2018 NBA Draft

[GimmeDat]

Here is Evan Daniels big board to start the season
https://duke.247sports.com/Article/Big-Board-Top-20-prospects-for-the-2018-NBA-Draft-109796264

For those that dont want to click it, its the usual talking points (not close to as deep as last year but a better chance to have elite talent at the top). He also has the usual suspects for 1-5.

1) Bagley
2) Ayton
3) Bamba
4) Doncic
5) Porter
6) Jackson
7) Williams
8) Bridges
9) Wendell
10) Sexton

"For a power forward, Bagley, who stands 6-foot-11 and has an 8-9 standing reach, is the full package"

Isn't a 8'9 standing reach pretty bad for a PF? That number can't be true right, as he has a 7'0 ½ wingspan according to draftexpress. Shouldn't it be over 9'0 if he is 6'11 and has a wingspan around 7'1?

Marvin Bagley is 6'9.5" without shoes with short arms (7'0.5" wingspan). That is not very good for an NBA PF. He is on the same level as Josh Jackson. Ayton is the only potential super stud in this draft if he can get his motor on all the time.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Marvin-Bagley-85466/

You know you took that measurement from 2014 right.. you know, when he would've been around 15? He's not particularly long for his height but seems pretty close to 7 foot at this point and is an elite athletic specimen. I think that's more than enough for a C in this league let alone PF.

[thr3ep01nte4]

"For a power forward, Bagley, who stands 6-foot-11 and has an 8-9 standing reach, is the full package"

Isn't a 8'9 standing reach pretty bad for a PF? That number can't be true right, as he has a 7'0 ½ wingspan according to draftexpress. Shouldn't it be over 9'0 if he is 6'11 and has a wingspan around 7'1?

Marvin Bagley is 6'9.5" without shoes with short arms (7'0.5" wingspan). That is not very good for an NBA PF. He is on the same level as Josh Jackson. Ayton is the only potential super stud in this draft if he can get his motor on all the time.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Marvin-Bagley-85466/

You know you took that measurement from 2014 right.. you know, when he would've been around 15? He's not particularly long for his height but seems pretty close to 7 foot at this point and is an elite athletic specimen. I think that's more than enough for a C in this league let alone PF.

The 7'0.5" wingspan was measured in 2016. Note that his height with shoe (6'10.5") remains the same from 2014 to 2016. That means he didn't grow (in 2 years) much after that point. He is no where near 7 feet now.

[J_T]

"For a power forward, Bagley, who stands 6-foot-11 and has an 8-9 standing reach, is the full package"

Isn't a 8'9 standing reach pretty bad for a PF? That number can't be true right, as he has a 7'0 ½ wingspan according to draftexpress. Shouldn't it be over 9'0 if he is 6'11 and has a wingspan around 7'1?

Marvin Bagley is 6'9.5" without shoes with short arms (7'0.5" wingspan). That is not very good for an NBA PF. He is on the same level as Josh Jackson. Ayton is the only potential super stud in this draft if he can get his motor on all the time.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Marvin-Bagley-85466/

You know you took that measurement from 2014 right.. you know, when he would've been around 15? He's not particularly long for his height but seems pretty close to 7 foot at this point and is an elite athletic specimen. I think that's more than enough for a C in this league let alone PF.

Seems like he has grown only half of an inch since then, so add half of an inch to both those measurements and that's what he was supposed to be last year. At least from the information available.

[PhilBlackson]

Why is Knox so slept on?!

Personally I love the kid's potential.

[916fan]

Why is Knox so slept on?!

Personally I love the kid's potential.

I think everyone wants to see how he'll score in the 1/2 court. College season hasn't started yet.. so it's hard to judge everyone.

[doordoor123]

Why is Knox so slept on?!

Personally I love the kid's potential.

