Small Forward Position - ideas going forward?
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As for the the question at hand, I think that we should give GRIII the chance to prove what he can do.
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Nuntius wrote:As for the the question at hand, I think that we should give GRIII the chance to prove what he can do.
I was so excited for GRIII coming into this year. I thought he would "break out" in the sense he would show he is a quality starter or great sixth man.
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xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:Nuntius wrote:As for the the question at hand, I think that we should give GRIII the chance to prove what he can do.
I was so excited for GRIII coming into this year. I thought he would "break out" in the sense he would show he is a quality starter or great sixth man.
Yeah, that injury came at the wrong time. I'm still excited for his future here, though. I just hope he gets well quickly

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verysalt wrote:Darknemo2000 wrote:Wizop wrote:
certainly possible and maybe he even deserves to go 1st, but I don't think a European player has ever gone that high. he should go very high though and since I don't expect to be picking in the top 4 or 5 I agree he's likely to be gone. Bridges is much more likely to still be on the board and other names will emerge as the college season goes on.
Europe havent had such young dominating player probably since Arvydas Sabonis time. I think he will go as number 1 or at worst number 2.
Euro had few of those amazing players who couldn't translate to NBA. deColo, Jasikevicius and most of others PG/SG couldn't prove anything. I wouldn't bet too much on Doncic success either simply because SG traditionally is very unlucky for euros in NBA. Even Goran Dragic, as good as he is, he isn't that much respected in NBA.
Drazen Petrovic was an unbelievable exception, known as the "Mozart of the Parquet."
I'm perfectly fine with GR3 or as others have said maybe add a 3&d at some point. I'm not certain we need to add a major piece at this point but rather more complimentary pieces to accent the young core.
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Miller4ever wrote:He's shown the ability to defend, and his offense is solid, whereas Solo's offense was truly atrocious.
GRIII played small forward almost exclusively in the last three seasons. Twitter profiles don't mean as much as minutes played at a position.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did he not start his 27 games last season with George as his wing mate? Point being, regardless of where he's played most his minutes, I don't know if I'm comfortable with him being matched up with the opposing team's starting SF on a full-time basis (namely LeBron, Durant, Kawhi, and Giannis).
GR3's offense is a little bit better than Solo's, but your glue guy spot in the lineup needs to be more than just an average defender. The reason his twitter profile is significant is because it tells you that SG is his preferred position and the one he's more comfortable with.
Again, I love GR3 for he comes from the same part on Indiana as I do - But, if he's going to command anywhere in the neighborhood of $10 million a year, I'd let him walk in an instant.
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I will say that while he's not the long-term answer, Bojan has done an admirable job at the position to open the season.
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HurricaneDij25 wrote:I will say that while he's not the long-term answer, Bojan has done an admirable job at the position to open the season.
He's basically the opposite of Solomon Hill. Good offense, atrocious defense. But at least that fits this version of the Pacers.
His gun-shyness has concerned me but I enjoyed watching him school the other Bogdanovic.
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In no specific order, these are the players I think the Pacers should target for the 3 next season:
- Jermai Grant
- Josh Huestis
- Robert Covington
- Will Barton
- James Ennis
The theme here is (mostly) athletic 3+D types and likely to be available, particularly to a team like Indy. Only Barton and Covington are likely to command anything near max deals.
- Jermai Grant
- Josh Huestis
- Robert Covington
- Will Barton
- James Ennis
The theme here is (mostly) athletic 3+D types and likely to be available, particularly to a team like Indy. Only Barton and Covington are likely to command anything near max deals.
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When Bojan tries to play in the post it just makes the whole offense seem awkward. He pushes whoever the center is at the time out of the paint and kills any sort of offensive flow we have. He just doesn't have the moves down there to make it work.
I'd rather him stay on the perimeter.
I'm not much of a fan of his, but in stepping in for GRIII, he's done the best job anyone could have expected, I suppose.
I'd rather him stay on the perimeter.
I'm not much of a fan of his, but in stepping in for GRIII, he's done the best job anyone could have expected, I suppose.
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Since the first couple games Bogdonovih hasn't been that bad. When Turner gets back I think they have to look at using him, Turner and Sabonis on the floor together. Got to do that to get your five best guys on the floor.
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hope Young plays some three with Sabonis and Leaf or Turner.
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Seeing Orlando isn't exercising their option on Herzonja. Anyone think he is worth a 2nd. Ex Magic guys have worked out well for us so far this year.
