Markelle Fultz Discussion II

[Negrodamus]

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Great mechanics on his shot right here.

I'm dying. That was a good one.

[76ciology]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/806066

In some of the M.S.G. treated birds, additional brain regions were damaged, i.e. V.M.H., mammillary nuclei, dorsomedial anterior nuclei, ovoid nuclei, subrotundus nuclei, archistriatum and lateral forebrain bundles. Some of the M.S.G. treated birds showed marked abdominal fat deposition or low spermatozoan motility.

Sounds legit

[Negrodamus]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/806066

In some of the M.S.G. treated birds, additional brain regions were damaged, i.e. V.M.H., mammillary nuclei, dorsomedial anterior nuclei, ovoid nuclei, subrotundus nuclei, archistriatum and lateral forebrain bundles. Some of the M.S.G. treated birds showed marked abdominal fat deposition or low spermatozoan motility.

Sounds legit

Luckily 20% of our country's best university, Harvard, is 20% Chinese and they put MSG on their MSG.

[ivysixer2000]

Unfortunately for the Fultz haters, its not like any of the other prospects from this draft are doing wonderfully either right now. Not like we can say we should've gotten him or that guy (cause they all have stuck it up in their own ways). None of them look like Bron or Jordan in their rookie year yet, all we can do is wait and see how they develop.

If it doesn't fit your agenda that Fultz is actually hurt, just keep going with that til that agenda crashes and burns cause people do have memories. Sure, every so often he does do some things with that right shoulder, but when your playing ball sometimes you just do it out of habit even if it hurts. I do wonder sometimes who has actually played ball here, but most of the time it just shows up in posts.

I don't think Fultz should be out there, but that's not my call. It is the call of people trying to satisfy guys like us on this board demanding things from a #1 pick even if its not possible. At the end of the day, Fultz is toughing this out for this team, when really he shouldn't cause noone will appreciate it anyway.

[JojoSlimbiid]

Yeah you can tell with every brick Lonzo lays(which is a lot) or every times Josh Jackson get's abused(which is a lot) that a segment of the board get's pissed that they can't up their own quotes and say "hehe XD I told you so". Guys actually cheering for other rookies just so they can hopefully be right, it's like dealing with actual toddlers.

Dennis Smith is the last bastion....o wait he literally can't make it a week without icing his knees.

[Negrodamus]

Yeah you can tell with every brick Lonzo lays(which is a lot) or every times Josh Jackson get's abused(which is a lot) that a segment of the board get's pissed that they can't up their own quotes and say "hehe XD I told you so". Guys actually cheering for other rookies just so they can hopefully be right, it's like dealing with actual toddlers.

Dennis Smith is the last bastion....o wait he literally can't make it a week without icing his knees.

Tatum has been decent...

[JojoSlimbiid]

Yeah you can tell with every brick Lonzo lays(which is a lot) or every times Josh Jackson get's abused(which is a lot) that a segment of the board get's pissed that they can't up their own quotes and say "hehe XD I told you so". Guys actually cheering for other rookies just so they can hopefully be right, it's like dealing with actual toddlers.

Dennis Smith is the last bastion....o wait he literally can't make it a week without icing his knees.

Tatum has been decent...

Yeah your the only one that comes to mind about Tatum and most people looked at you the way Redick looked during the game in Toronto

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Anyway the whole point of the rant is that it's way too early for people to start taking victory laps. Have people already upping threads and quotes 3 games into the season

[PhilasFinest]

This is really bizarre. I honestly don't know what the hell is up with his shot, as it seemed fine in SL and college.

[LloydFree]

The blocked shots are ugly. Hopefully he adjusts to the speed/length/athleticism of NBA defenders.

Lloyd -- even you have to be pleased with what he's shown on on-ball defense, yes?

Yes, I'm as pleased with that as I was with Okafor's footwork in the post and Evan Turner's rebounding from the guard position.

[PhilasFinest]

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Where is this stuff at???

[Negrodamus]

Yeah you can tell with every brick Lonzo lays(which is a lot) or every times Josh Jackson get's abused(which is a lot) that a segment of the board get's pissed that they can't up their own quotes and say "hehe XD I told you so". Guys actually cheering for other rookies just so they can hopefully be right, it's like dealing with actual toddlers.

Dennis Smith is the last bastion....o wait he literally can't make it a week without icing his knees.

Tatum has been decent...

Yeah your the only one that comes to mind about Tatum and most people looked at you the way Redick looked during the game in Toronto

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Anyway the whole point of the rant is that it's way too early for people to start taking victory laps. Have people already upping threads and quotes 3 games into the season

Well, in this spirit of this conversation, I'll triple down:

Remember when I said I'd rather trade #3 for D'Angelo Russell than move up to get Fultz? I'm standing by that.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1577750&start=60#start_here

Just kidding... kind of.

[KrazySixersD]

Guys its clear hes hurt and its even clearer this organization is a lying POS who doesnt deserve anyof our fandom

But none these rookies look good, tatum is getting 36 mpg having to not do much at all.. fuktz was the right choice because i think when healthy he will be the eventual long term PG for this team, and not simmons.

Summons wll need to develop into a blake griffin like PF. We need to sit fultz till he has 100% of his game available to him

[LloydFree]

Well, in this spirit of this conversation, I'll triple down:

Remember when I said I'd rather trade #3 for D'Angelo Russell than move up to get Fultz? I'm standing by that.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1577750&start=60#start_here

Just kidding... kind of.

