Eric Bledsoe

[bwgood77]

Some of us Magic fans would also do this:

Bledsoe

for

Orlando's unprotected 1st in 2018, Mario Hezonja, DJ Augustin

I like the fact that Hezonja is a Croatian just like Bender. This might make them both more comfortable having each other, and might help them improve quicker.

I'd do that. I noticed Hezonja had a nice game the other night. But of course mostly for the pick.

[Calvin Klein]

Some of us Magic fans would also do this:

Bledsoe

for

Orlando's unprotected 1st in 2018, Mario Hezonja, DJ Augustin

Everybody would probably do this from the Suns side but I don't think Orlando would do it.

[InBoobieWeTrust]

Cavs fan here.

I feel for you guys. Tough situation.

But the Nets pick is a 100% off limits for a guy like Bledsoe(he’s fine and all, but that’s going to be a top 7 pick in all likelihood)

I could see the Cavs maybe talking about our own first rounder or our young euro wing Cedi Osman, but that’s it. And I know that’s not enough in your guys eyes.

Cavs just aren’t gonna give up the Nets pick without a guarantee from LeBron, and even if he gave that, Bledsoe is too redundant with Rose/Wade and IT will be back in January at the latest and he’s a better player/fit.


Just saying, paws off the Brooklyn pick. It’s not going anywhere. Windhorst has said that Dan Gilbert talks about the pick as if it were his child. Lol.


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[bwgood77]

Some of us Magic fans would also do this:

Bledsoe

for

Orlando's unprotected 1st in 2018, Mario Hezonja, DJ Augustin

Everybody would probably do this from the Suns side but I don't think Orlando would do it.

Doesn't seem like enough salary coming back. Only a little over $11 million. And wow I didn't realize Augustin made over $7 million a year for the next three years.

[bwgood77]

Cavs fan here.

I feel for you guys. Tough situation.

But the Nets pick is a 100% off limits for a guy like Bledsoe(he’s fine and all, but that’s going to be a top 7 pick in all likelihood)

I could see the Cavs maybe talking about our own first rounder or our young euro wing Cedi Osman, but that’s it. And I know that’s not enough in your guys eyes.

Cavs just aren’t gonna give up the Nets pick without a guarantee from LeBron, and even if he gave that, Bledsoe is too redundant with Rose/Wade and IT will be back in January at the latest and he’s a better player/fit.


Just saying, paws off the Brooklyn pick. It’s not going anywhere. Windhorst has said that Dan Gilbert talks about the pick as if it were his child. Lol.


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Yeah, I didn't figure a trade with the Cavs would be in the works. You'd be nuts to give up the pick and you have enough ball handlers who can get to the rim and need shooters which Bledsoe is not. Plus we'd have to take a bunch of crap salary back to make it work.

[axl_c_cool]

Some of us Magic fans would also do this:

Bledsoe

for

Orlando's unprotected 1st in 2018, Mario Hezonja, DJ Augustin

Everybody would probably do this from the Suns side but I don't think Orlando would do it.

No way we do that, some Magic fans would but the pick would have to be removed in my opinion. There is a lot of overvaluing Bledsoe's value, it happens on all the boards with teams own players. From an Orlando perspective the most I'd offer is

Biyombo
Augustine
future pick/s

for

Bledsoe
Bender
Chandler


I think you guys need veterans and those 2 are veteran starters, they just don't fit with our roster. Biyombo can improve your defence and steady the locker room, Augustine makes shots and is a very solid PG, the picks would be negotiable


Bledsoe would likely start for us (but not be a lock), Bender is a prospect (although we are loaded at forward), and Chandler is a salary dump. I think that is also one of your biggest problems outside of youth, the Criss, Bender, Jackson, Len forward line is very young and don't fit well. Moving Bender commits to Jackson/Criss/Len, while the vets will help develop a better culture in your team. I really like you're team and taking Porter this year could really be the difference. The thought of Booker/Jackson/Porter/Criss/Len could be an outstanding starting 5. I'm sure I'll get flamed for what I view as the most, as a Magic fan, I'd offer, but it's all in hindsight of the Butler etc deals, and what Bledsoe's value is, in my opinion. Goodluck, and I hope Phoenix improve quickly.

[bwgood77]

Some of us Magic fans would also do this:

Bledsoe

for

Orlando's unprotected 1st in 2018, Mario Hezonja, DJ Augustin

Everybody would probably do this from the Suns side but I don't think Orlando would do it.

