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Re: RE: Re: Carrick Felix signed 

Post#21 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Oct 9, 2017 10:34 am

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Oahu, working on his film career. He'll get a basketball jones soon enough

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Re: Carrick Felix signed 

Post#22 » by Ruzious » Mon Oct 9, 2017 12:45 pm

dangermouse wrote:Any word on what the contract is, one of those two-ways to develop in... whatever the D-league is called now?

I didn't realise he was only 6'6", he's got length then. Athletic and talented player in my opinion. I like him.

Yeah, I was impressed with him yesterday. He's somewhat of a physical specimen out there - listed at 205, I think he's more like 220. He's not much of a shooter, but he plays hard on defense and uses his length and athleticism. His stats weren't great in the G League, but I think he's making a good case for belonging in the NBA as an "energy player" off the bench. We'll see.
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Re: Carrick Felix signed 

Post#23 » by payitforward » Mon Oct 9, 2017 7:35 pm

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dangermouse wrote:Any word on what the contract is, one of those two-ways to develop in... whatever the D-league is called now?

I didn't realise he was only 6'6", he's got length then. Athletic and talented player in my opinion. I like him.

Yeah, I was impressed with him yesterday. He's somewhat of a physical specimen out there - listed at 205, I think he's more like 220. He's not much of a shooter, but he plays hard on defense and uses his length and athleticism. His stats weren't great in the G League, but I think he's making a good case for belonging in the NBA as an "energy player" off the bench. We'll see.

Seems to me that, as an "energy player," what you do with your "energy" is put up "stats." If your numbers have no positive impact on a team's overall numbers in a game, you can have virtually no positive impact on the game. Not saying that nothing you do can ever turn out to be helpful in one or another situation, but... truth is that numbers win games, & players put up the numbers.

Felix was drafted #33 in 2013 on the strength of his outstanding Senior year at ASU. He went right after Allan Crabbe & Alex Abrines, both of whom are solidly established in the league, & before a bunch of guys who have turned out to have actual NBA careers, among whom Isaiah Canaan, Jeff Withey, James Ennis & Joffrey Lauvergne.

The best sample I can find for him was last year in the G League, where he wasn't good. Every 40 minutes, he took 14 shots & 4.8 FTAs to put up 16.1 points -- just about a .50 TS% in the minor leagues. He rebounded well for a guard, but in everything else he was punk.

If he winds up on our roster, as it seems quite possible he will, it would be one more indication of Ernie's failure to find & develop young players. Felix doesn't add anything, has no further growth in him at 27 (of course never say never yadda yadda, but come on...), & will never become a trade asset with any value.

We have an inordinate number of players of that kind -- guys who will never give us back what it has cost us to acquire & pay them: in one way or another, at this point I'd put Morris, Smith, Satoransky, Mahinmi, Frazier, Ochefu, McCullough & Scott on that list -- 8 of the 13 guaranteed contracts. If we sign Sloan & Felix to get to 15, that makes it 10 out of 15.

Note that I don't mean to be referring to how well or badly these guys play -- that's a separate question. What I mean is that they won't bring us more later than they have cost us up to now. That would not be true, for example, of Sheldon Mac if he developed into a solid rotation NBA player. In that case, a guy who didn't even cost us a draft pick, & whom we paid the minimum, would have become valuable enough that he would bring back more in a trade than we'd spent to acquire & develop him.
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Re: Carrick Felix signed 

Post#24 » by payitforward » Mon Oct 9, 2017 7:43 pm

Of course, that's not to gainsay what Ruz wrote --
Ruzious wrote:Yeah, I was impressed with him yesterday.... We'll see.

Felix had an extremely good outing vs. the Cavs B team. Ditto vs. the Chinese team.

So far he's 11-16 shooting the ball including 3-6 from 3-point range. As long as he continues to do what, at 27, he's never done before, why he'll be fine.
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Re: RE: Re: Carrick Felix signed 

Post#25 » by JWizmentality » Mon Oct 9, 2017 7:48 pm

payitforward wrote:Of course, that's not to gainsay what Ruz wrote --
Ruzious wrote:Yeah, I was impressed with him yesterday.... We'll see.

Felix had an extremely good outing vs. the Cavs B team. Ditto vs. the Chinese team.

So far he's 11-16 shooting the ball including 3-6 from 3-point range. As long as he continues to do what, at 27, he's never done before, why he'll be fine.

Good god man. Did someone run over your puppy in the street? Sure, chances are he won't move the needle one iota for this team, but no need to pop a squat on everyone's parade.

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Post#26 » by Ruzious » Mon Oct 9, 2017 11:20 pm

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payitforward wrote:Of course, that's not to gainsay what Ruz wrote --
Ruzious wrote:Yeah, I was impressed with him yesterday.... We'll see.

Felix had an extremely good outing vs. the Cavs B team. Ditto vs. the Chinese team.

So far he's 11-16 shooting the ball including 3-6 from 3-point range. As long as he continues to do what, at 27, he's never done before, why he'll be fine.

Good god man. Did someone run over your puppy in the street? Sure, chances are he won't move the needle one iota for this team, but no need to pop a squat on everyone's parade.

