Eric Bledsoe

[lilfishi22]

Even if it was true, it's a stunningly stupid thing to say and part ways with a player. I mean, it's mind-blowing that our front office would be this unprofessional.

Could've easily just agreed with Bledsoe that it was time for both parties to move on and left it at that. The fact that this extra tidbit had been leaked just adds insult to injury to the Suns' once great reputation.

Personally I'm fed up with these players and perhaps even more with their agents. I think McD is also and I congratulate him for calling it out.

Reputation is overrated in my view. What is the reputation anyway, that we roll over to every whim of these divas? The Suns are one of a very few entities in this world offering to pay these clowns tens of millions of dollars to move a ball around, no further incentive is warranted.

When a clown is unhappy and wants to cry in public about it then professionalism is already out the window. Just usher in the next clown and hope it works out better, we will find no shortage of them.

I have no issue with him indirectly calling out Rich Paul and saying Bledsoe got bad advice but this comment about how we weren't getting better with him as a PG is just stupid.

You're trying to trade this player to other teams while at the same time you're making comments to diminish its value


And are we really going to point our finger at every disgruntled player that's left the Suns or requested a trade and not for one second think maybe you're part of the problem?

[ryanball]

I have no issue with him indirectly calling out Rich Paul and saying Bledsoe got bad advice but this comment about how we weren't getting better with him as a PG is just stupid.

You're trying to trade this player to other teams while at the same time you're making comments to diminish its value

Yeah that's a good point.

On the other hand, everyone routinely assumes every public utterance regarding trades is a smokescreen or misdirection or whatever. In the end what we say about him doesn't matter that much, because if we talk him up everyone knows its just us trying to raise his value. His stats and performance is there for everyone to see.

And are we really going to point our finger at every disgruntled player that's left the Suns or requested a trade and not for one second think maybe you're part of the problem?

Oh I know the Suns organization is part of the problem. But maybe one of the many problems has been letting these idiots run their mouths without ever responding in kind.

[lilfishi22]

I have no issue with him indirectly calling out Rich Paul and saying Bledsoe got bad advice but this comment about how we weren't getting better with him as a PG is just stupid.

You're trying to trade this player to other teams while at the same time you're making comments to diminish its value

Yeah that's a good point.

On the other hand, everyone routinely assumes every public utterance regarding trades is a smokescreen or misdirection or whatever. In the end what we say about him doesn't matter that much, because if we talk him up everyone knows its just us trying to raise his value. His stats and performance is there for everyone to see.

And are we really going to point our finger at every disgruntled player that's left the Suns or requested a trade and not for one second think maybe you're part of the problem?

Oh I know the Suns organization is part of the problem. But maybe one of the many problems has been letting these idiots run their mouths without ever responding in kind.

You're right if we talk him up but when a team talks negatively about a player, what does that do for us? How is it a smokescreen or misdirection? It doesn't artificially raise the player's value...it diminishes it. So I don't agree that it doesn't matter what is being said.

We've talked negatively about Dragic and Kieff (I believe) when we finally moved on from them. It's done nothing for us from a reputation standpoint. Just makes us look petty

[carey]

Anyone else think Rich Paul is in over his head? KCP had to settle for that one year deal. If he thinks Bledsoe is getting max in 2 years he's crazy. Once LeBron signs that last long deal before retirement his influence in the league will be done.

[Revived]

If we're doing a trade with the Cavs for Bledsoe, I'm really intrigued by Zizic.

He can be that franchise center for us.

[jcsunsfan]

I have no issue with him indirectly calling out Rich Paul and saying Bledsoe got bad advice but this comment about how we weren't getting better with him as a PG is just stupid.

You're trying to trade this player to other teams while at the same time you're making comments to diminish its value

Yeah that's a good point.

On the other hand, everyone routinely assumes every public utterance regarding trades is a smokescreen or misdirection or whatever. In the end what we say about him doesn't matter that much, because if we talk him up everyone knows its just us trying to raise his value. His stats and performance is there for everyone to see.

And are we really going to point our finger at every disgruntled player that's left the Suns or requested a trade and not for one second think maybe you're part of the problem?

Oh I know the Suns organization is part of the problem. But maybe one of the many problems has been letting these idiots run their mouths without ever responding in kind.

You're right if we talk him up but when a team talks negatively about a player, what does that do for us? How is it a smokescreen or misdirection? It doesn't artificially raise the player's value...it diminishes it. So I don't agree that it doesn't matter what is being said.

We've talked negatively about Dragic and Kieff (I believe) when we finally moved on from them. It's done nothing for us from a reputation standpoint. Just makes us look petty

I don’t see it as petty. Without explanation these situations are inexplicable and would lead to wild speculation by press and fans. Goran ripped the team and they defended themselves. McD was hugely restrained in the Markieff situation. And letting everyone know that Bled was asking g for an extension put the for sale sign out and got things moving. Besides Bled was dogging it in the games. Other players hate that.


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[jcsunsfan]

Anyone else think Rich Paul is in over his head? KCP had to settle for that one year deal. If he thinks Bledsoe is getting max in 2 years he's crazy. Once LeBron signs that last long deal before retirement his influence in the league will be done.

Yes. No one is giving Bledsoe a max deal.


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[Banana Milk]

Anyone else think Rich Paul is in over his head? KCP had to settle for that one year deal. If he thinks Bledsoe is getting max in 2 years he's crazy. Once LeBron signs that last long deal before retirement his influence in the league will be done.

Yes. No one is giving Bledsoe a max deal.


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Add to KCP, Shabazz Muhammed had to take a 1 year vet min. Nerlens Noel rejected $17.5m per year extension from the Mavs and took the QO.

Not a great recent history of getting the best for his portfolio of players - unless these gambles pay off next off season. I think he is already fast losing his influence. Wherever Bledsoe goes, he would be hard pressed to receive a max extension.

Other than Simmons and Wall, the rest of his stable don't have much value. Saul Goodman could get Simmons and Wall Max extensions...

[garrick]

How is McD calling out Bledsoe helping the Suns get equal value in a trade deal?

I agree with what he's saying but that doesn't mean he should say that publicly and make the team and Bledsoe look bad, I like his personnel moves for the most part but his maturity is a little lacking imo.

[Saberestar]

#wewillnotforgetyoubled

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

How is McD calling out Bledsoe helping the Suns get equal value in a trade deal?

I agree with what he's saying but that doesn't mean he should say that publicly and make the team and Bledsoe look bad, I like his personnel moves for the most part but his maturity is a little lacking imo.

This is what everyone's saying, but the 'lowball' offers I see getting thrown around in the media are better than what I might have expected. People aren't talking about his bad defense or his injuries; they're talking about how we've mismanaged him.

We'll see! Sunday at 2 AM!

[Hesh]

one thing about McD that stands out is that he is super salty and needs to get it off his chest

[bwgood77]

How is McD calling out Bledsoe helping the Suns get equal value in a trade deal?

I agree with what he's saying but that doesn't mean he should say that publicly and make the team and Bledsoe look bad, I like his personnel moves for the most part but his maturity is a little lacking imo.

This is what everyone's saying, but the 'lowball' offers I see getting thrown around in the media are better than what I might have expected. People aren't talking about his bad defense or his injuries; they're talking about how we've mismanaged him.

We'll see! Sunday at 2 AM!

What's Sunday at 2AM?

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

How is McD calling out Bledsoe helping the Suns get equal value in a trade deal?

I agree with what he's saying but that doesn't mean he should say that publicly and make the team and Bledsoe look bad, I like his personnel moves for the most part but his maturity is a little lacking imo.

This is what everyone's saying, but the 'lowball' offers I see getting thrown around in the media are better than what I might have expected. People aren't talking about his bad defense or his injuries; they're talking about how we've mismanaged him.

We'll see! Sunday at 2 AM!

What's Sunday at 2AM?

McD's entry into the radio studio pool regarding the date/time Bled gets traded.

... I should add that there was one outlier re Bledsoe offers: Emin. Suggesting we might take other unwanted contracts in return. Does anyone in this league still not believe Ryan McDonough if he says he will hold on and wait for the deal if he has to?

I really hope we keep playing like this. It makes it easier to keep Tyson on board, makes re-signing Alex more sensible. Frees us up to go chase another PG if that becomes the more sensible route. Most importantly, improves the value of every player on our roster.

[kennydorglas]

So Lonzo failed to score against any defender not named Bledsoe?

