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Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2

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Post#141 » by Saberestar » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:50 pm

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Post#142 » by bwoolf2 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:51 pm

While I am not a Bledsoe fan he still has a good rep around the league with players and front offices it seems, there are enough teams interested we will get something ok in return it wont just be a fire sale.
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Post#143 » by NTB » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:51 pm

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Post#144 » by Blackification » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:52 pm

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What a d*ck move. Literally minutes after it was reported he was sent home.

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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#145 » by bwgood77 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:53 pm

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Frank Lee wrote:I don’t see much value in Bled. He’s an injury prone rental, not really a PG, does not really man up on D, and w/Paul, is going to hold out for a boatload next year.

Some team is going to really have to want hin. I think the best we get is a bad contract and a late first... and maybe a youngster that isn’t panning out.

As mentioned, I wouldn’t play him again.


This is why I think Denver is probably the place we'll send him.

Mudiay, a filler, and a first.


Yeah, or Milwaukee. Or maybe a wildcard team. Like I said, I'll be surprised if it's the Cavs unless they are freaking out about last night's game. But what they need is 3 pt shooting, and that's not what he is. They have enough guys that can lead an offense or finish at the rim, and IT coming back at some point. I don't think it helps them much and to give away that Nets pick would be nuts.

Actually Nets might want him though with Lin out for the year. They have TONS of wings. I'd love to get Caris LeVert. They probably wouldn't give him up though.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#146 » by LukasBMW » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:53 pm

Fischella wrote:Denver, package in the shape of a young asset, 2 of Juancho, Lyles, Mudiay or Lydon probably, a pick or draft rights (depending on which youngsters you get) and a filler, Arthur or Faried.

Cleveland, something around a youngster, Osman, Zizic, a future pick, Shumpert, Thompson, probably you can unload Dudley or Chandler in the trade, maybe add Frye.

Milwaukee, difficult unless Phoenix likes Parker (gotta pay him and you already paid Warren, nobody has played after two ACLs in the same knee, only examples Redd and Josh Howard both retired almost right after), so Parker, Delly maybe add Henson too and you can unload one of Kidd's buddies Chandler/Dudley who have shorter contracts than Henson and hence Milwaukee might add a pick or DJ Wilson?

LA, would have to be something like Austin Rivers, Dekker and a 2021 1st, Clippers don't have much more, moving on from Rivers makes sense if they don't care about Doc long term.

Those are the 4 teams that makes most sense for me, San Antonio does too but for the trade to work they'd have to include Parker salary wise and they arent trading one of their own, plus the Spurs rarely get involve in big trades.

Which option makes more sense to you guys? any others I might've missed?

All 3 of those moves offer a defensive Guard to pair with Booker, Shumpert, Delly and Rivers, that could be useful actually.


Mudiay, a pick, and Faried for Bledsoe seems reasonable. Give Mudiay a shot. Faried will play hard.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#147 » by kennydorglas » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:54 pm

I'll miss that ISO jabstep contested 3.
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Post#148 » by BobbieL » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:56 pm

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Fischella wrote:Denver, package in the shape of a young asset, 2 of Juancho, Lyles, Mudiay or Lydon probably, a pick or draft rights (depending on which youngsters you get) and a filler, Arthur or Faried.

Cleveland, something around a youngster, Osman, Zizic, a future pick, Shumpert, Thompson, probably you can unload Dudley or Chandler in the trade, maybe add Frye.

Milwaukee, difficult unless Phoenix likes Parker (gotta pay him and you already paid Warren, nobody has played after two ACLs in the same knee, only examples Redd and Josh Howard both retired almost right after), so Parker, Delly maybe add Henson too and you can unload one of Kidd's buddies Chandler/Dudley who have shorter contracts than Henson and hence Milwaukee might add a pick or DJ Wilson?

LA, would have to be something like Austin Rivers, Dekker and a 2021 1st, Clippers don't have much more, moving on from Rivers makes sense if they don't care about Doc long term.

Those are the 4 teams that makes most sense for me, San Antonio does too but for the trade to work they'd have to include Parker salary wise and they arent trading one of their own, plus the Spurs rarely get involve in big trades.

Which option makes more sense to you guys? any others I might've missed?

All 3 of those moves offer a defensive Guard to pair with Booker, Shumpert, Delly and Rivers, that could be useful actually.


Mudiay, a pick, and Faried for Bledsoe seems reasonable. Give Mudiay a shot. Faried will play hard.


If I am dealing with the Clippers - its not for Austin Rivers - its for Sweet Lou (expiring), Wesley Johnson (one more year after this), Dekker and the Clips pick. No bad long term deals

Denver for Faried makes sense -
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Post#149 » by NTB » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:56 pm

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Post#150 » by kennydorglas » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:59 pm

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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#151 » by Sreister » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:59 pm

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Fischella wrote:Denver, package in the shape of a young asset, 2 of Juancho, Lyles, Mudiay or Lydon probably, a pick or draft rights (depending on which youngsters you get) and a filler, Arthur or Faried.

Cleveland, something around a youngster, Osman, Zizic, a future pick, Shumpert, Thompson, probably you can unload Dudley or Chandler in the trade, maybe add Frye.

