Game Thread: Hawks @ Heat

Post #1 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:00 pm

The Heat lost their opener but bounced back to win Saturday night against the Indiana Pacers.

Atlanta, meanwhile, won its opener but has now lost two in a row, including Sunday afternoon at the Brooklyn Nets.

This can't be an easy stretch for the rebuilding Hawks, who are starting the season on a five-game road trip while Phillips Arena goes through a $190 million renovation.

The Hawks, to minimize their travel issues, planned to fly to Miami on Sunday night. But, even so, the Heat will be the more rested team in this battle. Adding to Atlanta's degree of difficulty for Monday night, the Hawks may be without point guard Dennis Schroder. He went down with a bruised left foot Sunday, and he had to be helped off the court with 3:37 left in the game.

He told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that he likely won't play Monday, though he hopes to return to action Thursday in Chicago. Schroder didn't believe the injury was serious.

Schroder would be a big loss. He is averaging 23.3 points and 6.7 assists. Even without finishing on Sunday, he still had 17 points and eight assists.

"It's our point guard. It's our leader -- you never want to see that," teammate John Collins said of the Schroder injury. "Hopefully, he'll be OK, (but) it looked bad."

CBS Sports

Post #2 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:01 pm

Read on Twitter

macd-gm · Post #3 » by **macd-gm** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:42 pm

5 game road trip, NY-Miami back to back. What a screw job.

I kind of expect slightly better play without Dennis. A little more of unselfish offense maybe?

Oh but we'll get killed.

Post #4 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:50 pm

Scouting report: Heat center Hassan Whiteside’s status for the contest is up in the air after he missed Saturday’s win over the Pacers with a bone bruise in his left knee. When asked if Whiteside would be available for Monday’s game, coach Erik Spoelstra said: “I don’t know. We’ll see.” … The Hawks are expected to be without point guard Dennis Schroder, who suffered a bone bruise in his left foot in Sunday’s loss to the Nets. Schroder averaged 15.7 points and 4.3 assists against the Heat last season.

The Heat and Hawks split the 2016-17 season series, 2-2, with Miami winning the last two matchups against Atlanta. Miami guards Goran Dragic, Tyler Johnson and Dion Waiters played well against the Hawks last season. Dragic averaged 21.7 points, Johnson averaged 18.8 points and Waiters averaged 15.0 points against Atlanta in 2016-17. … With a win over the Hawks on Monday, the Heat would be over .500 for the first time since last season’s first game. … Atlanta will be playing its third game in four days and the fourth game of a five-game road trip. The Hawks fell to the Nets 116-104 at Brooklyn on Sunday and fell to the Hornets 109-91 at Charlotte on Friday. Hawks rookie John Collins, who attended Cardinal Newman High School in West Palm Beach, is averaging 11.0 points and 6.7 rebounds in three games this season. Along with Schroder, Atlanta is expected to be without DeAndre’ Bembry (fractured right wrist) and Miles Plumlee (strained right quad). The Heat will also be without Rodney McGruder (leg).

Palm Beach Post

Spud2nique · Post #5 » by **Spud2nique** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:08 pm

Heat 108
Hawks 93

We lose despite Hassan being out. Too many weapons for the Heat starting with Dragic. It was tough enough with Dennis on him, now we have Delaneysucks on him...

Only way we win is if Dion Waiters finds his inner air Jordan and goes 8-27 fg...then we have a shot.

graymule · Post #6 » by **graymule** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:10 pm

Injury bug bites Hawks early and often. Just when we thought things couldn't get worse, it did.

5 on the road, then only one at home. I believe this one home game is against Millsap and his new team.

All Atlanta pro teams, except for soccer, seems to be in trouble, don't they. - :oops:

Maybe, after 15 or 20 games, things will settle down for the Hawks and they can win again. We hope so.

On the plus side, this season's team has hit a good % of their free throws !! -

GO ATL

Spud2nique · Post #7 » by **Spud2nique** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:11 pm

Collins slams on BAM BAM...he didn't get rival big man Jarrett Allen yesterday (almost)...but today he leaves a spalding imprint on Bam's forehead.