Yeah, I like his potential, he has a really nice arc to his shot and he has a great frame. There are questions with feel for me so far, but there's still a bunch of time and he hasn't gotten comfortable yet so that's not a great criticism yet. He's also athletic and likes contact. I'd like to see him expand his game with the ball in his hands, like passing and shooting off the dribble, but his handle is also not great. I think in time he's going to figure out how to shoot off the dribble more. I'm also not really convinced with his defense yet, but there's time. He makes good reads defensively off-ball so that's a positive there.

[doordoor123]

Marvin Bagley is 6'9.5" without shoes with short arms (7'0.5" wingspan). That is not very good for an NBA PF. He is on the same level as Josh Jackson. Ayton is the only potential super stud in this draft if he can get his motor on all the time.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Marvin-Bagley-85466/

You know you took that measurement from 2014 right.. you know, when he would've been around 15? He's not particularly long for his height but seems pretty close to 7 foot at this point and is an elite athletic specimen. I think that's more than enough for a C in this league let alone PF.

Seems like he has grown only half of an inch since then, so add half of an inch to both those measurements and that's what he was supposed to be last year. At least from the information available.

7'0 isn't great, but it's also not terrible. He can still be really effective. He probably just won't have as many blocks and steals as other guys, but he reads the floor well enough that he'll still be able to get his. He's also a really smart player. I'm not worried about that.

[doordoor123]

I think my number one right now is Porter Jr. I just can't see this guy failing and I think he has it all.

[Wagonband]

Can anyone with the insider ESPN access post their latest mock? Thanks!

[blazeyo]