Milwaukee, difficult unless Phoenix likes Parker (gotta pay him and you already paid Warren, nobody has played after two ACLs in the same knee, only examples Redd and Josh Howard both retired almost right after), so Parker, Delly maybe add Henson too and you can unload one of Kidd's buddies Chandler/Dudley who have shorter contracts than Henson and hence Milwaukee might add a pick or DJ Wilson?

LA, would have to be something like Austin Rivers, Dekker and a 2021 1st, Clippers don't have much more, moving on from Rivers makes sense if they don't care about Doc long term.

Those are the 4 teams that makes most sense for me, San Antonio does too but for the trade to work they'd have to include Parker salary wise and they arent trading one of their own, plus the Spurs rarely get involve in big trades.

Which option makes more sense to you guys? any others I might've missed?

All 3 of those moves offer a defensive Guard to pair with Booker, Shumpert, Delly and Rivers, that could be useful actually.


Mudiay, a pick, and Faried for Bledsoe seems reasonable. Give Mudiay a shot. Faried will play hard.


Yeah, I mentioned that earlier and seems fair on both sides and we get some fire from Faried. I wanted Faried years ago because of that, it might be a little late now, but beggars can't be choosers. I think that's as good of a trade as we can get from JUST Bled. Maybe we can turn Chriss or Bender WITH Bled and turn around another boarder All-Star? Unlikely but I like the idea of it.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#152 » by Gorilla Warfare » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:01 pm

I refuse to give the Knicks Bledsoe without getting Porzingis in return. Which will never happen. Hang up all calls from Knicks without him on the table.

I will gladly take the Nets pick that the Cavs have. Any players added to make it work I won't care about unless it's Love.
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Post#153 » by BobbieL » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:02 pm

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Earl seemed to be part life coach, part philosopher but not that much into X's and O's - Suns need a coach. A teacher of basketball that can also add the life lessons. He had a lot of Coach Wooden stories and stories about family and together. All that is good

But end of the day, its about coaching and making the team better and most importantly, making the young players better .

This was the right move to bring in the right guy

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Post#154 » by bwgood77 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:02 pm

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I know we'd have to figure out roster spots if we take back more players, but assuming we don't want Courtney Lee's contract, we'd have to take Lance Thomas. These two trades work.

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6956113

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Post#155 » by Sreister » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:03 pm

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This is looking so dysfunctional. I don't know what side to believe honestly, Watson or FO. But I tell you what, I HOPE TO GOD our FO has more respect than to tell him that and this was just a immature and childish attempt from Watson to inspire the team? F*** man, idk.
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Post#156 » by BobbieL » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:03 pm

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I know we'd have to figure out roster spots if we take back more players, but assuming we don't want Courtney Lee's contract, we'd have to take Lance Thomas. These two trades work.

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6956113

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6956118


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Post#157 » by Saberestar » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:04 pm

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This is getting crazy. If that is true, McDonough has to go. Everyone hates him.

And Sarver probably is guilty too. What a crazy strategy. 2 weeks for a coach??

Terrible franchise at the moment. 7 years falling.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#158 » by LukasBMW » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:08 pm

True strory:

I have tickets right behind the Suns bench tonight. :lol:

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Post#159 » by TOO » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:10 pm

Just wondering, but why is everyone so convinced that Dan Majerle is the right guy here? I don't get it, yeah, he played in Phoenix, and?
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Post#160 » by bwgood77 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:10 pm

LukasBMW wrote:
Fischella wrote:Denver, package in the shape of a young asset, 2 of Juancho, Lyles, Mudiay or Lydon probably, a pick or draft rights (depending on which youngsters you get) and a filler, Arthur or Faried.

Cleveland, something around a youngster, Osman, Zizic, a future pick, Shumpert, Thompson, probably you can unload Dudley or Chandler in the trade, maybe add Frye.

Milwaukee, difficult unless Phoenix likes Parker (gotta pay him and you already paid Warren, nobody has played after two ACLs in the same knee, only examples Redd and Josh Howard both retired almost right after), so Parker, Delly maybe add Henson too and you can unload one of Kidd's buddies Chandler/Dudley who have shorter contracts than Henson and hence Milwaukee might add a pick or DJ Wilson?

LA, would have to be something like Austin Rivers, Dekker and a 2021 1st, Clippers don't have much more, moving on from Rivers makes sense if they don't care about Doc long term.

Those are the 4 teams that makes most sense for me, San Antonio does too but for the trade to work they'd have to include Parker salary wise and they arent trading one of their own, plus the Spurs rarely get involve in big trades.

Which option makes more sense to you guys? any others I might've missed?

All 3 of those moves offer a defensive Guard to pair with Booker, Shumpert, Delly and Rivers, that could be useful actually.


Mudiay, a pick, and Faried for Bledsoe seems reasonable. Give Mudiay a shot. Faried will play hard.


I like Faried's energy but he's worthless on the court when you desperately need shooting and makes too much money ($13 million each of the next two years). Arthur makes less than $7.5 million with a player option next year.

Faried only played in two games last year so he hasn't even played in quite some time. Arthur played 15 minutes a game and shot over 45% from 3 on almost 3 attempts per game. He is the perfect big to come in for limited minutes and spread the floor and a nice vet to have around.

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