"A Nation Divided, Sports United" ~ The Equality & Other Issues Thread

[truth18]

Lol.

Brother, you need to read up on the basics of American politics and how the parties changed overtime.

Don't take this as an insult (you may not even be American), but you lack some very basic knowledge here that is neccesary to even participate in this discussion. Head down to the library or contact a history professor/college educated student among your family and friends and have them explain to you when and why the two parties radically shifted their culture and platforms. I would explain myself, but it's really basic stuff you should learn on your own.

Get informed and come back. It will make this easier to discuss. Cheers.

Okay, which party continues to repress African American

That would be a substantial portion of GOP leadership (NOT base) and the near entirety of the loud minority of Trump supporting GOP leaders and the base itself (which is, again, a loud minority).

You'll note that I say substantial and not all.

[theman]

Lol.

Brother, you need to read up on the basics of American politics and how the parties changed overtime.

Don't take this as an insult (you may not even be American), but you lack some very basic knowledge here that is neccesary to even participate in this discussion. Head down to the library or contact a history professor/college educated student among your family and friends and have them explain to you when and why the two parties radically shifted their culture and platforms. I would explain myself, but it's really basic stuff you should learn on your own.

Get informed and come back. It will make this easier to discuss. Cheers.

Okay, which party continues to repress African American

That would be a substantial portion of GOP leadership (NOT base) and the loud minority of Trump supporting GOP leaders and the base itself (which is, again, a loud minority).

The democrat party has hitch their wagon to having a large swath of Americans on welfare so they will continue to vote their way.

[Curmudgeon]

Too bad for the Democrats, since the majority of people on welfare are too young to vote.

[theman]

Lol.

Brother, you need to read up on the basics of American politics and how the parties changed overtime.

Don't take this as an insult (you may not even be American), but you lack some very basic knowledge here that is neccesary to even participate in this discussion. Head down to the library or contact a history professor/college educated student among your family and friends and have them explain to you when and why the two parties radically shifted their culture and platforms. I would explain myself, but it's really basic stuff you should learn on your own.

Get informed and come back. It will make this easier to discuss. Cheers.

Are you from Massachusetts?

Do you know who Thomas Finneran is?

[Curmudgeon]

Sure I know who Finneran is. I'm also familiar with some of the following names. Are you?
Dennis Hastert
Aaron Schock
Michael Flynn
William Bradford
Tom Price
Timothy Murphy
Ryan Loskarn
Chris Lee
Thaddeus McCotter
David Rivera
Rick Renzi
Trey Radel
John Ensign
Michael Grimm
Scott DesJarlais
Adam Kuhn

I've got about 40 other names but those should keep you busy on google for awhile.

[OFWGKTA]

Lol.

Brother, you need to read up on the basics of American politics and how the parties changed overtime.

Don't take this as an insult (you may not even be American), but you lack some very basic knowledge here that is neccesary to even participate in this discussion. Head down to the library or contact a history professor/college educated student among your family and friends and have them explain to you when and why the two parties radically shifted their culture and platforms. I would explain myself, but it's really basic stuff you should learn on your own.

Get informed and come back. It will make this easier to discuss. Cheers.

Are you from Massachusetts?

Do you know who Thomas Finneran is?

What's up with the deep state?

[Parliament10]

Lol.

Brother, you need to read up on the basics of American politics and how the parties changed overtime.

Don't take this as an insult (you may not even be American), but you lack some very basic knowledge here that is neccesary to even participate in this discussion. Head down to the library or contact a history professor/college educated student among your family and friends and have them explain to you when and why the two parties radically shifted their culture and platforms. I would explain myself, but it's really basic stuff you should learn on your own.

Get informed and come back. It will make this easier to discuss. Cheers.

Are you from Massachusetts?

Do you know who Thomas Finneran is?

What's all this got to do with Cops getting away with shooting Minorities, for practically No reason?
And the Basic injustices in the U.S.?

[Parliament10]

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2017

How long is this "Equality" thing going take?

[Captain_Caveman]

Lol.