No way we do that, some Magic fans would but the pick would have to be removed in my opinion. There is a lot of overvaluing Bledsoe's value, it happens on all the boards with teams own players. From an Orlando perspective the most I'd offer is

Biyombo
Augustine
future pick/s

for

Bledsoe
Bender
Chandler


I think you guys need veterans and those 2 are veteran starters, they just don't fit with our roster. Biyombo can improve your defence and steady the locker room, Augustine makes shots and is a very solid PG, the picks would be negotiable


Bledsoe would likely start for us (but not be a lock), Bender is a prospect (although we are loaded at forward), and Chandler is a salary dump. I think that is also one of your biggest problems outside of youth, the Criss, Bender, Jackson, Len forward line is very young and don't fit well. Moving Bender commits to Jackson/Criss/Len, while the vets will help develop a better culture in your team. I really like you're team and taking Porter this year could really be the difference. The thought of Booker/Jackson/Porter/Criss/Len could be an outstanding starting 5. I'm sure I'll get flamed for what I view as the most, as a Magic fan, I'd offer, but it's all in hindsight of the Butler etc deals, and what Bledsoe's value is, in my opinion. Goodluck, and I hope Phoenix improve quickly.

So you take Hezonja out but we throw Bender in? Do you realize how crappy that offer is for a very solid PG and the 4th pick in the draft last year?

[axl_c_cool]

Everybody would probably do this from the Suns side but I don't think Orlando would do it.

No way we do that, some Magic fans would but the pick would have to be removed in my opinion. There is a lot of overvaluing Bledsoe's value, it happens on all the boards with teams own players. From an Orlando perspective the most I'd offer is

Biyombo
Augustine
future pick/s

for

Bledsoe
Bender
Chandler


I think you guys need veterans and those 2 are veteran starters, they just don't fit with our roster. Biyombo can improve your defence and steady the locker room, Augustine makes shots and is a very solid PG, the picks would be negotiable


Bledsoe would likely start for us (but not be a lock), Bender is a prospect (although we are loaded at forward), and Chandler is a salary dump. I think that is also one of your biggest problems outside of youth, the Criss, Bender, Jackson, Len forward line is very young and don't fit well. Moving Bender commits to Jackson/Criss/Len, while the vets will help develop a better culture in your team. I really like you're team and taking Porter this year could really be the difference. The thought of Booker/Jackson/Porter/Criss/Len could be an outstanding starting 5. I'm sure I'll get flamed for what I view as the most, as a Magic fan, I'd offer, but it's all in hindsight of the Butler etc deals, and what Bledsoe's value is, in my opinion. Goodluck, and I hope Phoenix improve quickly.

So you take Hezonja out but we throw Bender in? Do you realize how crappy that offer is for a very solid PG and the 4th pick in the draft last year?

I realise it's not an amazing offer, when you look at the recent trades for much better players, they didn't get much more value than that, that's just the market, especially for someone who wants a new team

[axl_c_cool]

Also Biyombo replaces Hezonja who's value is a lot higher and a lot more what you need, defence and a solid veteran who's good for an organisation

[bwgood77]

No way we do that, some Magic fans would but the pick would have to be removed in my opinion. There is a lot of overvaluing Bledsoe's value, it happens on all the boards with teams own players. From an Orlando perspective the most I'd offer is

Biyombo
Augustine
future pick/s

for

Bledsoe
Bender
Chandler


I think you guys need veterans and those 2 are veteran starters, they just don't fit with our roster. Biyombo can improve your defence and steady the locker room, Augustine makes shots and is a very solid PG, the picks would be negotiable


Bledsoe would likely start for us (but not be a lock), Bender is a prospect (although we are loaded at forward), and Chandler is a salary dump. I think that is also one of your biggest problems outside of youth, the Criss, Bender, Jackson, Len forward line is very young and don't fit well. Moving Bender commits to Jackson/Criss/Len, while the vets will help develop a better culture in your team. I really like you're team and taking Porter this year could really be the difference. The thought of Booker/Jackson/Porter/Criss/Len could be an outstanding starting 5. I'm sure I'll get flamed for what I view as the most, as a Magic fan, I'd offer, but it's all in hindsight of the Butler etc deals, and what Bledsoe's value is, in my opinion. Goodluck, and I hope Phoenix improve quickly.

