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phillybird wrote:Question: Do you think if Ben had played last year, would he be playing at the same or close to level that he is now? Or did that year in the NBA, learning the game from the sidelines and practice benefit him to the point where he can play this well?
Kobblehead wrote:phillybird wrote:Question: Do you think if Ben had played last year, would he be playing at the same or close to level that he is now? Or did that year in the NBA, learning the game from the sidelines and practice benefit him to the point where he can play this well?
I'm confused by the phrasing of this.
Are you asking if Ben would have had as good a true rookie season last year as he's had a redshirted rookie season this year?
phillybird wrote:Kobblehead wrote:phillybird wrote:Question: Do you think if Ben had played last year, would he be playing at the same or close to level that he is now? Or did that year in the NBA, learning the game from the sidelines and practice benefit him to the point where he can play this well?
I'm confused by the phrasing of this.
Are you asking if Ben would have had as good a true rookie season last year as he's had a redshirted rookie season this year?
Like, how much better is he able to play this year because of his redshirt season? Or was this level of play attainable if he had just played from the get go last year.
phillybird wrote:Like, how much better is he able to play this year because of his redshirt season? Or was this level of play attainable if he had just played from the get go last year.
crazy_me_87 wrote:76ciology wrote:I dont know if you guys notice. But Ben's skyhook is pretty promising, specially off that interior PnR with Biid. If help defense comes then he can easily kick it to shooters
All those hooks, runners and "weird" shots alot of people thought looked weird and inneffective are actually pretty effective.
It speaks to his touch and feel for the Game mostly that he is able to constantly make shots most people just cannot make.
He could be the Steph Curry of the Paint^^ .. Takes and makes shots where every other player is benched for even considering taking it..
Kobblehead wrote:phillybird wrote:Like, how much better is he able to play this year because of his redshirt season? Or was this level of play attainable if he had just played from the get go last year.
I think Simmons got less benefit out of redshirting than many other prospects would have.
Learning how to be a professional and maturing physically are the usual benefits you'd think of. Ben was pretty sound in those two areas already.
I'm of the belief that he'd be just as good as a rookie in 2016 as he's proven to be this year. He's one prospect I truly believe always would have hit the ground running.
76ciology wrote:Kobblehead wrote:phillybird wrote:Like, how much better is he able to play this year because of his redshirt season? Or was this level of play attainable if he had just played from the get go last year.
I think Simmons got less benefit out of redshirting than many other prospects would have.
Learning how to be a professional and maturing physically are the usual benefits you'd think of. Ben was pretty sound in those two areas already.
I'm of the belief that he'd be just as good as a rookie in 2016 as he's proven to be this year. He's one prospect I truly believe always would have hit the ground running.
He focused on refining his PG abilities like ball handling, passing and reading the D while also refined his finishing around the rim. He has more variety/efficiency finishing around the rim (I believe he struggled in SL) while playing point forward at LSU is way different as full time PG of a winning team in the NBA
OT. A guy who can benefit red shirting is Lonzo.
simmbiid wrote:76ciology wrote:Kobblehead wrote:
I think Simmons got less benefit out of redshirting than many other prospects would have.
Learning how to be a professional and maturing physically are the usual benefits you'd think of. Ben was pretty sound in those two areas already.
I'm of the belief that he'd be just as good as a rookie in 2016 as he's proven to be this year. He's one prospect I truly believe always would have hit the ground running.
He focused on refining his PG abilities like ball handling, passing and reading the D while also refined his finishing around the rim. He has more variety/efficiency finishing around the rim (I believe he struggled in SL) while playing point forward at LSU is way different as full time PG of a winning team in the NBA
OT. A guy who can benefit red shirting is Lonzo.
LaVar needs to be red shirted. He is harming his son's career. The kid is clearly not ready for the attention he is getting, which is causing him to not develop at his own pace.
Jams60 wrote:My first post here on. I’m an Aussie and whilst I have had a passing interest in NBA basketball and did play when younger, I haven’t ever got into in a big way.
Ben Simmons is changing that. I actually started looking at those Thon Maker mix tapes on You Tube, which led me to Ben 3years back. I watched as many of the LSU games as I could on cable in Oz, luckily most of them were broadcast.
I watched the draft and when the Sixers took Ben I started to read about the team, and The Process. I’m hooked and a believer btw. T- Shirts on order, When he got injured last year I was so disappointed and have been looking forward to this season ever since.
I apologise for getting onto the bandwagon now and not having to sit through the last decade but in my defence my rugby league team in Oz, South Sydney Rabbitohs, went 43 years between championships so I have suffered.
As for Ben’s start, wow! If he did nothing more for the rest of his career, except to repeat his stats from his first 8 rookie games,
18.5 pts 9.6 reb 7.9 assists .4 blk 1.5 where would that sit him as an NBA player?
SomKindOfMonsta wrote:Oh I got caught up in the moment reminiscing then and forgot my whole reason for joining - how do I vote/ can I vote to help get Ben & Joel into the all star game?
phillybird wrote:Question: Do you think if Ben had played last year, would he be playing at the same or close to level that he is now? Or did that year in the NBA, learning the game from the sidelines and practice benefit him to the point where he can play this well?
Sixerscan wrote:
OConnors continuing focus on this dumb hand thing rather than that he's having one of the best starts to a career ever is borderline trolling at this point. He's shooting 50+% from the field, who cares if he would be nominally better if he started shooting right handed 13 years ago?
Sixerscan wrote:
OConnors continuing focus on this dumb hand thing rather than that he's having one of the best starts to a career ever is borderline trolling at this point. He's shooting 50+% from the field, who cares if he would be nominally better if he started shooting right handed 13 years ago?
Sixerscan wrote:OConnors continuing focus on this dumb hand thing rather than that he's having one of the best starts to a career ever is borderline trolling at this point. He's shooting 50+% from the field, who cares if he would be nominally better if he started shooting right handed 13 years ago?
Unbreakable99 wrote:Sixerscan wrote:
OConnors continuing focus on this dumb hand thing rather than that he's having one of the best starts to a career ever is borderline trolling at this point. He's shooting 50+% from the field, who cares if he would be nominally better if he started shooting right handed 13 years ago?
I actually like that he’s tracking it and I do think it’s important Ben can shoot with his left hand up close.
HotelVitale wrote:Sixerscan wrote:OConnors continuing focus on this dumb hand thing rather than that he's having one of the best starts to a career ever is borderline trolling at this point. He's shooting 50+% from the field, who cares if he would be nominally better if he started shooting right handed 13 years ago?
Hmm, why is that trolling? It's an interesting thing lots of people were talking about before and it's extra interesting now since Simmons has had such a huge and effective year. Weird phenomenon, I'm sure lots of people who are just paying attention to Ben now will be struck by it and want to know more. That's what good blog-y journalism does.
