Markelle Fultz Discussion II

[LloydFree]

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Yup. Bodner was one of those "professional" scouts that Colangelo used to help make his pick.

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Help me out here

1.) why do people act like fultz shot mechanic is NOT temporary when its CONFIRMED that its the injury that gas caused it?
2.) why can't Fultz be special if he has shown ability to be a 35-40% shooter from 3s?

Number 1 is because a lot of people can't see beyond what is happening right now. Number 2 is debatable I think because not everyone thought that he could be special even though he was an excellent shooter in college.

"Special" also isn't a word that has a universal definition in this context. I mean, are CJ McCollum or Jrue Holliday special? In my mind they aren't, but Fultz can be like those guys and still be a great third banana on our team.

I would say that, in reality, what is currently going on with his shoulder, and shooting has nothing to do with his long term potential, and that whatever you thought about him as a prospect coming out of college should be what you think of him today.

Lilliard or CJ with defense and better playmaking fair enough or Kyle Lowry with a game that can translate better in playoffs because of multi position ability?

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Yup. Bodner was one of those "professional" scouts that Colangelo used to help make his pick.

Atleast he is open to hear opinions of others, which is a good exercise in making good decisions.

[cksdayoff]

fultz was the best prospect in the draft. once his shoulder is healthy, you guys will see

[Ericb5]

Help me out here

1.) why do people act like fultz shot mechanic is NOT temporary when its CONFIRMED that its the injury that gas caused it?
2.) why can't Fultz be special if he has shown ability to be a 35-40% shooter from 3s?

Number 1 is because a lot of people can't see beyond what is happening right now. Number 2 is debatable I think because not everyone thought that he could be special even though he was an excellent shooter in college.

"Special" also isn't a word that has a universal definition in this context. I mean, are CJ McCollum or Jrue Holliday special? In my mind they aren't, but Fultz can be like those guys and still be a great third banana on our team.

I would say that, in reality, what is currently going on with his shoulder, and shooting has nothing to do with his long term potential, and that whatever you thought about him as a prospect coming out of college should be what you think of him today.

Lilliard or CJ with defense and better playmaking fair enough or Kyle Lowry with a game that can translate better in playoffs because of multi position ability?

I for one didn't think that the Lillard or CJ with defense was a possibility because I didn't have much expectation for him as a defender. So far he has been better than advertised in that regard. However, CJ or Lillard in general I thought were good possibilities.

A Lowry level player makes sense as an upside, but they are different kinds of players.

[Hardcore6erFan]

Wait people actually believe this shooting form is because of a shoulder injury? I hate Kobe but the dude drained 2 fouls shots with a ruptured achilles. But Markelle can't shoot right because his poor shoulder is sore? Give me a freaking break.

[Ericb5]

Wait people actually believe this shooting form is because of a shoulder injury? I hate Kobe but the dude drained 2 fouls shots with a ruptured achilles. But Markelle can't shoot right because his poor shoulder is sore? Give me a freaking break.

I suppose you have a different theory?

Your achilles is in your foot btw.

[JojoSlimbiid]

lol wth

[Hardcore6erFan]

Wait people actually believe this shooting form is because of a shoulder injury? I hate Kobe but the dude drained 2 fouls shots with a ruptured achilles. But Markelle can't shoot right because his poor shoulder is sore? Give me a freaking break.

I suppose you have a different theory?

Your achilles is in your foot btw.

Do you actually think a ruptured achilles would affect foul shooting less than a sore shoulder with no structural damage? This is a mental issue with Fultz and people are in denial because injuries heal, but a mental issue could linger forever.

[Negrodamus]

Wait people actually believe this shooting form is because of a shoulder injury? I hate Kobe but the dude drained 2 fouls shots with a ruptured achilles. But Markelle can't shoot right because his poor shoulder is sore? Give me a freaking break.

I suppose you have a different theory?

Your achilles is in your foot btw.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

[cksdayoff]

Wait people actually believe this shooting form is because of a shoulder injury? I hate Kobe but the dude drained 2 fouls shots with a ruptured achilles. But Markelle can't shoot right because his poor shoulder is sore? Give me a freaking break.

I suppose you have a different theory?

Your achilles is in your foot btw.

holy sh***

[Unbreakable99]

Wait people actually believe this shooting form is because of a shoulder injury? I hate Kobe but the dude drained 2 fouls shots with a ruptured achilles. But Markelle can't shoot right because his poor shoulder is sore? Give me a freaking break.

I suppose you have a different theory?

Your achilles is in your foot btw.

Do you actually think a ruptured achilles would affect foul shooting less than a sore shoulder with no structural damage? This is a mental issue with Fultz and people are in denial because injuries heal, but a mental issue could linger forever.

A ruptrured Achilles is on your ankle. You can still shoot. A real shoulder injury will affect your shot much more. People with broken feet can shoot free throws all day. If you have a broken shoulder you can't shoot.

