Game 4: Denver Nuggets @ Charlotte Hornets 5pmMT

[ducler]

[SoCalNuggsFan]

Seems like no one on this team besides Jokic has had a good shooting night yet this year. Meanwhile kaminsky is hitting 3s and fadeaway 18 footers

[THE J0KER]

Under-40 points in a halftime where we have 15 offensive rebounds!?

Is this real??

32% FG% is too bad even for 3pt% standards...

Also, with non-existing defense we allow opponent about 60% FG%.

[NuggetsWY]

Seems like no one on this team besides Jokic has had a good shooting night yet this year. Meanwhile kaminsky is hitting 3s and fadeaway 18 footers

Have you watched any of the games? There's a guy named Barton that outshot the rest of the team in games 1 & 2. He did have a bad game in game 3 but ...

[DunkingDude]

man first half looked ugly, can only get better in the second half.

[Lala870]

lol

[SoCalNuggsFan]

Seems like no one on this team besides Jokic has had a good shooting night yet this year. Meanwhile kaminsky is hitting 3s and fadeaway 18 footers

Have you watched any of the games? There's a guy named Barton that outshot the rest of the team in games 1 & 2. He did have a bad game in game 3 but ...

I’ve watched every game. As I do every year. Barton had a great 1st half of game 1, which I admittedly forgot about. He had I think 2 points after halftime and shot 6/13 for 15 points in game 2.

He also airballed the 3 that prompted my post.

[Popovich]

I did not expect this , is Charlotte this strong?

[The Rebel]

I did not expect this , is Charlotte this strong?

No off the ball movement, too many guys trying to create their own offense and not playing in a system, lack of a real system, lack of shooting off the bench, 2 many guys trying to be in the same spots, to much Plumlee and Jokic, Chandler pouting, and a terrible lack of toughness around our stars all add up to a terrible team. This is on the coach and front office, and this team is in trouble.

[Mickey8]

This team desperately need good coach and PG, at this point I would include Murray in trade for Bledsoe, I think he's way too overrated among Denver fans.

[The Rebel]

I said last year this team needed a tough guy like Ingles, I said early and late in the offseason that we needed that type, and we needed to upgrade Chandler, and many have said that we should be looking at Malone, is it possible that we were all right, and the front office and coaching staff have **** this team up worried abut being nice instead of doing what is right by this team. Chandler needs to be gone, Faried needs to be in the rotation more, Plumlee needs to be limited and then traded, and Barton needs to be traded somewhere that he can fit in the offense. We need toughness and guys who can and will fit in a system that works with our keepers, a big physical backup C, a tough SF that can hit outside shots, and a guy who will protect Jokic, Harris, and Murray at all costs. OR we may end up in the early lottery, of course we are headed that way anyways so why not take a shot at building a real good team.

[U hova]

Josh Kroenke is too busy giving his friends contracts to care about the Nuggets future.

[The Rebel]

Josh Kroenke is too busy giving his friends contracts to care about the Nuggets future.

You know this front office has been great at finding young talent, even Joffrey a late 2nd round pick is still hanging around the league, but now that they need to take the next step I have very little faith in them. Our coach sucks and their moves of the alst year have been worse.

[THE J0KER]

This team desperately need good coach and PG, at this point I would include Murray in trade for Bledsoe, I think he's way too overrated among Denver fans.

Murray is in best case scenario future all-star, and Bledsoe is not Butler/Irving level, so such prospect like Murray should be out of table from Bledsoe deal. Murray talent and skills are not overrated, but I think Denver fans tends to be delusional about expectations from him in next two seasons when he will be just 20 and 21 old.

BTW, I checked now Murray+Mudiay combined stats so far this season. In about 45+ minutes per game they shoot so far awful 26/83 around 30%!? I see big PG problem is coming to us this season, but I didn't think it will be even close this bad.

[Mickey8]

Murray is supposed to be dead eye shooter but I haven't seen that marksmanship with him, he had some games when he goes off but most of the time he's a disappointment on the offense , also his decision making isn't that great, he has no future at PG position. Malone wont survive this season, he has no idea how to coach the team , look like he has 0 authority with his players , the way he degraded offense from the last season is just sad.

[THE J0KER]

Look how James Harden started his career, with about 10ppg and 2ast playing 25mpg during first two seasons, with just flashes of the future all-star player, and look him now!

We need patience with Murray, which doesn't mean to be patient one week or month when he underperforming, but whole this and 1st half of the next season to not put extra pressure on him.

[skywalker33]

I said last year this team needed a tough guy like Ingles, I said early and late in the offseason that we needed that type, and we needed to upgrade Chandler, and many have said that we should be looking at Malone, is it possible that we were all right, and the front office and coaching staff have **** this team up worried abut being nice instead of doing what is right by this team. Chandler needs to be gone, Faried needs to be in the rotation more, Plumlee needs to be limited and then traded, and Barton needs to be traded somewhere that he can fit in the offense. We need toughness and guys who can and will fit in a system that works with our keepers, a big physical backup C, a tough SF that can hit outside shots, and a guy who will protect Jokic, Harris, and Murray at all costs. OR we may end up in the early lottery, of course we are headed that way anyways so why not take a shot at building a real good team.

Wasn't Milsap the guy we brought in to add toughness to this team ?? I have been an advocate of Malone to some extent, but it looks like he's lost this team much as the early stages of Shaw demise. Continued apathetic effort by most outside of Jokic, Harris an Beasley, those seem to be the only hungry players on the floor.

[NuggetsWY]

I don't think Malone can deal well with the "tough guys" - but that's just a feeling, not too much to base it on except for Nurkic and the players they've added/drafted.

[Powder Blue]

How long before the “It’s early, they’ll figure it out” excuse isn’t valid? The money they saved by not paying D’Antonio sure looks worth it right now.

[kinggnik87]

Even from last season I can see that we need a culture change in this team. We lack a tough/alpha guy who can rally the troops to promote unity and to look at each others' back. The addition of Millsap isn't sufficient (Millsap is unfortunately, a nice/passive guy). This also has a lot to do with the culture.

The loss of Chris Finch too is a factor, though this is only the 4th game of the season, we should give some more games before weighing on this factor.

A lot of the current performance has got to do with Malone as well, he needs to improve fast, we don't want to listen to his well-spoken interviews. We want results.


Edit: a word