So you take Hezonja out but we throw Bender in? Do you realize how crappy that offer is for a very solid PG and the 4th pick in the draft last year?

I realise it's not an amazing offer, when you look at the recent trades for much better players, they didn't get much more value than that, that's just the market, especially for someone who wants a new team

That's not value. You are giving away two horrible contracts. It would be hard to trade away those two contracts if you gave next year's first and got back nothing. Those guys make over a combined $24 million each of the next three years.

[axl_c_cool]

So you take Hezonja out but we throw Bender in? Do you realize how crappy that offer is for a very solid PG and the 4th pick in the draft last year?

I realise it's not an amazing offer, when you look at the recent trades for much better players, they didn't get much more value than that, that's just the market, especially for someone who wants a new team

That's not value. You are giving away two horrible contracts. It would be hard to trade away those two contracts if you gave next year's first and got back nothing. Those guys make over a combined $24 million each of the next three years.

That's relative to who has the players, I don't think Augustine's is horrible, I don't think it's great, I think it's modern value. I think Biyombo's would be better value for you with what you need. I toy'd with adding Ross but I don't think he'd fit with you especially with you needing to play Booker and Jackson

[CobraCommander]

Bledsoe and Booker could be one of the best backcourts in the league.. Why isnt it working out??? I dont get it? I watch enough suns game to know y’all have talent and with Bledsoe only being 27 I wonder if yall should get a better coach and keep the talent on the team. I just dont see how the suns get value for Bledsoe this early in the season...but SAC and Brooklyn are still available to trade with so anything can happen.

[Revived]

Bledsoe and Booker could be one of the best backcourts in the league.. Why isnt it working out??? I dont get it? I watch enough suns game to know y’all have talent and with Bledsoe only being 27 I wonder if yall should get a better coach and keep the talent on the team. I just dont see how the suns get value for Bledsoe this early in the season...but SAC and Brooklyn are still available to trade with so anything can happen.

Because Bledsoe quit on this team before season even started.

[grumpysaddle]

After sleeping on it, Bledsoe pissed me off. He's one of the major reasons the team got completely destroyed in 2 out of 3 games. He was engaged in one quarter against the Lakers. If he'd put in the effort he's capable of on both ends of the floor, those are probably still losses, but palatable losses. He should have been a professional and played like he wanted to be the leader of a young team.

[CobraCommander]

Bledsoe and Booker could be one of the best backcourts in the league.. Why isnt it working out??? I dont get it? I watch enough suns game to know y’all have talent and with Bledsoe only being 27 I wonder if yall should get a better coach and keep the talent on the team. I just dont see how the suns get value for Bledsoe this early in the season...but SAC and Brooklyn are still available to trade with so anything can happen.

Because Bledsoe quit on this team before season even started.

Yeah...but why? You know what I mean...this doesnt make sense as an outsider. Eric could lead the resurgence of the suns as the actual LEADER...

Like he didn’t have that with JW and Boogie...right now he is the man...right/?

[bwgood77]

Bledsoe and Booker could be one of the best backcourts in the league.. Why isnt it working out??? I dont get it? I watch enough suns game to know y’all have talent and with Bledsoe only being 27 I wonder if yall should get a better coach and keep the talent on the team. I just dont see how the suns get value for Bledsoe this early in the season...but SAC and Brooklyn are still available to trade with so anything can happen.

Because Bledsoe quit on this team before season even started.

Yeah...but why? You know what I mean...this doesnt make sense as an outsider. Eric could lead the resurgence of the suns as the actual LEADER...

Like he didn’t have that with JW and Boogie...right now he is the man...right/?

I think it comes down to the same thing that has happened with several other players who just felt like they couldn't trust or were no longer a fan (if they ever were) of the FO. The FO likely mandated Watson sit Bledsoe down the stretch last year and it wouldn't shock me if Watson told Bledsoe he had no choice when delivering the news. Prior to that, Bledsoe loved the team, his teammates, being in Phx, had just bought a big house, etc.

Then he's in trade rumors all summer. Also, even though he was the Suns best player last year, Booker is the guy the team promotes, fan favorite, etc, which is probably somewhat irritating.

He loved Watson too and I think he saw much of the rest of the team turning on Watson and just finally had had enough of it all. There is now mention that Watson/McD had butted heads a few times in the past which makes some sense and he was one guy who was probably firmly in Watson's corner.

But apparently he asked out before the season. There may be something with Booker/Ulis being long time best friends, starting together down the stretch, and a bit of a locker room divide as well. Not sure about that though.

[CobraCommander]

Because Bledsoe quit on this team before season even started.

Yeah...but why? You know what I mean...this doesnt make sense as an outsider. Eric could lead the resurgence of the suns as the actual LEADER...

Like he didn’t have that with JW and Boogie...right now he is the man...right/?

I think it comes down to the same thing that has happened with several other players who just felt like they couldn't trust or were no longer a fan (if they ever were) of the FO. The FO likely mandated Watson sit Bledsoe down the stretch last year and it wouldn't shock me if Watson told Bledsoe he had no choice when delivering the news. Prior to that, Bledsoe loved the team, his teammates, being in Phx, had just bought a big house, etc.

Then he's in trade rumors all summer. Also, even though he was the Suns best player last year, Booker is the guy the team promotes, fan favorite, etc, which is probably somewhat irritating.

He loved Watson too and I think he saw much of the rest of the team turning on Watson and just finally had had enough of it all. There is now mention that Watson/McD had butted heads a few times in the past which makes some sense and he was one guy who was probably firmly in Watson's corner.

But apparently he asked out before the season. There may be something with Booker/Ulis being long time best friends, starting together down the stretch, and a bit of a locker room divide as well. Not sure about that though.

Thanks for the response. I hate seeing teams implode- and I have been a fan of Bledsoe for a longggg time so its just odd to see this happen from the outside.

[MrMiyagi]

Bledsoe and Booker could be one of the best backcourts in the league.. Why isnt it working out??? I dont get it? I watch enough suns game to know y’all have talent and with Bledsoe only being 27 I wonder if yall should get a better coach and keep the talent on the team. I just dont see how the suns get value for Bledsoe this early in the season...but SAC and Brooklyn are still available to trade with so anything can happen.

Because Bledsoe quit on this team before season even started.

Yeah...but why? You know what I mean...this doesnt make sense as an outsider. Eric could lead the resurgence of the suns as the actual LEADER...

Like he didn’t have that with JW and Boogie...right now he is the man...right/?

Bledsoe is a top-shelf competitor, meaning he competes hardest against people like CP3, Westbrooke, Kyrie, etc. I think he also looks at those guys and thinks he's just as good if not better than they are. I think he believes isn't recognized for being up there with those guys because he's on a bad team. So, rather than posting triple-doubles here every night in losing efforts, he wants to be traded to a better team.

I know this is pretty speculative and normally I don't like doing this kind of thing, but seeing that article from Zach Lowe where Bledsoe believes he's faster than John Wall as well as watching the difference between him playing against those top guards vs. the non-elite ones, I don't think it's much of a stretch.

[RunDogGun]

If Bledsoe really likes Watson, it seems rather stupid of Bledsoe to play so crappy over the three games, because that contributed to Watson’s firing.

Oh well, trade Bledsoe and get whatever decent value you can get. There is no point watching him half-ass it until he gets traded.

[CobraCommander]

Because Bledsoe quit on this team before season even started.

Yeah...but why? You know what I mean...this doesnt make sense as an outsider. Eric could lead the resurgence of the suns as the actual LEADER...

Like he didn’t have that with JW and Boogie...right now he is the man...right/?

Bledsoe is a top-shelf competitor, meaning he competes hardest against people like CP3, Westbrooke, Kyrie, etc. I think he also looks at those guys and thinks he's just as good if not better than they are. I think he believes isn't recognized for being up there with those guys because he's on a bad team. So, rather than posting triple-doubles here every night in losing efforts, he wants to be traded to a better team.

I know this is pretty speculative and normally I don't like doing this kind of thing, but seeing that article from Zach Lowe where Bledsoe believes he's faster than John Wall as well as watching the difference between him playing against those top guards vs. the non-elite ones, I don't think it's much of a stretch.

Well Bledsoe would actually know better than anyone if he is as fast as Wall considering how close they are...I’m sure they know the truth on speed. In regards to play, Bledsoe definitely thinks he is as good as ANYONE in the NBA. Any night of Bledsoe can torch them all... and Mr Booker is talent for real. which is why this issue doesnt seem like a talent issue- something is wrong at the top. Y’all better not let Eric roll for a second round draft pick...