Eric Bledsoe

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Peters isn't taking up a spot on the 15 man roster because he's on a 2 way contract. James is too and will need to be put on the 15 man roster or let go in 42 days. Jones is the obvious guy who might be let go to clear a spot for James or the extra guy they acquire in a 2 for 1 bledsoe deal. Does anyone know if they would be allowed to give Jones a 2 way contract after he clears waivers if they did it for james opening up that 2nd 2way slot?

Another contract logistical question - if they did a 2 or 3 for 1 in the bledsoe trade and were taking back a couple of expirings of guys they didnt plan on keeping are they allowed to do the trade and instantly waive those guys or would they need to clear spots on the 15 man roster first and then get rid of those guys?

They are in a bit of a roster crunch with 3 guys in reed, knight, and williams hurt and I would assume they keep all 3. I guess a buy out of knight is possible but it kind of sucks to lose the ability to use his contract in a future trade and its a lot of money to eat. Daniels would be the other guy who could possibly be released if they got a SG back in the bledsoe deal.

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I expect Knight will come back a bit humbled after being taken care of by the organization for a year. Maybe Triano makes the same difference with Brandon that he's made with the rest of the team? In any case, I don't think it makes sense for either to offer a buyout at this point...

[RaisingArizona]

How is McD calling out Bledsoe helping the Suns get equal value in a trade deal?

I agree with what he's saying but that doesn't mean he should say that publicly and make the team and Bledsoe look bad, I like his personnel moves for the most part but his maturity is a little lacking imo.

This is what everyone's saying, but the 'lowball' offers I see getting thrown around in the media are better than what I might have expected. People aren't talking about his bad defense or his injuries; they're talking about how we've mismanaged him.

We'll see! Sunday at 2 AM!

What's Sunday at 2AM?

The time McD took in the 'When Bledsoe Will Be Traded Poll' on the Burns and Gambo show.

[LukasBMW]

So many things not helping his trade value. His poor play, not caring, tweeting he wants out, McD saying he already wants a big extension, people knowing Rich Paul, oversaturation of good point guards, so many people not able to trade yet.

But all that was known in NBA circles (hell, even our realgm circle) before Ryan opened his mouth. The only real surprise was the extension, but I'm sure Rich Paul would make that known to any trade partner prior to agreeing to the trade.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I'm all for moving bledsoe asap but I have to admit there are some interesting developments happening in denver struggling and the cavs sucking at pg plus the nets playing well devaluing that pick that really could benefit the suns waiting and hoping these trends keep up over the next couple weeks.

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[Qwigglez]

We really don't need to move Bledsoe at all, teams will eventually have to buckle down and raise their offer. The Suns aren't going to just give Bledsoe away for scraps. At least McD has that going for him, he is very very patient. All it takes is one team to budge and we'll have a deal.

[Mulhollanddrive]

My preferred trade is Bledsoe, Miami, Miami for Shumpert, Frye, Brooklyn.

Maybe circumstances may encourage Cleveland to do the deal in the next few weeks.

[WeekapaugGroove]

My preferred trade is Bledsoe, Miami, Miami for Shumpert, Frye, Brooklyn.

Maybe circumstances may encourage Cleveland to do the deal in the next few weeks.

I wouldn't give up both miami picks for that Brooklyn pick. Theres a decent chance that pick is late lotto next summer.

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[Mulhollanddrive]

I just think it'd be good to cash in assets to be able to make this the last season of tanking.

If we do the deal we'd have 4 x top 5 picks / 6 x top 10 picks / 8 x lottery picks.

That's enough ammo and we could focus on results from July.

[bigfoot]

It just doesn't make any sense to trade Bledsoe for a young prospect right now or even the 2018 Nets pick which is now fully up in the air as to where it will land.

The best thing we can do is get a couple of future picks (2-3 years out) and let our current crop of young players develop under Coach Jay. We already have five picks next year. There is no room on the team for those five picks plus another young player and another 2018 1st round pick.

James 27 - Ulis 21
Booker 20 - Reed 22 - Knight 25 - Daniels - 26
Warren 24 - JJ 20 - DJJ 20
Chriss 20 - Bender 19 - Dudley 32 - Peters 22
Chandler 35 - Len 24 - Williams 24

Next year we are gonna have to draft and stash European players with our three 2nd round picks and figure out who to dump with our two incoming first round picks.

[jcsunsfan]

It just doesn't make any sense to trade Bledsoe for a young prospect right now or even the 2018 Nets pick which is now fully up in the air as to where it will land.

The best thing we can do is get a couple of future picks (2-3 years out) and let our current crop of young players develop under Coach Jay. We already have five picks next year. There is no room on the team for those five picks plus another young player and another 2018 1st round pick.

James 27 - Ulis 21
Booker 20 - Reed 22 - Knight 25 - Daniels - 26
Warren 24 - JJ 20 - DJJ 20
Chriss 20 - Bender 19 - Dudley 32 - Peters 22
Chandler 35 - Len 24 - Williams 24

Next year we are gonna have to draft and stash European players with our three 2nd round picks and figure out who to dump with our two incoming first round picks.