Draft Rankings: Top 100
PLAYER POS TEAM AGE HEIGHT WINGSPAN
1. Luka Doncic SG Real Madrid 18.6 6-8 N/A
2. Michael Porter Jr. SF/PF Missouri 19.3 6-10 7-0
3. Marvin Bagley III PF/C Duke 18.6 6-11 7-0½
4. Deandre Ayton C Arizona 19.2 7-0 7-5
5. Mohamed Bamba C Texas 19.4 7-0 7-9
6. Miles Bridges SF/PF Michigan St 19.6 6-6 6-9
7. Robert Williams PF/C Texas A&M 20.0 6-9 7-5½
8. Collin Sexton PG Alabama 18.8 6-2 6-7
9. Jaren Jackson Jr. PF/C Michigan St 18.1 6-10 7-4
10. Wendell Carter Jr. C Duke 18.5 6-10 7-3
11. Trevon Duval PG Duke 19.2 6-3 6-3½
12. Bruce Brown SG Miami FL 21.2 6-3 6-8½
13. Lonnie Walker SG Miami FL 18.8 6-4 6-10½
14. Kevin Knox SF/PF Kentucky 18.2 6-9 7-0
15. Justin Jackson SF/PF Maryland 20.7 6-7 7-3
16. Dzanan Musa SF Cedevita 18.4 6-9 6-8½
17. Troy Brown SG Oregon 18.2 6-7 6-8
18. Hamidou Diallo SG Kentucky 19.2 6-5 7-0
19. Mikal Bridges SF Villanova 21.1 6-7 7-1½
20. Chimezie Metu PF/C USC 20.6 6-10 6-10½
21. Mitchell Robinson C N/A 19.6 6-11 7-4
22. Nick Richards C Kentucky 19.9 6-11 7-5
23. Nickeil Alexander-Walker PG Virginia Tech 19.1 6-5 6-9
24. Emmanuel Akot SF/PF Arizona 18.6 6-8 6-9
25. Shake Milton PG SMU 21.1 6-6 7-0
26. De'Anthony Melton PG/SG USC 19.4 6-3 6-8
27. Rodions Kurucs SF Barcelona 2 19.7 6-10 N/A
28. Grayson Allen SG Duke 22.0 6-4 6-6½
29. Austin Wiley C Auburn 18.8 6-11 7-5
30. Goga Bitadze C Mega Bemax 18.2 6-11 7-2
31. Tyus Battle SG/SF Syracuse 20.1 6-7 6-8
32. PJ Washington PF Kentucky 19.2 6-8 7-3
33. Brandon McCoy C UNLV 19.4 6-11 7-1½
34. Marko Simonovic PF/C Siena 18.0 7-0 N/A
35. Jarred Vanderbilt SF Kentucky 18.5 6-8 7-1
36. Brandon Randolph SG Arizona 20.1 6-6 6-8
37. Chris Smith PF UCLA 17.8 6-9 N/A
38. Brian Bowen SF Louisville* 19.0 6-7 6-9
39. Aaron Holiday PG UCLA 21.0 6-1 6-6
40. Arnoldas Kulboka SF Capo D'Orlando 19.8 6-10 6-11
41. Bonzie Colson PF Notre Dame 21.8 6-5 6-11½
42. Devonte' Graham PG Kansas 22.7 6-2 N/A
43. Lamar Peters PG Mississippi St. 19.3 6-0 N/A
44. Isaac Bonga SF Frankfurt 17.9 6-9 7-0
45. Andrew Jones PG/SG Texas 19.9 6-4 6-6½
46. Landry Shamet PG Wichita St 20.6 6-4 N/A
47. Oscar da Silva PF Stanford 19.1 6-10 N/A
48. Rui Hachimura PF Gonzaga 19.7 6-8 N/A
49. Alize Johnson PF Missouri St 21.5 6-9 N/A
50. V.J. King SF Louisville 20.7 6-7 6-9½
51. Allonzo Trier SG Arizona 21.8 6-5 6-7
52. Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk SG Kansas 20.4 6-8 6-5
53. Ray Spalding PF Louisville 20.6 6-10 7-1
54. Ethan Happ PF/C Wisconsin 21.4 6-10 N/A
55. Tryggvi Hlinason C Valencia 20.0 7-1 N/A
56. Vince Edwards SF Purdue 21.5 6-8 7-0
57. Jacob Evans SF Cincinnati 20.3 6-6 N/A
58. Moritz Wagner C Michigan 20.5 6-11 7-0
59. Sacha Killeya-Jones PF Kentucky 19.2 6-11 7-2
60. Terence Davis SG Mississippi 20.4 6-4 N/A
61. Abdoulaye N'doye PG Cholet 19.6 6-7 7-2
62. Tadas Sedekerskis SF Burgos 19.8 6-10 6-9½
63. Kostja Mushidi SG Mega Bemax 19.3 6-5 7-1
64. Rawle Alkins SG Arizona 20.0 6-5 6-9
65. Chandler Hutchison SG Boise St 21.5 6-7 N/A
66. Anas Mahmoud C Louisville 22.4 7-0 N/A
67. Malik Pope SF San Diego St 21.2 6-10 7-2
68. Isaac Haas C Purdue 22.0 7-2 7-4
69. Keita Bates-Diop SF Ohio St 21.7 6-7 N/A
70. Vasilis Charalampopoulos PF PAOK 20.8 6-9 N/A
71. Johnathan Williams PF Gonzaga 22.4 6-9 7-0½
72. Jevon Carter PG West Virginia 22.1 6-2 6-3
73. Karim Jallow SF Bayern Muenchen 20.5 6-7 6-8
74. Donta Hall PF/C Alabama 20.2 6-9 7-4
75. John Konchar SG IPFW 21.6 6-6 N/A
76. Tyler Hall SG Montana St 20.6 6-4 N/A
77. Bryant Crawford PG Wake Forest 20.6 6-3 6-7
78. Justin James SG Wyoming 20.7 6-7 N/A
79. D'Marcus Simonds PG/SG Georgia St 20.0 6-3 N/A
80. Matisse Thybulle SG Washington 20.6 6-5 N/A
81. Aric Holman PF/C Mississippi St. 20.3 6-10 N/A
82. Josh Okogie SG Georgia Tech 19.1 6-4 7-0
83. Maximo Fjellerup SF/PF Bahia Blanca 19.9 6-7 N/A
84. Aleksa Radanov SG FMP 19.7 6-8 N/A
85. Elie Okobo PG Pau-Orthez 20.0 6-3 N/A
86. Jeffrey Carroll SF Oklahoma St 22.9 6-6 6-6½
87. MiKyle McIntosh SF/PF Oregon 23.2 6-7 6-10
88. Malik Newman PG/SG Kansas 20.7 6-4 6-6
89. Kamar Baldwin PG Butler 20.1 6-0 N/A
90. Omer Yurtseven C N.C. State 19.3 7-0 7-1
91. Marques Bolden C Duke 19.5 6-11 7-4½
92. Felipe Dos Anjos C Burgos 19.5 7-3 7-5
93. Leo Cizmic SF/PF Araberri 18.8 6-9 N/A
94. Elijah Stewart SG USC 21.9 6-5 N/A
95. Donte Grantham SF Clemson 22.6 6-8 N/A
96. Vanja Marinkovic SG Partizan 20.8 6-7 6-7
97. Viny Okouo C Malaga 20.5 7-2 N/A
98. Drew Eubanks C Oregon St 20.7 6-10 N/A
99. Nik Slavica SF Cedevita 20.7 6-8 N/A
100. Theo Pinson SF North Carolina 22.0 6-6 6-11
*Suspended indefinitely

