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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#41 » by bwgood77 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:54 am

denial wrote:I would love Blatt. He got a terrible wrap in CLE and I think they owe him a ring, personally, for the foundation he set, iirc.
He would focus these kids on the proper parts of the game.

He is a perfect example of a head coach, as opposed to a good individual coach/trainer/assistant, which is what we have had, imo. He commands attention. He is always professional. He works tirelessly. He plays team basketball and has a system.

I don't know a lot about most of the coaches ya'll are mentioning. But this dude Blatt is a winner.

EDIT: no idea if dude is an option or available at all; just commented cuz I saw other ppl mentioning him


I read an earlier article that said Blatt wants to coach in the NBA again. He is currently coaching a turkish team in euroleague.
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#42 » by bwgood77 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:07 am

Tony Bennett?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1627244&p=59436956#p59436956

Tony Bennett, University of Virginia head coach
Along with Jay Wright, Bennett is the most oft-mentioned by NBA execs as the collegiate coach most capable of making the jump to the NBA. There's no indication as to whether Bennett has any yearning to leave Charlottesville for the pros.


http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents18986226/five-nba-coaching-prospects-watch
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#43 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:13 am

Ettore Messina. You don’t need to do a coaching search. Jus to to the Spurs and tell them we want him. He is everything this team needs. Experience, success, NBA experience under Pop.


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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#44 » by NashtyNas » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:17 am

NashtyNas wrote:I agree with you though, free flowing offenses make everyone look better and make the team function as a unit.
Obviously, we don't have the best coaching. I think everyone understands that. We certainly don't have a lot of talent - unless you mean potential/physical tools which we have a ton of. But in terms of current basketball ability, we're severely lacking in that department.


This was me not a few days ago.... guess you can say I saw this coming.

Watson sucked - badly. Was it all his fault? Probably not. A lot of it was though.
Of course lack of talent isn't on him, but the lack of any semblance of production from the talent he had should certainly be unacceptable.

Now as far as candidates, I want someone oldschool. Someone that can teach the young kids how things are done in the NBA.

I can't believe I'm saying this but give me some JVG.... or even worse some Marc Jackson.

As much as I love Nash, he's not not the guy we need right now. Now if we make him President or VP of basketball operations, I'm all for that... especially if it means Sarver keeps his dirty paws off the basketball side of things.
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#45 » by Blackification » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:23 am

NashtyNas wrote:
NashtyNas wrote:I agree with you though, free flowing offenses make everyone look better and make the team function as a unit.
Obviously, we don't have the best coaching. I think everyone understands that. We certainly don't have a lot of talent - unless you mean potential/physical tools which we have a ton of. But in terms of current basketball ability, we're severely lacking in that department.


This was me not a few days ago.... guess you can say I saw this coming.

Watson sucked - badly. Was it all his fault? Probably not. A lot of it was though.
Of course lack of talent isn't on him, but the lack of any semblance of production from the talent he had should certainly be unacceptable.

Now as far as candidates, I want someone oldschool. Someone that can teach the young kids how things are done in the NBA.

I can't believe I'm saying this but give me some JVG.... or even worse some Marc Jackson.

As much as I love Nash, he's not not the guy we need right now. Now if we make him President or VP of basketball operations, I'm all for that... especially if it means Sarver keeps his dirty paws off the basketball side of things.

Mark Jackson is just as bad as Watson, only instead of yoga it would be bible class.
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#46 » by NashtyNas » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:30 am

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NashtyNas wrote:
NashtyNas wrote:I agree with you though, free flowing offenses make everyone look better and make the team function as a unit.
Obviously, we don't have the best coaching. I think everyone understands that. We certainly don't have a lot of talent - unless you mean potential/physical tools which we have a ton of. But in terms of current basketball ability, we're severely lacking in that department.


This was me not a few days ago.... guess you can say I saw this coming.

Watson sucked - badly. Was it all his fault? Probably not. A lot of it was though.
Of course lack of talent isn't on him, but the lack of any semblance of production from the talent he had should certainly be unacceptable.

Now as far as candidates, I want someone oldschool. Someone that can teach the young kids how things are done in the NBA.

I can't believe I'm saying this but give me some JVG.... or even worse some Marc Jackson.

As much as I love Nash, he's not not the guy we need right now. Now if we make him President or VP of basketball operations, I'm all for that... especially if it means Sarver keeps his dirty paws off the basketball side of things.

Mark Jackson is just as bad as Watson, only instead of yoga it would be bible class.


Sorry, I didn't put it in green but I thought I made it obvious with the "even worse" part. :lol:
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#47 » by Djedefre » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:31 am

Messina is not a coach for this team, at this stage of development. Only high profile NCAA names. Period.
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Post#48 » by Thespianoid » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:34 am

I've been reading a lot of chatter about Stephen Silas, current Hornets associate head coach. Seems to be one of the best assistants out there - a finalist for the Rockets job (before D'Antoni was hired) as well as coveted by the Warriors to replace Walton as lead assistant.

great with X's and O's and experienced with player development, working with LeBron and Steph Curry during Cavs/Warriors stints. Also Jeremy Lin really credits him as a key factor in his development from the beginning as an undrafted Warrior signing.

could be a great hire if the org is looking to set up a strong foundation for the future. hopefully they do their due diligence, but....they didn't last time. So who knows.
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#49 » by Blackification » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:41 am

NashtyNas wrote:
Blackification wrote:
NashtyNas wrote:
This was me not a few days ago.... guess you can say I saw this coming.