We could, however, includes some of those five picks in a package that might get us a better pick. This is a good draft and finding a way to get a better position in it is worthwhile. But who knows where teams will finally end up. We thought the Brooklyn pick was gold but now they are playing well. Denver and he Knicks might have great picks this year. Rights to swap picks with potentially bad teams might be our best option. It doesnt impact the Stepien rules and it hedges our bets.

[gaspar]

My preferred trade is Bledsoe, Miami, Miami for Shumpert, Frye, Brooklyn.

Maybe circumstances may encourage Cleveland to do the deal in the next few weeks.

The Nets are playing better basketball than Miami right now. I'm not buying the Heat as a surefire playoff team at all.

[RaisingArizona]

I personally think we are good on picks. We have 5 in the upcoming draft. I'd rather get a young talent back in a trade than a pick.

[carey]

No way I would trade that unprotected Miami pick in any deal.

[bwgood77]

It just doesn't make any sense to trade Bledsoe for a young prospect right now or even the 2018 Nets pick which is now fully up in the air as to where it will land.

The best thing we can do is get a couple of future picks (2-3 years out) and let our current crop of young players develop under Coach Jay. We already have five picks next year. There is no room on the team for those five picks plus another young player and another 2018 1st round pick.

James 27 - Ulis 21
Booker 20 - Reed 22 - Knight 25 - Daniels - 26
Warren 24 - JJ 20 - DJJ 20
Chriss 20 - Bender 19 - Dudley 32 - Peters 22
Chandler 35 - Len 24 - Williams 24

Next year we are gonna have to draft and stash European players with our three 2nd round picks and figure out who to dump with our two incoming first round picks.

I'm not sure why you think all these guys are cornerstones, particularly Knight, DJJ, Dudley, Peters, Len, Chandler, and even to a lesser extent James and Daniels. We also haven't even seen Reed play yet. For all we know he's a bust.

There is zero reason not to try to upgrade talent any chance you get. I can't see many Bulls, Hawks, etc, fans saying "we have a full roster and just don't need any more players. We are all set."

[sunsbg]

5 picks ? Didn't they swap picks with the Grizzlies in the Daniels' deal ?

[RaisingArizona]

5 picks ? Didn't they swap picks with the Grizzlies in the Daniels' deal ?

Daniels was essentially a salary dump, so no.


Here's what we have in addition to our own 1st and 2nd rounders:

2018 first round draft pick from Miami
Miami's 1st round pick to Phoenix protected for selections 1-7 in 2018 and unprotected in 2019 [Miami-New Orleans-Phoenix, 2/19/2015]
2018 second round draft pick from Memphis, Charlotte or Miami (second most favorable)
Memphis will receive the most favorable of its 2018 2nd round pick, Charlotte's 2018 2nd round pick and Miami's 2018 2nd round pick and Phoenix will receive the second most favorable and Houston will receive the least favorable of these three picks (via Memphis) [Charlotte-Memphis-Miami, 2/16/2016; Houston-Memphis, 6/22/2017; Memphis-Phoenix, 9/22/2017]
2018 second round draft pick from Toronto
Toronto's 2018 2nd round pick to Phoenix [Phoenix-Toronto, 2/23/2017]

[Revived]

No way I would trade that unprotected Miami pick in any deal.

If Pat Riley doesn't retire by then, I doubt that pick will turn out any good because he'll make sure Miami is back on top by then.

[carey]

No way I would trade that unprotected Miami pick in any deal.

If Pat Riley doesn't retire by then, I doubt that pick will turn out any good because he'll make sure Miami is back on top by then.

All I'm saying is we should have learned our lesson about trading unprotected picks by now. Miami is currently on the mediocrity treadmill in the East. I listen to The Dan Le Batard show every day and as you've mentioned they have been talking a lot about Riley's exit from the franchise recently. I'm not sure he'll be there in a year let alone in 3.

[denial]

Even though it probably is not the best move for us, I think we should just let Bled sit ALL SEASON and do not trade him until we get EXACTLY what we want.

Why?

It will send a huge message to the entire league. It will be a game-changer for the NBA and players strong-arming their way out of contracts that THEY SIGNED.

Wanna cry your way out of town? Fine, you just will not play basketball at all, anywhere. I guarantee no one tries that sh*t again.

And we wont' be show casing you to other teams. To hell with your value. Enjoy wasting a year of your PRIME sitting at home. Age is cruel to pro athletes. And years on your life do not come back in a trade.

Maybe this is cutting of your nose to spite your face. But if we just trade him right away, it will just open the floodgates of players sending out barber-shop tweets across the nba.

[Banana Milk]

Even though it probably is not the best move for us, I think we should just let Bled sit ALL SEASON and do not trade him until we get EXACTLY what we want.

Why?

It will send a huge message to the entire league. It will be a game-changer for the NBA and players strong-arming their way out of contracts that THEY SIGNED.

Wanna cry your way out of town? Fine, you just will not play basketball at all, anywhere. I guarantee no one tries that sh*t again.

And we wont' be show casing you to other teams. To hell with your value. Enjoy wasting a year of your PRIME sitting at home. Age is cruel to pro athletes. And years on your life do not come back in a trade.

Maybe this is cutting of your nose to spite your face. But if we just trade him right away, it will just open the floodgates of players sending out barber-shop tweets across the nba.

Sounds good in theory, but good luck attracting any free agents after that.