul shot form has nothing to do with an injury, and anyone who believes that it's an injury is incredibly gullible.

This is a textbook case of the yips. If the Sixers were smart, they would use this fake injury excuse to sit him down for 2 weeks and have him work with a shooting coach to try and build his confidence back up.

If that doesn't help the next step would be a sports psychologist.

And just throwing this out there... Fultz says he's in love with Chic Fil A. Chic Fil A puts MSG (monosodium glutamate) in everything. Many health experts say MSG is a neurotoxin. Everyone reacts differently to different chemicals. If Fultz has a sensitivity to MSG and is ODing on Chic Fil A, perhaps the MSG is screwing with his brain.

MYSTERY SOLVED

Simmons25 · Post #319 » by **Simmons25** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:52 am

Hardcore6erFan wrote:I can guarantee with 100% certainty this terrible foul shot form has nothing to do with an injury, and anyone who believes that it's an injury is incredibly gullible.

This is a textbook case of the yips. If the Sixers were smart, they would use this fake injury excuse to sit him down for 2 weeks and have him work with a shooting coach to try and build his confidence back up.

If that doesn't help the next step would be a sports psychologist.

And just throwing this out there... Fultz says he's in love with Chic Fil A. Chic Fil A puts MSG (monosodium glutamate) in everything. Many health experts say MSG is a neurotoxin. Everyone reacts differently to different chemicals. If Fultz has a sensitivity to MSG and is ODing on Chic Fil A, perhaps the MSG is screwing with his brain.

So you think when Fultz sat out those 2 pre-season games with a sore shoulder as well.... because he didn't really have a sore shoulder at all... it was just the yips (in a pre season game :lol:

) and had a sensitivity to the monosodium glutamate in Chic Fila A........................................... and you think we are the 'incredibly gullible' ones :lol:

LongLiveHinkie · Post #320 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:13 am

"ODing on Chick fil a"

Actually, he's been eating it less, so maybe he's going through some Chick fil a withdrawal and they need to lock him in a room with a catering tray and let him go to town.

Fultz right now trying to make his way to his car to get some much needed Chick fil a: