All Things Luka Doncic

[J_T]

I will watch closely NCAA this season too. But only on replay, not direct stream in real time.

So I could replay at 1.33x speed.

Much more interesting to watch Philippines. Some of the craziest games ever. Reminds me of NCAA in more than one way.

becoming Real's main creator has really helped his scoring volume, aggressiveness and variety. Starting to really develop both a power and finesse post game, plus actually consistently trying to attack the rim in the half court.

Yeah, although the playing time is still controlled and due to all the injuries he has been forced to play all kind of positions. He looked very positionless in large chunks of the game.

his preference for the two-foot gather is still a concern for me. two potential easy layups blocked because he didn't get the footwork right to elevate off one foot. Hopefully this can be trained out of him.

I think footwork in general is something where he still has a lot of room to progress, both in defense and offense.

[ProfessorJM]

Tbh your reply is what is clueless and ignorant. I stated Hezonja was "bigger, quicker, stronger", i'm glad you let off some steam though chump. Try add some discussion in other than a pointless idiotic thought.

After equating Doncic and Hezonja despite their playing styles not being even remotely similar, you said "The young Bulls forward looks good though but he's 7 feet", as if he's somehow relevant, and then said "Forgot about Giannis but he's not white".

You've completely eradicated your credibility when it comes to European prospects with your senseless drivel that paints all white European basketball players with the same brush. Nobody will take you seriously. Tough break.

I have to highlight this post because it's almost the exact impression I got as well. I did not infer any actual racist intent at all but I did infer that someone was completely ignorant speaking about Euro prospects having neither watched any of these prospects nor understanding the various ways to compare/contrast players whether from Europe, America, or anywhere else.

[JojoSlimbiid]

He's the best NBA draft prospect that is currently playing games as of October 25th, sure. Anything other than that is presumptuous at best.

[Marcus]

I hope we are all in agreement that Porter and Ayton really has no chance to be #1.

Unless Bagley plays like a hybrid of Anthony Davis meets Kevin Garnett, Doncic is going #1.

I wouldn't say no chance for Ayton. Porter maybe, but if scouts were saying he would go first in 2017 then he may already be solidified.

I do think Ayton running on full motor probably lands first. There's just too much to like when he's playing hard and size still matters in the league when we're talking this level of skill. But he wont be able to take any games off this year in order to keep it.

[Genjuro]

As I always say, unless he shows the ability to consistently beat his match-ups one-on-one, and he doesn't look anywhere near right now, his potential as an NBA superstar seems limited to me. However, I would say his floor is the highest I ever remember from a European prospect.

[stitches]

Hezonja and Doncic have so little in common in their games. Their strengths and weaknesses are practically polar opposites. I have no idea what people see in this comparison. To me it's ludicrous. And I actually was high on Hezonja(for different reasons than the ones I'm high on Doncic).

[FinallyImHere]

FALSE. He looks slow I don't see what's so special about him looks very average.

[Johnny Bball]

Funny. You cannot be the best prospect these days if there are questions about your quickness.

[ProfessorJM]

I was curious and looked up various mock drafts as of right now -- granted these of course can change and the quality of sites may vary, but interesting anyway... (Doncic status)

theringer - # 1
NBA Draft net - # 5
CBS Sports - # 5
Tankathon.com - # 3
Bleacher Report - # 1
NBC Sports - # 4

[Mulhollanddrive]

Gallinari can average 18.

[xBulletproof]

Im not sure if he's the best prospect, but I'm a believer. I keep hoping NBA GM's screw this up because I don't think my Pacers will be bad enough to be in the top 5, but maybe 6-10 range. I keep hoping we are there, and he falls there.

It would be the most excited I've been since the Paul George pick. Which local radio hosts saw my Facebook post about the PG13 pick and roasted me. Then 3 years later I heard him on his radio show say he only gives 1 guy credit in all of Indiana for calling that and thinks everyone else is making it up that they wanted Paul George. Let's do that again with Luka.

Yeah I don't mean to be a party pooper but I really, really don't see IND being a bottom 5 team. Not trying to be a jerk but your franchise (like mine) never really commits to a true tank. Unfortunately I think you guys are FAR more likely looking at or at least hoping to have a chance at Knox but imo much more likely looking at players like Sexton and Duval, simply because I think you'll hover around 7-12.

CHI, ATL, SAC, PHX are pretty much guaranteed to be worse which I'm almost certainly means Porter Jr, Doncic, Bagley and Ayton will be gone. I also think you'll be better than NYK and BKN/CLE (Knox) which of course puts you 7+ at best. It's really up in the air imo between your team, ORL, DET, LAL and DAL for the next 5 spots and I really don't see you guys being the worst of that bunch personally.

That's actually exactly what I said.

[HollowEarth]

Don't think he has a higher ceiling than Michael Porter, Marvin Bagley, DeAndre Ayton or Mohamed Bamba. That being said, his floor is probably higher than all of them. You can't teach the motor he has, the guy is a fighter.

Going off of that:

If you were drafting number one and you had a guy like Hakeem and a guy like Michael Jordan in the same draft, is it ever a bad move to draft the sure thing? Like, in hindsight MJ was the better choice, but did Houston still make the right choice? They bet on a sure thing and made the finals four times over two decades.

[CoreyVillains]

I think it would help those who think he is the best prospect in the world to explain what his roof is.

Saying he’s the best prospect in the world but then comparing him to Ricky Rubio and Goran Dragić doesn’t really help your case.


I’m kind of curious myself where some of you think he could be in peak form. I outlined what I think results in all star dudes out of Europe and he doesn’t really check any of my boxes, doesn’t mean he can’t achieve that level. I just don’t see it happening for him.

If he maximizes his potential youre probably looking at a 6'8" Steve Nash. The way he plays the P&R is insane for an 18 year old. Like Rubio, he is an absolutely brilliant passer, but Doncic can shoot the **** out of the ball. Off the dribble, off a screen, or catch and shoot. With range too. He's 18 with a great basketball body, when he gets with NBA trainers and enters his 20's he's gonna be a tank. He moves really well laterally too so I think he's going to be more than fine defensively. He is the best prospect in the world and any GM that passes on him (especially in this era of NBA basketball) is absolutely nuts.

[RSCD3_]

The hezonja comparison makes total sense, if you assume doncic has the exact same skill level as hezonja did.

I dont know why athletic white wings tend to either be lazy or really law from a skill perspective but you just essentially pulled a " well how can lonzo ball be good if elfrid payton was more athletic and hasnt been good?"

[KokoKaizer]

Manu Ginobili, Peja Stojakovic and Drazen Petrovic are enough to put your white Euro wings can't be great in the NBA myth to bed. Ginobili has Italian ancestry and came to prominence in Italy, so don't dare to use the he's Argentinian card, when you've clearly made ethnicity a central theme of your argument.

Manu is Argentinian(yes i will play the Argentinian card if thats what he claims he is and was born there), Drazen unfortunately passed away early, might have been an all time great. Peja was a BIG that could shoot.

Kukoc
Divac
Ginobily
Parker
Gasols
Dirk
Drazen
Sabonis
Peja
Dragic
Kirilenko
Turkoglu
Radja
Rubio
Batum
(isnt Gobert French?)
Belinelli


I've seen stupidity but this is too much.

Born in Saint Quentin, France

[PhilBlackson]

Im not sure if he's the best prospect, but I'm a believer. I keep hoping NBA GM's screw this up because I don't think my Pacers will be bad enough to be in the top 5, but maybe 6-10 range. I keep hoping we are there, and he falls there.

It would be the most excited I've been since the Paul George pick. Which local radio hosts saw my Facebook post about the PG13 pick and roasted me. Then 3 years later I heard him on his radio show say he only gives 1 guy credit in all of Indiana for calling that and thinks everyone else is making it up that they wanted Paul George. Let's do that again with Luka.

Yeah I don't mean to be a party pooper but I really, really don't see IND being a bottom 5 team. Not trying to be a jerk but your franchise (like mine) never really commits to a true tank. Unfortunately I think you guys are FAR more likely looking at or at least hoping to have a chance at Knox but imo much more likely looking at players like Sexton and Duval, simply because I think you'll hover around 7-12.

CHI, ATL, SAC, PHX are pretty much guaranteed to be worse which I'm almost certainly means Porter Jr, Doncic, Bagley and Ayton will be gone. I also think you'll be better than NYK and BKN/CLE (Knox) which of course puts you 7+ at best. It's really up in the air imo between your team, ORL, DET, LAL and DAL for the next 5 spots and I really don't see you guys being the worst of that bunch personally.

That's actually exactly what I said.

I know , I just felt like breaking it down why it's so incredibly unlikely you end up with Doncic, no offense.

[BlazersBroncos]

I am hesitant to proclaim him a potential superstar caliber player. He has clear limitations. But he is a guy that has a VERY high floor IMO and I would be surprised if he isn't able to become a middle-to-high tier #2 option on a championship caliber team. I just hesitate the idea of him as a #1, but also only see a handful of true #1 options out there.

I can seem him being a similar player to Brandon Roy in all honesty. Less explosive offensively (Then again, Roy was more finess than explosive, he rarely utilized his 40+ inch vert) but a better, higher volume 3PT shooter.

[leolozon]

I always hear bout these legends like Dragon b3nder and Mario and all these guys and there garbage

Please find any quote saying that Bender and Hezonja were "legends". You are a liar and as such, you are worthless in this discussion.

Doncic is probably the best euro prospect of at least the past 10 years. Bender and Hezonja were never seen as such.

Does it mean that Doncic is going to pan out? No. But I'm sure you don't think that all tall American players will fail because some became bust. Am I right? So why are you being so lazy when it comes to Euros?

Settle down spaz

So, do you think that an Ad hominem attack gives you the upper hand? You could have just admitted your ignorance instead of thinking that a simple insult can be considered an argument. Cut your losses.

[walk with me]

I think it would help those who think he is the best prospect in the world to explain what his roof is.

Saying he’s the best prospect in the world but then comparing him to Ricky Rubio and Goran Dragić doesn’t really help your case.


I’m kind of curious myself where some of you think he could be in peak form. I outlined what I think results in all star dudes out of Europe and he doesn’t really check any of my boxes, doesn’t mean he can’t achieve that level. I just don’t see it happening for him.

If he maximizes his potential youre probably looking at a 6'8" Steve Nash. The way he plays the P&R is insane for an 18 year old. Like Rubio, he is an absolutely brilliant passer, but Doncic can shoot the **** out of the ball. Off the dribble, off a screen, or catch and shoot. With range too. He's 18 with a great basketball body, when he gets with NBA trainers and enters his 20's he's gonna be a tank. He moves really well laterally too so I think he's going to be more than fine defensively. He is the best prospect in the world and any GM that passes on him (especially in this era of NBA basketball) is absolutely nuts.

So basically magic Johnson with a jump shot?

[mcmurphy]

TRUE

Last evening vs Armani Milano (Euroleague)

27 pts (5/9 2P, 2/5 3P, 11/12 FT), 8 reb, 5 ast, 3 stl in 28 min at 18 years old

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