[Fo-Real]

Ryan should have taken the high road but I see why he has come out on the offensive. The organization was taking a beating **** the perceived reasons on Bledso asking out, Ryan has simply decided to tell his side of the truth and let the public decide on their own with the facts. Someone finally pointing out the delusions of Klutch and the dirty **** Rich Paul has been pulling is refreshing, i applaud the honesty and light shining on Paul. Everyone here feels Klutch is bull, why should we fault Ryan for feeling the same? I'm glad he is outing them and the tactics being used, I hope this empowers others owners and teams to stand up against them instead of giving in because he thinks he can just make us look bad. He has been trying to hold orginazations hostage, **** him!

[bwgood77]

This is what everyone's saying, but the 'lowball' offers I see getting thrown around in the media are better than what I might have expected. People aren't talking about his bad defense or his injuries; they're talking about how we've mismanaged him.

We'll see! Sunday at 2 AM!

What's Sunday at 2AM?

McD's entry into the radio studio pool regarding the date/time Bled gets traded.

... I should add that there was one outlier re Bledsoe offers: Emin. Suggesting we might take other unwanted contracts in return. Does anyone in this league still not believe Ryan McDonough if he says he will hold on and wait for the deal if he has to?

I really hope we keep playing like this. It makes it easier to keep Tyson on board, makes re-signing Alex more sensible. Frees us up to go chase another PG if that becomes the more sensible route. Most importantly, improves the value of every player on our roster.

I just wonder who we would waive or trade with him if it's a one for two or two for three. Peters? I don't know since he's on a 2 way contract. Jones? He kind of seems out of the rotation.

I wonder if the TWolves would think about it for Dieng and Jones....maybe more Teague to sixth man. I don't necessarily think Bledsoe is a great fit there since Teague is playing well, Jones is a good backup, etc, but Dieng hasn't been playing much since Taj got there. Bledsoe might be too ball dominant though with Butler, Wiggins, etc also around.

[bwgood77]

So Lonzo failed to score against any defender not named Bledsoe?

So many things not helping his trade value. His poor play, not caring, tweeting he wants out, McD saying he already wants a big extension, people knowing Rich Paul, oversaturation of good point guards, so many people not able to trade yet.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

What's Sunday at 2AM?

McD's entry into the radio studio pool regarding the date/time Bled gets traded.

... I should add that there was one outlier re Bledsoe offers: Emin. Suggesting we might take other unwanted contracts in return. Does anyone in this league still not believe Ryan McDonough if he says he will hold on and wait for the deal if he has to?

I really hope we keep playing like this. It makes it easier to keep Tyson on board, makes re-signing Alex more sensible. Frees us up to go chase another PG if that becomes the more sensible route. Most importantly, improves the value of every player on our roster.

I just wonder who we would waive or trade with him if it's a one for two or two for three. Peters? I don't know since he's on a 2 way contract. Jones? He kind of seems out of the rotation.

I wonder if the TWolves would think about it for Dieng and Jones....maybe more Teague to sixth man. I don't necessarily think Bledsoe is a great fit there since Teague is playing well, Jones is a good backup, etc, but Dieng hasn't been playing much since Taj got there. Bledsoe might be too ball dominant though with Butler, Wiggins, etc also around.

I've considered that deal as well. It makes sense if we don't intend to keep one of Chriss or Len, and if we're convinced that Jones is a better prospect than Ulis - a plausible view, but it would be disappointing.

I think Peters can be waived or moved for nothing. I think we're trying to deal Dudley largely in order to create a roster spot. I'd prefer to move DJJ to a team lacking length, defense, athleticism and looking for a project - perhaps a sweetener to take a contract like Aldrich's.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Peters isn't taking up a spot on the 15 man roster because he's on a 2 way contract. James is too and will need to be put on the 15 man roster or let go in 42 days. Jones is the obvious guy who might be let go to clear a spot for James or the extra guy they acquire in a 2 for 1 bledsoe deal. Does anyone know if they would be allowed to give Jones a 2 way contract after he clears waivers if they did it for james opening up that 2nd 2way slot?

Another contract logistical question - if they did a 2 or 3 for 1 in the bledsoe trade and were taking back a couple of expirings of guys they didnt plan on keeping are they allowed to do the trade and instantly waive those guys or would they need to clear spots on the 15 man roster first and then get rid of those guys?

They are in a bit of a roster crunch with 3 guys in reed, knight, and williams hurt and I would assume they keep all 3. I guess a buy out of knight is possible but it kind of sucks to lose the ability to use his contract in a future trade and its a lot of money to eat. Daniels would be the other guy who could possibly be released if they got a SG back in the bledsoe deal.

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