Updates on former Wolves

PharmD · Post #101 » by **PharmD** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:15 am

Neeva wrote:People saying Rubio is looking so great and still shooting 36 percent and won't be surprised if it drops lol

Ricky's not looking great at all. He's actually playing pretty **** like he does at the start of every season for whatever reason. But he's playing with tons of heart and grit and panache. Utah's fans have already embraced him so that's good.

shangrila · Post #102 » by **shangrila** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:35 am

PharmD wrote:
Neeva wrote:People saying Rubio is looking so great and still shooting 36 percent and won't be surprised if it drops lol

Ricky's not looking great at all. He's actually playing pretty **** like he does at the start of every season for whatever reason. But he's playing with tons of heart and grit and panache. Utah's fans have already embraced him so that's good.

He's shooting more than he would normally though. 11 FGA a game so far, which is very high compared to his time here. Don't know if it's a team thing or he's trying to continue his end of season stretch from last year but either way it's not working.

southern wolf · Post #103 » by **southern wolf** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:42 am

I think Ricky will always be that way. A bad shooter and finished around the rim who makes up for it in other areas.

Crazy-Canuck · Post #104 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:51 pm

Anthony Bennett.

This explains alot.

The issue with Anthony was, and we had no way of knowing it at the time, the kid had no desire to overcome adversity whatsoever. As soon as it was hard, he was out,” (David) Griffin said. “His whole life, he rolled out of bed bigger, better, and more talented than everybody else. As soon as it was hard, it was over.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/former-cavs-gm-fired-shot-across-bow-anthony-bennett-213004369.html

Post #105 » by **Calinks** » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:37 am

Rubio trying to carry the Jazz to start the game.

Post #106 » by **Klomp** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:00 am

Decent game from Rubio tonight. Jazz need him to be at least that good in order to not be a liability.

PharmD · Post #107 » by **PharmD** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:40 am

Klomp wrote:Decent game from Rubio tonight. Jazz need him to be at least that good in order to not be a liability.

I thought he stunk pretty bad actually, outside of okay-ish shooting (6/13).

Merc_Porto · Post #108 » by **Merc_Porto** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:11 am

PharmD wrote:
I thought he stunk pretty bad actually, outside of okay-ish shooting (6/13).

Yeah, I agree, he was only ok despite the good stat line.

32 minutes
21 pts (6/13 FG) (4/7 from 3)
4 ast
7 reb (3 OREB)
1 stl
5 TOs

That connection between him and Gobert is all over the place right now. Nice too see the deep 3s from him tought.

Post #109 » by **GimmeDat** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:10 pm

Interested to hear your thoughts on the many people that argue against LaVine's effectiveness citing advanced stats that suggest his team is not better with him on the floor.

Post #110 » by **Worm Guts** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:30 pm

GimmeDat wrote:Interested to hear your thoughts on the many people that argue against LaVine's effectiveness citing advanced stats that suggest his team is not better with him on the floor.

He mainly needs to figure out how to not be terrible at defense. If he becomes even an average defender, he’ll be a net positive player.

PharmD · Post #111 » by **PharmD** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:47 pm

GimmeDat wrote:Interested to hear your thoughts on the many people that argue against LaVine's effectiveness citing advanced stats that suggest his team is not better with him on the floor.

He was god-awful as a raaaaaw rookie and was forced to play point guard for a year and a half. He got hurt early last year and thus played 24 of his 47 games in the Point Wiggins era when the wolves played generally worse for strategic reasons (the rest of the team played 24/82 games with point Wiggins, 29%, Zach was over half).

LibertyPrime · Post #112 » by **LibertyPrime** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:41 pm

It's becoming very evident that the defensive dysfunction we suffered last year didn't depart with Zach.

walk with me · Post #113 » by **walk with me** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:40 pm

GimmeDat wrote:Interested to hear your thoughts on the many people that argue against LaVine's effectiveness citing advanced stats that suggest his team is not better with him on the floor.

People say the spurs are more effective with Kawhi off of the floor also lol.

LesGrossman · Post #114 » by **LesGrossman** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:44 pm

LibertyPrime wrote:It's becoming very evident that the defensive dysfunction we suffered last year didn't depart with Zach.

Thats what i kept saying. You cant make up for lack of defensive interest in your two main guys who play way over 30 min by signing someone else while keeping the weak guys. Its kinda like when you need to pee, you cant delegate that, you need to do it yourself.

Takingbaconback · Post #115 » by **Takingbaconback** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:43 pm

GimmeDat wrote:Interested to hear your thoughts on the many people that argue against LaVine's effectiveness citing advanced stats that suggest his team is not better with him on the floor.

He has tantalizing talent. The dude has one of the best natural shooting strokes in the league, he can elevate over anyone, and once the game slows down for him completely, he should be able to get any look that he wants. Even on defense he's got the tools. He has one of the best lateral quickness in the league, he is effective at getting into passing lanes and contesting with his length and athleticism at times. He's got to get stronger and understand what he and the team are trying to do on defense, but I have always thought everything was always there and he's just gotta put it together (kinda like Wiggins).

Post #116 » by **Klomp** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:11 pm

LibertyPrime wrote:It's becoming very evident that the defensive dysfunction we suffered last year didn't depart with Zach.

So this team with Zach LaVine in Jimmy Butler's spot would be just the same defensively?

Merc_Porto · Post #117 » by **Merc_Porto** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:17 am

Another fantastic perfomance by Ricky, especially on defense...

33 Minutes
20 Pts (8-15 FG) (4-8 from 3)
6 Ast
2 Reb
4 Stl
3 TO's

PortugalTheMan · Post #118 » by **PortugalTheMan** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:23 am

We love him.

The guy is so polarizing, and it helps that he looks like Wolverine throwing out assists, getting steals and knocking jumpers.

Ikerd · Post #119 » by **Ikerd** » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:38 pm

Derrick Williams is still unemployed.

LibertyPrime · Post #120 » by **LibertyPrime** » Wed Nov 1, 2017 1:47 am

Klomp wrote:
LibertyPrime wrote:It's becoming very evident that the defensive dysfunction we suffered last year didn't depart with Zach.

So this team with Zach LaVine in Jimmy Butler's spot would be just the same defensively?

No, that's certainly not what I'm saying. That was more of a knock on KAT than Jimmy.