Game 10: Atlanta Hawks (1-8) @ Cleveland Cavaliers (4-5) - 3:00 PM ET

Post #2 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 8:11 pm

Getting JR, Korver, & Love back to shooting their career averages from 3 point range would be great.

Post #3 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 8:25 pm

Having K. Love at center for extended minutes during the regular season just doesn't work. He gives up too much height & LBJ takes too many plays off on that end of the court.

afarmenian · Post #4 » by **afarmenian** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 8:28 pm

This is embarrassing please Lue please do something I mean my God

afarmenian · Post #5 » by **afarmenian** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 8:28 pm

Lazy lazy team. Lue please do SOMETHING

Post #6 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 8:38 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #7 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 8:43 pm

How do you give up 37 point to the friggin Hawks in the 1st quarter?

pepe1991 · Post #8 » by **pepe1991** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 8:47 pm

God forbid ever trying Žižić. Team is getting killed around rim but who needs 6'11 center when you can put Kevin Love who is as much of rim protector as I. Thomas.

Post #9 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 8:48 pm

Two of our best players are D. Rose starting & D. Wade off the bench. They both make the league minimum.

afarmenian · Post #10 » by **afarmenian** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 8:50 pm

pepe1991 wrote:God forbid ever trying Žižić. Team is getting killed around rim but who needs 6'11 center when you can put Kevin Love who is as much of rim protector as I. Thomas.

I dont get it either. Must be terrible in practice for them not to be giving him some kind of run.

Cedi defense looks good so far

Post #11 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 8:50 pm

pepe1991 wrote:God forbid ever trying Žižić. Team is getting killed around rim but who needs 6'11 center when you can put Kevin Love who is as much of rim protector as I. Thomas.

I'm not totally opposed to giving Zizic minutes but his PNR defense is pretty bad as a rookie.

Post #12 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 8:52 pm

It's pretty damning that our defense is better with LBJ off the court.

pepe1991 · Post #13 » by **pepe1991** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 8:55 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:God forbid ever trying Žižić. Team is getting killed around rim but who needs 6'11 center when you can put Kevin Love who is as much of rim protector as I. Thomas.

I'm not totally opposed to giving Zizic minutes but his PNR defense is pretty bad as a rookie.

Nothing can top defensive effort of Rose and Love in pick&roll.
In general i think it has more to do with fact that Lebron never wanted to play with any rookie during his whole career. I can't recall last 7 years single rookie that was getting any PT on team with LBJ .

Post #14 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 9:03 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:God forbid ever trying Žižić. Team is getting killed around rim but who needs 6'11 center when you can put Kevin Love who is as much of rim protector as I. Thomas.

I'm not totally opposed to giving Zizic minutes but his PNR defense is pretty bad as a rookie.

Nothing can top defensive effort of Rose and Love in pick&roll.
In general i think it has more to do with fact that Lebron never wanted to play with any rookie during his whole career. I can't recall last 7 years single rookie that was getting any PT on team with LBJ .

The problem is Love at center with LBJ at PF IMO. The defense is designed to ICE the ball handler which makes the roll man someone else's responsibility. LBJ's regular season help defense is, um, uninspiring.

afarmenian · Post #15 » by **afarmenian** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 9:06 pm

Starters in lead up. This starting unit is NOT WORKING LUE WAKE UP

afarmenian · Post #16 » by **afarmenian** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 9:21 pm

rebounding is as much to blame as the defense

Post #17 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 9:30 pm

I've never seen an all star get victimized by as many questionable calls as K. Love.

pepe1991 · Post #18 » by **pepe1991** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 9:35 pm

I'm no Cavs fan , in general i follow nba for last 14 years, but to me this team kind a reminds me of 2013 Lakers dumpsterfire. Lot of old ,washed up guys who have name value and no on court value any more, along with too many injuries. It looks like Lebron will need to have Kobe type season on offense ( 30 ppg ) to drag them to playoffs.

Post #19 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 9:38 pm

pepe1991 wrote:I'm no Cavs fan , in general i follow nba for last 14 years, but to me this team kind a reminds me of 2013 Lakers dumpsterfire. Lot of old ,washed up guys who have name value and no on court value any more, along with too many injuries. It looks like Lebron will need to have Kobe type season on offense ( 30 ppg ) to drag them to playoffs.

They've out-talented bad teams for 3 years. They developed some bad habits as a result. Until IT gets healthy, they have to execute every game or they'll lose.

dark shark · Post #20 » by **dark shark** » Sun Nov 5, 2017 9:55 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:I'm no Cavs fan , in general i follow nba for last 14 years, but to me this team kind a reminds me of 2013 Lakers dumpsterfire. Lot of old ,washed up guys who have name value and no on court value any more, along with too many injuries. It looks like Lebron will need to have Kobe type season on offense ( 30 ppg ) to drag them to playoffs.

They've out-talented bad teams for 3 years. They developed some bad habits as a result. Until IT gets healthy, they have to execute every game or they'll lose.

I'm watching the game rn. Cavs look bad. Defense is real bad. Looks like the offense misses irving.