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I know, right? I said he's got a chance to be a backup energy guy, because it appears that he's worked his arse off to improve. Is it so hard to believe people can possibly do that? Geebus Pif, it's not like I said he's got a good chance to be an all-star or or a starter or a rotation player - just an energy guy off the bench. Garrett Temple says hi. Actually, he doesn't because of you. Look at Temple's college stats - but wear protective goggles - so bad they'll make you go blind.
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Post#27 » by Sluggerface » Mon Oct 9, 2017 11:46 pm

Honestly whether or not he's knocking down shots isn't that impressive to me (not that it doesn't hurt). It's been his defense. The athleticism is there and he has solid positioning. If it's between Felix and Jason Smith eating up some of these frontcourt minutes while Keef is out, i'm more inclined to want to see Felix get the college try for a run of games.
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Post#28 » by payitforward » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:11 am

JWizmentality wrote:
payitforward wrote:Of course, that's not to gainsay what Ruz wrote --
Ruzious wrote:Yeah, I was impressed with him yesterday.... We'll see.

Felix had an extremely good outing vs. the Cavs B team. Ditto vs. the Chinese team.

So far he's 11-16 shooting the ball including 3-6 from 3-point range. As long as he continues to do what, at 27, he's never done before, why he'll be fine.

Good god man. Did someone run over your puppy in the street? Sure, chances are he won't move the needle one iota for this team, but no need to pop a squat on everyone's parade.

Whoa there, cowboy? What did I do? Other than point out that CF is shooting lights out?

I can't believe you go after me in the sweet sadness of the final Ochefu moment. But, no, Daniel Ochefu was not my puppy!
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Post#29 » by payitforward » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:34 am

Ruzious wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:
payitforward wrote:Of course, that's not to gainsay what Ruz wrote --

Felix had an extremely good outing vs. the Cavs B team. Ditto vs. the Chinese team.

So far he's 11-16 shooting the ball including 3-6 from 3-point range. As long as he continues to do what, at 27, he's never done before, why he'll be fine.

Good god man. Did someone run over your puppy in the street? Sure, chances are he won't move the needle one iota for this team, but no need to pop a squat on everyone's parade.

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I know, right? I said he's got a chance to be a backup energy guy, because it appears that he's worked his arse off to improve. Is it so hard to believe people can possibly do that? Geebus Pif, it's not like I said he's got a good chance to be an all-star or or a starter or a rotation player - just an energy guy off the bench. Garrett Temple says hi. Actually, he doesn't because of you. Look at Temple's college stats - but wear protective goggles - so bad they'll make you go blind.

Ok ok ok! You are right: I shouldn't blame Carrick Felix for the fact that we might wind up having to keep him! Then again... I didn't.

& in fact, I'm glad to see him, or anyone, get a chance. So, like I say, Felix keeps shooting like this, keeps doing what he's never done before, I'm his biggest fan. Then again...
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This time last year I was hearing it from most of you (you know who you are) b/c of the debbie-downer things I was saying about Andrew Nicholson & Trey Burke.

Oh, & b/c I didn't agree w/ all the posters (you know who you are) trumpeting Sato as the likely RoY.

Then, later in the season I was hearing it b/c I said that the Bogdanovic trade was a ridiculous negative. Some of you (you know who you are) had it pegged as one of the greatest trades Ernie ever made -- "why do we need draft choices?" (you know who you are). Bogdanovic was a tremendous player, he'd been an Olympic MVP, what an upgrade to the team!! (you know who you are -- you really do)

Or should I go back to how many of you were sure Glen Rice was going to be a terrific player, having won MVP of the SL (you know who you are)?

Should I add a few more such cases? Like when I applauded Ernie for picking Porter, while you (you know who you are) gnashed your teeth, b/c we passed up Nerlens Noel?

Or go back to Kevin Seraphin, for example? Or, in the other direction, go back to the fact that I complained vociferously b/c we let Trevor Booker go for nothing? Which one of those 2 is in the league right now? & a d#mned good player at that. Like I say... you know who you are.

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Post#30 » by payitforward » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:38 am

Oh my goodness, how could I leave out
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Post#31 » by Ruzious » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:16 am

Btw Pif, pretty sure you were originally pro Ochefu - I recall disagreeing with you on him when he was "your puppy".

Okay, in the spirit of someone else editing their post, I'll do the same.
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Post#32 » by NatP4 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:56 am

Felix reminds me of Mbah a Moute in every way. I think we should sign him to become our Moe Harkless type, fingers crossed. could use some depth on the wing and another small ball 4 option.
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Post#33 » by closg00 » Thu Nov 2, 2017 5:21 pm

Waived, opening a roster spot
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Post#34 » by Ruzious » Thu Nov 2, 2017 6:01 pm

closg00 wrote:Waived, opening a roster spot

Getting himself suspended couldn't have helped. So who're we getting?
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Post#35 » by NatP4 » Thu Nov 2, 2017 6:03 pm

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Post#36 » by NatP4 » Thu Nov 2, 2017 6:04 pm

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Post#37 » by queridiculo » Thu Nov 2, 2017 9:01 pm

Roster flexibility... does Brooks not think people are somewhat familiar with roster mechanics? Wouldn't have been a thing to waive Felix at any point if another opportunity presented itself.
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Post#38 » by Ruzious » Thu Nov 2, 2017 9:14 pm

queridiculo wrote:Roster flexibility... does Brooks not think people are somewhat familiar with roster mechanics? Wouldn't have been a thing to waive Felix at any point if another opportunity presented itself.

I'm actually intrigued. It could mean they expect a trade, and they want to be able to pull the trigger at any moment.
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Post#39 » by 80sballboy » Fri Nov 3, 2017 3:39 am

I'm guessing when you are the last player on a 15-man roster, not including the two G-League guys, you may want to avoid leaving the bench in a fight. Getting suspended probably ended his short stint with the Wiz. This is a good thing I think to pick up somebody who can actually play and is just not a nice story like Felix was. But it's EG trying to follow Ted's plan so I'm not expecting much.
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Post#40 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Fri Nov 3, 2017 3:57 am

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