You were correct then, and you are correct now. Russell was a better prospect than Fultz.

[Negrodamus]

Well, in this spirit of this conversation, I'll triple down:

Remember when I said I'd rather trade #3 for D'Angelo Russell than move up to get Fultz? I'm standing by that.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1577750&start=60#start_here

Just kidding... kind of.

You were correct then, and you are correct now. Russell was a better prospect than Fultz.

It's tough to say. If Fultz ever gets his shot back, then I feel like he's a better prospect because he's clearly more athletic and quick. If the shot ends up undoing Fultz, then obviously Russell is the better player. I also think Russell would fit in better with Embiid and Simmons since they have a common connection and he has a quick trigger 3 pt shot.

But all of this is contingent on Fultz's shot, in my opinion. I know that's not how you feel though.

[76ciology]

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Where is this stuff at???

That's a different player. The guy we got was Markelle False

[LloydFree]

Well, in this spirit of this conversation, I'll triple down:



viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1577750&start=60#start_here

Just kidding... kind of.

You were correct then, and you are correct now. Russell was a better prospect than Fultz.

It's tough to say. If Fultz ever gets his shot back, then I feel like he's a better prospect because he's clearly more athletic and quick. If the shot ends up undoing Fultz, then obviously Russell is the better player. I also think Russell would fit in better with Embiid and Simmons since they have a common connection and he has a quick trigger 3 pt shot.

But all of this is contingent on Fultz's shot, in my opinion. I know that's not how you feel though.

When you are a below average athlete at the Guard position, you need special skills. Russell was always better, because he had special shooting potential and special court vision. Fultz has a diverse skill set, but he does not have special skills. He's a slightly better athlete, but with non-elite skills. Russell would have been a perfect fit, and you wouldn't have had to wait 3 years for him to be useful.

[Unbreakable99]

Tatum has been decent...

Yeah your the only one that comes to mind about Tatum and most people looked at you the way Redick looked during the game in Toronto

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Anyway the whole point of the rant is that it's way too early for people to start taking victory laps. Have people already upping threads and quotes 3 games into the season

Well, in this spirit of this conversation, I'll triple down:

Remember when I said I'd rather trade #3 for D'Angelo Russell than move up to get Fultz? I'm standing by that.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1577750&start=60#start_here

Just kidding... kind of.

Yup. My main reasoning for not wanting to move up for Fultz is that I didn't think he was good enough to trade up for. We gave up a lot to get him. That was my main sticking point. I liked him as a prospect but not worth trading up for. I didn't see him as a franchise player. And when we traded up to one we probably should have tried to trade for Porzingis. I just wanted to stay at 3 and take whoever was left among Fultz Ball and Jackson and would have been fine with DSJ and Tatum and Issac too. There were just too many players too close in talent to trade up. Really dumb trade. If I see Bagley or Bamba balling out this year I'm going to be pissed because he might go to Boston. They could be their final piece.

[76ciology]

He's hurt because if he's not then we would have seen him making floaters with his right. He clearly can't straighten his right arm.

[Negrodamus]

You were correct then, and you are correct now. Russell was a better prospect than Fultz.

It's tough to say. If Fultz ever gets his shot back, then I feel like he's a better prospect because he's clearly more athletic and quick. If the shot ends up undoing Fultz, then obviously Russell is the better player. I also think Russell would fit in better with Embiid and Simmons since they have a common connection and he has a quick trigger 3 pt shot.

But all of this is contingent on Fultz's shot, in my opinion. I know that's not how you feel though.

When you are a below average athlete at the Guard position, you need special skills. Russell was always better, because he had special shooting potential and special court vision. Fultz has a diverse skill set, but he does not have special skills. He's a slightly better athlete, but with non-elite skills. Russell would have been a perfect fit, and you wouldn't have had to wait 3 years for him to be useful.

Right, but I don't see Fultz as below average, or even average athlete. I think he's an above average, just not elite, athlete. He's continuously beating his man off the dribble every game. He's also playing defense with more intensity than Russell has in his 3 years in the league. Those were 2 things I didn't expect to see from Fultz.

However, if we're committed to running this ridiculous offense, then Russell would have been a better option, IMO. He serves better as a spot up shooter and a secondary passer than Fultz does.

[Slartibartfast]

Well, in this spirit of this conversation, I'll triple down:



viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1577750&start=60#start_here

Just kidding... kind of.

You were correct then, and you are correct now. Russell was a better prospect than Fultz.

It's tough to say. If Fultz ever gets his shot back, then I feel like he's a better prospect because he's clearly more athletic and quick. If the shot ends up undoing Fultz, then obviously Russell is the better player. I also think Russell would fit in better with Embiid and Simmons since they have a common connection and he has a quick trigger 3 pt shot.

But all of this is contingent on Fultz's shot, in my opinion. I know that's not how you feel though.

Y'all are so quick to take the worst case scenario seriously. 5 games and his shot is gone forever.

Obviously, this is not a dream start up, but it's eminently reasonable to project that this bizarro form is going to be very temporary.

And meanwhile, Fultz looks pretty good in most of the areas that the draft detractors like E-Balla on the draft board harped incessantly on. I remember the "he's slow and can't get anywhere without a pick" mantra. Fultz has almost completely dispelled that notion - he is consistently getting into the teeth of the D with or without a pick.

Take heart - it's far more likely that Fultz regains his previous shooting form than that this is the new Fultz. In which case, you really did get a stud because the physical tools are clearly quite good.