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Post#1081 » by TheSparkleKing » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:35 pm

Roy Tarpley wrote:Levert's aggressiveness is key. He's just a 2nd year, he'll make lots of mistakes. But he can't let his confidence or aggressiveness get down. His % will go up.


I love his aggressiveness. Personally I love all aspects of his game, he just needs to regain confidence in his shooting. Personally I wish he would take more mid range jumpers, I think he has that shot. Just to keep the defenders honest until he works out his 3 point stroke. He is making a few turnovers but he's active on defense, throws some great passes, can run the pick and roll well, and is a great slasher.
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Post#1082 » by playteamball » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:54 pm

TheSparkleKing wrote:
Roy Tarpley wrote:Levert's aggressiveness is key. He's just a 2nd year, he'll make lots of mistakes. But he can't let his confidence or aggressiveness get down. His % will go up.


I love his aggressiveness. Personally I love all aspects of his game, he just needs to regain confidence in his shooting. Personally I wish he would take more mid range jumpers, I think he has that shot. Just to keep the defenders honest until he works out his 3 point stroke. He is making a few turnovers but he's active on defense, throws some great passes, can run the pick and roll well, and is a great slasher.


LeVert should take a page from RHJ’s book and ditch the three in favor of midrange jumpers until he is able to comfortably extend his range.
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Post#1083 » by MGrand15 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:18 pm

LeVert is a guard and 100% can hit those 3s in practice. He needs to get over his mental block and keep the defenders honest. He needs to keep firing away from 3.

I'm not worried about him at all. The shots will start falling.
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Post#1084 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:47 pm

he needs to keep shooting the ball. the shots he is missing are ones he hit last season so its 100% in his head right now.
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Post#1085 » by steady » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:06 pm

Some of LeVert's decision making has been off this year, but my guess is that Kenny has told him he has green light to figure things out this year. To try different things, and be more aggressive about getting experience. Possibly similar to RHJ's trajectory last year, where it seemed like he was hurling himself into situations that were not familiar or easy for him. But as Prok has rightly said, all of those experiences, probably helped in evolving the RHJ he is today.

This is probably the last year the Nets will not make the playoffs, and they even have an outside chance of making it this year. So if there was a time for LeVert to try new things, and not be afraid of failing, this is the year .

He is too good to not to go back to making good decisions (like he did last year, and RHJ is doing this year).
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Post#1086 » by Prokorov » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:15 pm

he needs to hit his threes. he should be in the gym 24/7 until he is reliable. if he starts hitting those it makes us so much better
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Post#1087 » by 624 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:42 am

I'm not worried at all about LeVert. His instincts are too good. Sometimes he forces things but so did Rondae last year (in year 2 as well) and look at him now. Plus once he starts hitting his shot he will be absolutely lethal. I know he'll start hitting that eventually, he has way too good of touch.
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Post#1088 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:49 am

624 wrote:I'm not worried at all about LeVert. His instincts are too good. Sometimes he forces things but so did Rondae last year (in year 2 as well) and look at him now. Plus once he starts hitting his shot he will be absolutely lethal. I know he'll start hitting that eventually, he has way too good of touch.


I think this is a great take.

RHJ is in year 3 and he has figured it out.

Levert is in year 2. trying to figure it out.

i think that aspect is forgotten because LeVert is more skilled. :nod:
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Post#1089 » by TinmanZBoy » Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:53 am

I am not worried about LeVert either... he will be a good shooter... it just baffles me that the kid made all good decisions last season suddenly is forcing it, making dumb decisions... hopefully it is just a couple of games thing
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Post#1090 » by Prokorov » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:10 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
624 wrote:I'm not worried at all about LeVert. His instincts are too good. Sometimes he forces things but so did Rondae last year (in year 2 as well) and look at him now. Plus once he starts hitting his shot he will be absolutely lethal. I know he'll start hitting that eventually, he has way too good of touch.


I think this is a great take.

RHJ is in year 3 and he has figured it out.

Levert is in year 2. trying to figure it out.

i think that aspect is forgotten because LeVert is more skilled. :nod:


People need to be in mind that caris is still basically a rookie. he missed most of last season just like RHJ did his rookie year
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Post#1091 » by Prokorov » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:10 am

TinmanZBoy wrote:I am not worried about LeVert either... he will be a good shooter... it just baffles me that the kid made all good decisions last season suddenly is forcing it, making dumb decisions... hopefully it is just a couple of games thing


not unexpected in an expanded role.
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Re: Official Caris LeVert Thread 

Post#1092 » by Curns13 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:38 am

Prokorov wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
624 wrote:I'm not worried at all about LeVert. His instincts are too good. Sometimes he forces things but so did Rondae last year (in year 2 as well) and look at him now. Plus once he starts hitting his shot he will be absolutely lethal. I know he'll start hitting that eventually, he has way too good of touch.


I think this is a great take.

RHJ is in year 3 and he has figured it out.

Levert is in year 2. trying to figure it out.

i think that aspect is forgotten because LeVert is more skilled. :nod:


People need to be in mind that caris is still basically a rookie. he missed most of last season just like RHJ did his rookie year

Also his first healthy offseason in 4 years apparently.
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Post#1093 » by reanimator » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:18 am

With time, I hope Caris can fix his bad origin point.

He basically starts his shot off from the chest like a 2 handed push shot.

Its a bad habit he developed in grade school when he was really skinny/weak and used his chest to power his shots.

It really affects his arch and touch as he often releases it late and it comes out flat.
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Post#1094 » by Aussienet3 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:20 am

Prokorov wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
624 wrote:I'm not worried at all about LeVert. His instincts are too good. Sometimes he forces things but so did Rondae last year (in year 2 as well) and look at him now. Plus once he starts hitting his shot he will be absolutely lethal. I know he'll start hitting that eventually, he has way too good of touch.


I think this is a great take.

RHJ is in year 3 and he has figured it out.

Levert is in year 2. trying to figure it out.

i think that aspect is forgotten because LeVert is more skilled. :nod:


People need to be in mind that caris is still basically a rookie. he missed most of last season just like RHJ did his rookie year


Kenny is letting him play through any perceived rough patches and mistakes. The only query I have about the comparison to RHJ is the age difference. RHJ entered the league after his freshman year. Caris as a senior. Doe's the second year analogy still come into play after factoring this in? Or are we just using pro experience? Still happy to wait for year 3 of Caris' career.
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Post#1095 » by Netaman » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:44 pm

Caris missed so much time in college it's hard to categorize him the way we would normal players. His NBA 2nd year is much more like an underclassman who declared early than a fully polished senior. Also, his 2nd year in the NBA is closer to a rookie year for most pros since he missed half of his rookie year.
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Post#1096 » by Ror1997 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:56 pm

Netaman wrote:Caris missed so much time in college it's hard to categorize him the way we would normal players. His NBA 2nd year is much more like an underclassman who declared early than a fully polished senior. Also, his 2nd year in the NBA is closer to a rookie year for most pros since he missed half of his rookie year.


No offense but none of that makes sense. Dont try and create excuses for him. He's a young player who's struggling right now. There's nothing wrong with that. No need for any of us to over react or panic either. Let him work through his struggles.
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Post#1097 » by NyCeEvO » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:14 pm

Zach Lowe has a pretty good summary of how I view Levert. From his recent Ten things I like and don't like, including Giannis ruling the game article:

5. Caris LeVert, contortionist

LeVert presents one classic young player dilemma: The process looks much better than results. LeVert maps the floor at a sophisticated level. He understands how defenses rotate, where open teammates should be, and how to manipulate all the chess pieces with his dribble. He moves with an arrhythmic, buffering stop-and-start that confounds defenders.

None of that matters much if you shoot 38 percent overall, and 14 percent from deep.

But his method of finding those shots -- and generating them for teammates -- is so intriguing, and so damned smart, that you wager on those shooting percentages catching up as LeVert gains experience.

That's exactly how I felt about him since Marks drafted him and I started looking at his highlights. I don't really care how he does in this season. He's too good not to figure it out. When he does, he'll be great.
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Post#1098 » by Netaman » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:14 pm

Ror1997 wrote:
Netaman wrote:Caris missed so much time in college it's hard to categorize him the way we would normal players. His NBA 2nd year is much more like an underclassman who declared early than a fully polished senior. Also, his 2nd year in the NBA is closer to a rookie year for most pros since he missed half of his rookie year.


No offense but none of that makes sense. Dont try and create excuses for him. He's a young player who's struggling right now. There's nothing wrong with that. No need for any of us to over react or panic either. Let him work through his struggles.


His last 2 years in college combined he played 33 games. He's played 63 games in the NBA. He's missed a lot of game and practice time, that's not an excuse, it's a fact.

I don't think anyone is panicking, he's a young player working through his struggles. Those struggles shouldn't be a surprise considering he was an unfinished product when he was drafted due to how much time he'd missed from injuries.
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Re: Official Caris LeVert Thread 

Post#1099 » by Roy Tarpley » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:46 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:Zach Lowe has a pretty good summary of how I view Levert. From his recent Ten things I like and don't like, including Giannis ruling the game article:

5. Caris LeVert, contortionist

LeVert presents one classic young player dilemma: The process looks much better than results. LeVert maps the floor at a sophisticated level. He understands how defenses rotate, where open teammates should be, and how to manipulate all the chess pieces with his dribble. He moves with an arrhythmic, buffering stop-and-start that confounds defenders.

None of that matters much if you shoot 38 percent overall, and 14 percent from deep.

But his method of finding those shots -- and generating them for teammates -- is so intriguing, and so damned smart, that you wager on those shooting percentages catching up as LeVert gains experience.

That's exactly how I felt about him since Marks drafted him and I started looking at his highlights. I don't really care how he does in this season. He's too good not to figure it out. When he does, he'll be great.


^^^ THIS.

A bit surprised to see Levert's % so low but his numbers will come around.
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Post#1100 » by Claud » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:52 pm

CLV reminds me of last year's RHJ. Out of control, all over the place but still hustling and competing on D.

I think his shooting slump has rocked his confidence which is affecting his overall offensive game.

Another important factor is that when we closed last season strong Brook was a huge threat from 3 which opened up the lanes for our slashers. This year we have very little good shooting from our bigs. Acy is the only one you would consider "decent" at least.

Just like last year with RHJ we need to let Caris play and make mistakes... ultimately this experience will help him grow as a player.

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