[No-Man]

3. Marvin Bagley III
7. Robert Williams
8. Collin Sexton
11. Trevon Duval
20. Chimezie Metu
22. Nick Richards
28. Grayson Allen

These guys feel uncomfortably high to me

A few others a bit low, other than that who is this Chris Smith guy from UCLA?

[blazeyo]

3. Marvin Bagley III
7. Robert Williams
8. Collin Sexton
11. Trevon Duval
20. Chimezie Metu
22. Nick Richards
28. Grayson Allen

These guys feel uncomfortably high to me

A few others a bit low, other than that who is this Chris Smith guy from UCLA?

No clue.. I don't think Marvin is going to stay in the top 5 when it's all said and done. Even if he does, it's going to be a mistake picking him so high. Grayson Allen should be an early 2nd round pick, Duval should be in the 20's, never watched Metu play, Nick Richards is intriguing but im going to need to see him at the college level.

I don't like their mock draft regardless, but it's so early.

[Wagonband]

Do they also give any reasons for their draft numbers? Or is it just a list? I'd love to hear why some guys seem waaaaay to high

[GimmeDat]

Isaac Bonga seems limited but he's young and has a unique skill-set - how do people feel about him being 44 in that top 100?

[akhan786]

Yeah I think Ayton ends the year at #1

[MC3]

Replace Knox with Bridges and Bridges with Knox. And put Ayton #1. And I can see that order.

[DirtyDez]

Read on Twitter

[mattg]

Crushing for a kid like that who is only rated highly because his class is unbelievably weak at PG.

[PhilBlackson]

Isaac Bonga seems limited but he's young and has a unique skill-set - how do people feel about him being 44 in that top 100?

I like him a lot....I think he's going to be one of the steals in the draft!

[Kolkmania]

"For a power forward, Bagley, who stands 6-foot-11 and has an 8-9 standing reach, is the full package"

Isn't a 8'9 standing reach pretty bad for a PF? That number can't be true right, as he has a 7'0 ½ wingspan according to draftexpress. Shouldn't it be over 9'0 if he is 6'11 and has a wingspan around 7'1?

Marvin Bagley is 6'9.5" without shoes with short arms (7'0.5" wingspan). That is not very good for an NBA PF. He is on the same level as Josh Jackson. Ayton is the only potential super stud in this draft if he can get his motor on all the time.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Marvin-Bagley-85466/

You know you took that measurement from 2014 right.. you know, when he would've been around 15? He's not particularly long for his height but seems pretty close to 7 foot at this point and is an elite athletic specimen. I think that's more than enough for a C in this league let alone PF.

When I watched him in high school he contested a lot of shots at the rim, but he didn't really affect them that much. A lack of length is certainly a legit concern for me, especially since I don't see the skills everybody is raving about. More like a super bouncy energy big to me with some ball handling to grab the ball in transition at this point.