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8305 wrote:Seeing Orlando isn't exercising their option on Herzonja. Anyone think he is worth a 2nd. Ex Magic guys have worked out well for us so far this year.
If we trade for him, the restriction on Orlando would pass to us, meaning we won't be able to pay him more than his option value (roughly $5m+) while every other team can pay him any amount they like. It's exactly the same situation we were in with Solo.
It would be smarter to wait until he's a FA, either next season or if he gets bought out of his current contract.
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winter_mute_13 wrote:8305 wrote:Seeing Orlando isn't exercising their option on Herzonja. Anyone think he is worth a 2nd. Ex Magic guys have worked out well for us so far this year.
If we trade for him, the restriction on Orlando would pass to us, meaning we won't be able to pay him more than his option value (roughly $5m+) while every other team can pay him any amount they like. It's exactly the same situation we were in with Solo.
It would be smarter to wait until he's a FA, either next season or if he gets bought out of his current contract.
Didn't realize that. With that in mind there will be no market for the guy. This rule really puts that player in a tough situation. His team has no incentive to play him. In fact there is a disincentive. There is no market for him either. Solo was lucky the Pacers were desperate when he was in that spot,
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Well there will be 6'10 SF in a draft , athletic , hitting 3s etc, Kulboka is his Surname , this guy can be good, but he needs atleast couple more years to put some mass on and add some new tricks up to his arsenal, it reminds my Gianis actually , as some of you dont know nobody expected Gianis to be this good on a draft day he had same problems as Kulboka, he did sit out 2-3 seasons or so, I dont expect him to be next Gianis but he would be solid player if we put some effort in him ,
So if GR3 will be starter and we develop this guy for couple of seasons it would be good SF in future.
Projected Draft Range: Late 1st to 2nd Round
Pros:
Very good shooter, especially from deep
Decent scorer off the dribble
Can post up smaller players
Excels at scoring on the move
Very good free throw shooter
Adequate playmaker
Moves well off the ball on offense
Decent defensive player
Good athlete
Smart player that has a good feel for the game
Rock solid motor
Cons:
May struggle to finish plays in traffic
Lacks an elite first step off the dribble
May need to tweak his shooting mechanics
Unselfish to a fault
Needs to improve his rebounding
May struggle to guard quicker players
Does not collect enough steals or blocks
Not overly explosive
Must get stronger
Does not have much experience at the highest levels overseas
Summary:
Arnoldas Kulboka is a productive, 6-9 swingman that possesses solid offensive skills. He is a very good shooter that can score in a variety of ways, and he also can score in the post as well as out in transition. Plus, he also is a good playmaker that can be a point forward on the court.
However, he will need to add strength, as this may hurt his ability to rebound or defend in games. He can be outmuscled by stronger opponents, and sometimes he can tend to be out of position to allow scores to the opposition.
Right now, Kulboka is an intriguing prospect, as he is an athletic, skilled swingman that has been quite productive in a second division league in Germany. The 6-9 Lithuanian-born player has a wide array of skills that could prove to be useful in the league, and he could end up being a first round pick in 2018.
U16- European Championship
31 points + passing skill vs grown man
Another prospect is Sedekerskis acording to scouts we could get him in second round
+ he has NBA ready body, so would be really good of the bench
Tadas Sedekerskis
Height: 6-7
Weight: 200
Professional Team: Laboral Kutxa Baskonia
Country: Lithuania
Classification: International '98
Birthdate: 1/17/1998
Projected Draft Range: 2nd Round
Pros:
Very good shooter from all over the floor
Excels at scoring on the move
Good playmaker
Good rebounder
Decent defensive player
Solid athlete
Good size to play out on the wing
Has played in some of the toughest professional leagues
Cons:
Does not look to create his own shot often
Does not shoot the ball enough
Can be a streaky shooter
Does not collect enough steals or blocks
Must add strength
Has not played much in the top professional leagues
Summary:
Tadas Sedekerskis is a tall, skilled swingman that can score in a variety of ways. He is a crafty scorer off the dribble, can post up smaller guards on the block, and he also can knock down jumpers.
Plus, he handles the ball well, as he plays like a point forward, and he also will get it after on the glass. However, he will need to improve his position defense, as he can tend to be out of position to allow scores.
Right now, Sedekerskis looks to be an interesting prospect for the 2018 NBA Draft. He is already playing in some of the best leagues from around the world, and he may have the athleticism and offensive skills to be a first round pick down the road.