Brother, you need to read up on the basics of American politics and how the parties changed overtime.

Don't take this as an insult (you may not even be American), but you lack some very basic knowledge here that is neccesary to even participate in this discussion. Head down to the library or contact a history professor/college educated student among your family and friends and have them explain to you when and why the two parties radically shifted their culture and platforms. I would explain myself, but it's really basic stuff you should learn on your own.

Get informed and come back. It will make this easier to discuss. Cheers.

Okay, which party continues to repress African American so they will continue to do their bidding, ie, keep reelecting them instead of allowing them to pull themselves out of poverty?

What in the **** are you even talking about? Republicans have no inclination to do anything for poor people of color. That’s a completely false take in every way.

[ermocrate]

Well, to shift the entire subject from the racism inherent to USA society to a Party War is something incorrect. USA was FOUDED on equality and WELFARE, all the person who doesn't respect that are either not American or against the Costitution.

Both Parties are the product of the constitution so there should be a different view on how to handle the Costitution Principles not a politic that goes against them. I think every person is responsible of his opinions whether is Party is.

The two American Parties should fill a resctricted (by the consitution) area of politics and can be somewhat inscribed in the two macro-categories of LEFT (Historically Progressists) and RIGHT (Historically Conservatories).

That said no Party has the right to be anti-egalitarian or anti-welfare so the atribution to one or the other party od this "quaity" is totally incorrect, obiusly any of the 2 party want to reach this goal in a different manner and I personally lean toward the progressive way but I can't even consider the fact that conservative are "BAD" and "RACIST" per se since this is not something that is (and eventually would be allowed to be) in the Party principle, it's a case to case scenario.

Now I can ague SOME of the Republicans are low-key racists but I really think also some Democrats are, this is why I think this is not a Party War and everyone that makes it a Party War unfortunately "falls" in the "RACIST" category. Beside the Police Brutality argument, that differentiates both parties for various reasons, there are two things (on wich both paties almost agree) that make US not respectful of his constitution (i'll leave out ill advised laws like "The Patriot Act") the big amount of money you need for Education and Medicare, this is not only a HUGE carrier of disequality but also puts an hostacle to society progression, it's a lose-lose situation.

Economical discrimination is the topic that everyone should be talking about and I'm not saying poor people should have access to 5 stars restaurants or something, just they should have the possibility to be cured and to colleges with no struggle whatsoever. Here we have a large number of Public Colleges with taxes that go from 370 to 3.970 euros and they are top hotch college, if you want you can go to Private Colleges too, they cost from 5.441 to 12.181 euros per year.

I con't understand why it's so difficult to aknowledge that.

[Curmudgeon]

Of course it's a party war. Show me a single Republican politician who supports Black Lives Matter or even the right to protest the mistreatment of young Black men during the anthem. It's just racists wrapping themselves in the flag.

Sure, there are racists from both parties, but at the moment the political divisions are as stark as they have been in American history.

The Italian controversy about constitutional "reform" (basically a power grab by Renzi) was not nearly as divisive as Trump's policies.

[ermocrate]

Of course it's a party war. Show me a single Republican politician who supports Black Lives Matter or even the right to protest the mistreatment of young Black men during the anthem. It's just racists wrapping themselves in the flag.

Sure, there are racists from both parties, but at the moment the political divisions are as stark as they have been in American history.

The Italian controversy about constitutional "reform" (basically a power grab by Renzi) was not nearly as divisive as Trump's policies.

Well, they have ways to escape the argument stating "supposed" facts, they are not saying Black people shouldn't be treated equally, they are saying (and it's a lie that someone akwnoledges and someone not) they ARE actually treated equally. When you hear Police officers say that there's a bias toward blacks(being potential criminals) there's nothing really to discuss, but the fact is that discrimination is something not allowed from the costitution so they keep making excuses and fabricating thruts, Politicians are not THE PEOPLE tho, most of them belong to an entirely different "race" most of wich needs to be slaughtered.