[Hardcore6erFan]

I suppose you have a different theory?

Your achilles is in your foot btw.

Do you actually think a ruptured achilles would affect foul shooting less than a sore shoulder with no structural damage? This is a mental issue with Fultz and people are in denial because injuries heal, but a mental issue could linger forever.

A ruptrured Achilles is on your ankle. You can still shoot. A real shoulder injury will affect your shot much more. People with broken feet can shoot free throws all day. If you have a broken shoulder you can't shoot.

Part of a free throw motion is using your legs and extending towards the basket, which requires your achilles tendon. If you just ruptured your achilles that will mess up your foul shooting form more than a sore shoulder with no structural damage.

[XtremeDunkz]

Do you actually think a ruptured achilles would affect foul shooting less than a sore shoulder with no structural damage? This is a mental issue with Fultz and people are in denial because injuries heal, but a mental issue could linger forever.

A ruptrured Achilles is on your ankle. You can still shoot. A real shoulder injury will affect your shot much more. People with broken feet can shoot free throws all day. If you have a broken shoulder you can't shoot.

Part of a free throw motion is using your legs and extending towards the basket, which requires your achilles tendon. If you just ruptured your achilles that will mess up your foul shooting form more than a sore shoulder with no structural damage.

You've obviously never played basketball......

It is MUCH, and I mean MUCHHHH easier to shoot a ball normally flat footed than it is to shoot a ball with any type of upper body pain that will restrict your range of motion.

[MambaJuice]

Wait people actually believe this shooting form is because of a shoulder injury? I hate Kobe but the dude drained 2 fouls shots with a ruptured achilles. But Markelle can't shoot right because his poor shoulder is sore? Give me a freaking break.

I suppose you have a different theory?

Your achilles is in your foot btw.

Do you actually think a ruptured achilles would affect foul shooting less than a sore shoulder with no structural damage? This is a mental issue with Fultz and people are in denial because injuries heal, but a mental issue could linger forever.

You're comparing Kobe, a grizzled vet and one of the most competitive players of all time to a 19 year old rookie? Kobe took those free throws on adrenaline. Plus you can shoot a free throw with a broken foot, ruptured Achilles, etc. Hell, you can shoot a free throw if you have no legs at all. Much harder with a bum shoulder.

[James40]

Wait people actually believe this shooting form is because of a shoulder injury? I hate Kobe but the dude drained 2 fouls shots with a ruptured achilles. But Markelle can't shoot right because his poor shoulder is sore? Give me a freaking break.

I suppose you have a different theory?

Your achilles is in your foot btw.

Do you actually think a ruptured achilles would affect foul shooting less than a sore shoulder with no structural damage? This is a mental issue with Fultz and people are in denial because injuries heal, but a mental issue could linger forever.

Did you hear McGrady talking about playing half a year with a torn labrum and it not affecting his FT shot, cause it didn’t affect it so much to put 3 hitches in his shot. He like you was worried about the mental part as well.

[LongLiveHinkie]

If I ever get alzheimers I'm blaming it on this thread.

[KrazySixersD]

I dont live in philly but have been every bit as loyal as someone who does.. but when a team starts lying and hiding things to its fanbase, that is a problem.. obviously Im still here and probably couldnt change even if I wanted too as that isnt in me.. but going down apathy road I can do just fine.. as I said, Im a jags fan and prior to this year Ive lived in apathy for them for a decade

You are not loyal, as evidenced by your flailing and over the top negative reactions.

Loyalty requires giving them the benefit of the doubt, and not freaking out every time the boat rocks.

Caring about the team, and supporting the team are two different aspects of fandom. You only care about the team.




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Lmao thats a bunch of BS.. spoken like a true company man. I support them by being a fan of them and repping them amogst my peers and watching their games and going to watch them play when in my area.. it absolutely does NOT mean I have to blindly believe them when they have proven to be snakes.. you sir, are what is called a blind homer

[Ericb5]

I dont live in philly but have been every bit as loyal as someone who does.. but when a team starts lying and hiding things to its fanbase, that is a problem.. obviously Im still here and probably couldnt change even if I wanted too as that isnt in me.. but going down apathy road I can do just fine.. as I said, Im a jags fan and prior to this year Ive lived in apathy for them for a decade

You are not loyal, as evidenced by your flailing and over the top negative reactions.

Loyalty requires giving them the benefit of the doubt, and not freaking out every time the boat rocks.

Caring about the team, and supporting the team are two different aspects of fandom. You only care about the team.




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Lmao thats a bunch of BS.. spoken like a true company man. I support them by being a fan of them and repping them amogst my peers and watching their games and going to watch them play when in my area.. it absolutely does NOT mean I have to blindly believe them when they have proven to be snakes.. you sir, are what is called a blind homer

Uh, no.

The fact that you think that homerism is a bad thing is why you aren’t a fan. A front runner is way worse than a homer because a homer is someone who supports the home team.


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