Strenghts
Or we can get Kuzminskas from Knicks , hes trade value is about one 2nd round pick , because Knicks dont play him, his contract is like 2mln or so , last season he was playing good , in FIBA Eurobasket he was Lithuanian leading scorer,
for those who dont know him here are some videos:
Last season highlights
Fiba Eurobasket highlights
probably too much Lithuanian flavour
So if GR3 will be starter and we develop this guy for couple of seasons it would be good SF in future.
Projected Draft Range: Late 1st to 2nd Round
Pros:
Very good shooter, especially from deep
Decent scorer off the dribble
Can post up smaller players
Excels at scoring on the move
Very good free throw shooter
Adequate playmaker
Moves well off the ball on offense
Decent defensive player
Good athlete
Smart player that has a good feel for the game
Rock solid motor
Cons:
May struggle to finish plays in traffic
Lacks an elite first step off the dribble
May need to tweak his shooting mechanics
Unselfish to a fault
Needs to improve his rebounding
May struggle to guard quicker players
Does not collect enough steals or blocks
Not overly explosive
Must get stronger
Does not have much experience at the highest levels overseas
Summary:
Arnoldas Kulboka is a productive, 6-9 swingman that possesses solid offensive skills. He is a very good shooter that can score in a variety of ways, and he also can score in the post as well as out in transition. Plus, he also is a good playmaker that can be a point forward on the court.
However, he will need to add strength, as this may hurt his ability to rebound or defend in games. He can be outmuscled by stronger opponents, and sometimes he can tend to be out of position to allow scores to the opposition.
Right now, Kulboka is an intriguing prospect, as he is an athletic, skilled swingman that has been quite productive in a second division league in Germany. The 6-9 Lithuanian-born player has a wide array of skills that could prove to be useful in the league, and he could end up being a first round pick in 2018.
U16- European Championship
31 points + passing skill vs grown man
Another prospect is Sedekerskis acording to scouts we could get him in second round

Tadas Sedekerskis
Height: 6-7
Weight: 200
Professional Team: Laboral Kutxa Baskonia
Country: Lithuania
Classification: International '98
Birthdate: 1/17/1998
Projected Draft Range: 2nd Round
Pros:
Very good shooter from all over the floor
Excels at scoring on the move
Good playmaker
Good rebounder
Decent defensive player
Solid athlete
Good size to play out on the wing
Has played in some of the toughest professional leagues
Cons:
Does not look to create his own shot often
Does not shoot the ball enough
Can be a streaky shooter
Does not collect enough steals or blocks
Must add strength
Has not played much in the top professional leagues
Summary:
Tadas Sedekerskis is a tall, skilled swingman that can score in a variety of ways. He is a crafty scorer off the dribble, can post up smaller guards on the block, and he also can knock down jumpers.
Plus, he handles the ball well, as he plays like a point forward, and he also will get it after on the glass. However, he will need to improve his position defense, as he can tend to be out of position to allow scores.
Right now, Sedekerskis looks to be an interesting prospect for the 2018 NBA Draft. He is already playing in some of the best leagues from around the world, and he may have the athleticism and offensive skills to be a first round pick down the road.
Strenghts
Or we can get Kuzminskas from Knicks , hes trade value is about one 2nd round pick , because Knicks dont play him, his contract is like 2mln or so , last season he was playing good , in FIBA Eurobasket he was Lithuanian leading scorer,
for those who dont know him here are some videos:
Last season highlights
Fiba Eurobasket highlights
probably too much Lithuanian flavour


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Bojan is much better player then Kuzminskas... Kuzminskas plays more on PF... we dont need him...
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Vorda wrote:Bojan is much better player then Kuzminskas... Kuzminskas plays more on PF... we dont need him...
We have a good number of shooters already but lack of defenders and Kuz is not a defensive player. If we can get someone like PJ Tucker that would be great.
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IMF wrote:I kinda think there might be some under the radar guys like Robert Covington or Jerami Grant in OKC that could be had for value. I'm less looking for a star type than a guy who can be a Swiss Army knife multiple position defender as well as a floor spacer. Someone to be a better version of what Solomon Hill was supposed to be.
I don't think we're adding any star talent through free agency so this sort of player is who id target. I'd look to add big time talent through the draft.
Grant has been a pleasant surprise this season. He still gets lots defensively but has improved dramatically on the offensive end. He’ll be an unrestricted free agent after this year.
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