Watson sucked - badly. Was it all his fault? Probably not. A lot of it was though.
Of course lack of talent isn't on him, but the lack of any semblance of production from the talent he had should certainly be unacceptable.

Now as far as candidates, I want someone oldschool. Someone that can teach the young kids how things are done in the NBA.

I can't believe I'm saying this but give me some JVG.... or even worse some Marc Jackson.

As much as I love Nash, he's not not the guy we need right now. Now if we make him President or VP of basketball operations, I'm all for that... especially if it means Sarver keeps his dirty paws off the basketball side of things.

Mark Jackson is just as bad as Watson, only instead of yoga it would be bible class.


Sorry, I didn't put it in green but I thought I made it obvious with the "even worse" part. :lol:

Haha glad you were joking! It’s just hard to tell these days cause some people think he really would be a good hire.
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#50 » by PackSuns » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:55 am

bwgood77 wrote:Tony Bennett?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1627244&p=59436956#p59436956

Tony Bennett, University of Virginia head coach
Along with Jay Wright, Bennett is the most oft-mentioned by NBA execs as the collegiate coach most capable of making the jump to the NBA. There's no indication as to whether Bennett has any yearning to leave Charlottesville for the pros.


http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents18986226/five-nba-coaching-prospects-watch


I would take Bennett in a heartbeat if we are looking at collegiate coaches. Excellent X's and O's guy and great at player development. Virginia has won more with less during his tenure. Best Defensive coach in NCAA IMO
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Post#51 » by Son of Ra » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:16 am

Surprised so many suggest or are in favor of Blatt. After 2, 3 coaches losing the locker room I really don't wanna bring in a coach that lost his locker room!
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#52 » by MrMiyagi » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:24 am

Thunder Dan Majerle
SHAZAM!

Suns traded Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jae Crowder and 4 1st round picks and a swap so some Vegas Bookies would like us.
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#53 » by Qwigglez » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:34 am

I actually don't want us to hire any former Suns players.
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#54 » by grumpysaddle » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:10 am

Son of Ra wrote:Surprised so many suggest or are in favor of Blatt. After 2, 3 coaches losing the locker room I really don't wanna bring in a coach that lost his locker room!


That was almost certainly LeBron being above being told what to do. LeBron is good enough to not be told what to do and how to do it. Tyronn Lue is just a face to pretend lebron isnt actually running the entire show. Our team is exactly the opposite. Blatt was a terrible hire for a veteran team, he'd most likely be an amazing hire for a team full of 20 year olds needing to learn how to play the sport they get paid millions to play.
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#55 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:35 am

Qwigglez wrote:I actually don't want us to hire any former Suns players.

At this point that feels more like a PR move than anything we desperately need.
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#56 » by Bogyo » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:06 am

We desperatley need to absolutley NAIL this. Otherwise this franchise will go down the drain like the Kings recently or the Clippers of the 90s.

Booker can't have 5 coaches during his rookie contract - otherwise he might want out (if he doesnt already :( ). Other young guys need to learn basketball, and be put in the best position in order to develop and reach their full potential, unlike Len, who is a prime example of being badly utilized, badly developed, badly coached - as he had 4-5-6 (I honestly lost count) coaches during his rookie contract, at first he wasn't thaught the right things, then we were trying to make him into a strech 5, made him play the 4, etc... we all see the result. :(

We got to have a real coach, or we re going down for a decade.
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#57 » by Mulhollanddrive » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:16 am

I personally don't mind a guy who is willing to commit victimless minor crimes to win lol, but I can't see us hiring Rick Pitino with it still to play out.

What is the success rate of college coaches anyway? Callipari was a fail, I think we'd need someone with NBA assistant experience just to tick the boxes and play the percentages, not the time for unproven hunches.
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#58 » by Hesh » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:35 am

Next move, Dudley retires only to be immediately hired as HC before Sarver interviews any other candidates
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#59 » by DaleyBlind » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:06 pm

PackSuns wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Tony Bennett?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1627244&p=59436956#p59436956

Tony Bennett, University of Virginia head coach
Along with Jay Wright, Bennett is the most oft-mentioned by NBA execs as the collegiate coach most capable of making the jump to the NBA. There's no indication as to whether Bennett has any yearning to leave Charlottesville for the pros.



http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents18986226/five-nba-coaching-prospects-watch


I would take Bennett in a heartbeat if we are looking at collegiate coaches. Excellent X's and O's guy and great at player development. Virginia has won more with less during his tenure. Best Defensive coach in NCAA IMO


Bennett would be an amazing hire, can't see him leaving Virginia any time soon though.
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Re: Lookin' for a head coach 

Post#60 » by DaleyBlind » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:07 pm

So is Triano taking over for the rest of the year?

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