I continue to see the economical inequality as the root of all the problems because if you allow minorities to elevate themselves in a reasonable number of years nobody would think(and I agree they shouldn't been thinking it right now) that 4 black males in a car at midnight are "suspects". Nobody would have an excuse (and I don't give anyone that excuse even right now) to think that a race may be "more dangerous" that another.

[FakeScreenName123]

"discrimination"

lol

[ermocrate]

"discrimination"

lol

Yeah I missed it on the quote...

[Curmudgeon]

Since when was discrimination barred by the U.S. Constitution? As originally drafted, the Constitution counted Black slaves as 3/5ths of a person. And the constitution did not forbid Jim Crow laws relegating Blacks to second class status. The first such law was passed in 1876 and the last one persisted well into the 1960s.

It was the 1964 civil rights act that eliminated de jure discrimination in the U.S., not the constitution, although the equal protection clause (passed right after the civil war) definitely helped.

Blacks have never been treated equally in the U.S.and every Black knows it, along with people of every race that don't have their heads buried in the sand.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Lol.

Brother, you need to read up on the basics of American politics and how the parties changed overtime.

Don't take this as an insult (you may not even be American), but you lack some very basic knowledge here that is neccesary to even participate in this discussion. Head down to the library or contact a history professor/college educated student among your family and friends and have them explain to you when and why the two parties radically shifted their culture and platforms. I would explain myself, but it's really basic stuff you should learn on your own.

Get informed and come back. It will make this easier to discuss. Cheers.

Okay, which party continues to repress African American so they will continue to do their bidding, ie, keep reelecting them instead of allowing them to pull themselves out of poverty?

What in the **** are you even talking about? Republicans have no inclination to do anything for poor people of color. That’s a completely false take in every way.

“allowing them to pull themselves out of poverty”?

[Ed Pinkney]

Okay, which party continues to repress African American so they will continue to do their bidding, ie, keep reelecting them instead of allowing them to pull themselves out of poverty?

What in the **** are you even talking about? Republicans have no inclination to do anything for poor people of color. That’s a completely false take in every way.

“allowing them to pull themselves out of poverty”?

That statement (plus a few others) stood out to me too.

[Froob]

Of course it's a party war. Show me a single Republican politician who supports Black Lives Matter or even the right to protest the mistreatment of young Black men during the anthem. It's just racists wrapping themselves in the flag.

Sure, there are racists from both parties, but at the moment the political divisions are as stark as they have been in American history.

The Italian controversy about constitutional "reform" (basically a power grab by Renzi) was not nearly as divisive as Trump's policies.

Should move on from parties all together, a lot of people just want their party to win and don't care that much about the good of the country. It's basically sports.

[CavemanDoctor]

Okay, which party continues to repress African American so they will continue to do their bidding, ie, keep reelecting them instead of allowing them to pull themselves out of poverty?

What in the **** are you even talking about? Republicans have no inclination to do anything for poor people of color. That’s a completely false take in every way.

“allowing them to pull themselves out of poverty”?

Yeah, you know, just stop being so lazy. That'll totally grant you the American Dream.

[sam_I_am]

Of course it's a party war. Show me a single Republican politician who supports Black Lives Matter or even the right to protest the mistreatment of young Black men during the anthem. It's just racists wrapping themselves in the flag.

Sure, there are racists from both parties, but at the moment the political divisions are as stark as they have been in American history.

The Italian controversy about constitutional "reform" (basically a power grab by Renzi) was not nearly as divisive as Trump's policies.

Should move on from parties all together, a lot of people just want their party to win and don't care that much about the good of the country. It's basically sports.

You are so right.

Fox News bashes Weinstein on a daily basis - who deserves it of course - only because he is a Democratic funder but refuses to comment on Bill O’Reilly 32 million dollar settlement. Plenty of examples on MSNBC too of overreporting the “other side”..

When sexual assault can only be covered if the assailant is from the other party, things have reached a preposterous state.

I am utterly sick of seeing every issue only through the lens of politics whether it is on the news or on Facebook.