Note to Collins: Watch ur fellow Wake Forest alumni Duncan and use the glass every now n then...fans will think your smart. ;-)

Spud2nique · Post #8 » by **Spud2nique** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:13 pm

graymule wrote::noway:

Injury bug bites Hawks early and often. Just when we thought things couldn't get worse, it did.

5 on the road, then only one at home. I believe this one home game is against Millsap and his new team.

All Atlanta pro teams, except for soccer, seems to be in trouble, don't they. -

Maybe, after 15 or 20 games, things will settle down for the Hawks and they can win again. We hope so.

On the plus side, this season's team has hit a good % of their free throws !! -

GO ATL

I'm with you Gramps! I think ft's are a good indication of the team putting in some work in practice! Kudos.

Post #9 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:41 pm

Read on Twitter

jayu70 · Post #10 » by **jayu70** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:44 pm

Spud2nique wrote:Collins slams on BAM BAM...he didn't get rival big man Jarrett Allen yesterday (almost)...but today he leaves a spalding imprint on Bam's forehead.

Note to Collins: Watch ur fellow Wake Forest alumni Duncan and use the glass every now n then...fans will think your smart.

Don't tell mac-d that

. Dunk or nothing. :wink:

Post #11 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:21 pm

Read on Twitter

Who gets the start in Ilyasova's place?

Is it Collins? If he gets the nod, there's a chance he may not relinquish the starting role...

Has the tanking officially begun?

Read on Twitter

ducler · Post #12 » by **ducler** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:54 pm

macd-gm · Post #13 » by **macd-gm** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:10 pm

jayu70 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:Collins slams on BAM BAM...he didn't get rival big man Jarrett Allen yesterday (almost)...but today he leaves a spalding imprint on Bam's forehead.

Note to Collins: Watch ur fellow Wake Forest alumni Duncan and use the glass every now n then...fans will think your smart.

Don't tell mac-d that . Dunk or nothing.

Here's a list of exciting things to watch for at a Hawks game

1. Collins made dunk
2. Collins missed dunk
3. someone trying to intimidate Collins (don't work)
4. Marco 3 pointer
5. Collins layup
6. Dedmon 3 pointer
7. Collins fouling someone
8. Collins carrying a stack of sneakers
..
..
98. Dennis dribbling for 23 seconds
99. Baze airball a layup
100. Delaney dribbling for 23 seconds
102. Delaney running around aimlessly on D
103. Bud stink face

Post #14 » by **ATL Boy** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:47 pm

No Whiteside gives us a chance. I think we'll either get blown out of the water or we'll play one of the most beautiful forms of unselfish basketball I've ever seen, with all 5 players playing as if they share one mind, the kind of game which will be shown to youth teams all around the country as a prime of example of how to play Basketball, the kind of game which will give credence and justification for the game of basketball to supplant soccer as "The Beautiful Game"

But my money's on the blowout.

jayu70 · Post #15 » by **jayu70** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:14 pm

Read on Twitter

Blech!!!

Spud2nique · Post #16 » by **Spud2nique** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:42 pm

Having to watch the Heat broadcast with Eric Reid and Tony Fiorino is bad enough but now they did a pregame on James Johnson. Apparently he's like Michael Jordan down there..lol

Spud2nique · Post #17 » by **Spud2nique** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:57 pm

Heyyyyy...way to use the glass John Collins...see, it works!

Post #18 » by **ATL Boy** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:17 am

This is such bad basketball, we're such a bad basketball team and I'm upset with myself that I care this much about it.

Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums

Spud2nique · Post #19 » by **Spud2nique** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:24 am

ATL Boy wrote:This is such bad basketball, we're such a bad basketball team and I'm upset with myself that I care this much about it.

Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums

That's the grind of being a Hawkee fan. Give us a couple of years we will be good again :-)

Post #20 » by **ATL Boy** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:32 am

I'm already over this season.

Wayne Ellington has hit 6 three pointers in the 2nd quarter. Not once have we thought to double him, and he's been uncovered for almost every single one.

Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums