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Post#41 » by macd-gm » Tue Nov 7, 2017 2:32 pm

I think we are all in agreement pretty much. The good news is that almost everything Schlenk has done looks really good in terms of recognizing talent that works for us. Whereas the holdovers from previous gms are hit and miss. Mostly miss but give them credit for Dennis and Prince.

Honestly that was a winnable game and it looked like we didn't do our all to pull it out in the end. I mean how can you put up with Baze just pulling up for jumper after jumper that doesn't go in. And Taylor is outplaying Delaney so badly it's not even funny. Delaney was ok at the 2 but that's a sometimes thing not an all the time thing.

If Baze would stick to 3&D he'd be good. He just wants to be the man but to be the man you've got to beat the man.
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Post#42 » by macd-gm » Tue Nov 7, 2017 2:34 pm

So Al had 15/10/9. hmm
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Post#43 » by kg01 » Tue Nov 7, 2017 2:44 pm

macd-gm wrote:I think we are all in agreement pretty much. The good news is that almost everything Schlenk has done looks really good in terms of recognizing talent that works for us. Whereas the holdovers from previous gms are hit and miss. Mostly miss but give them credit for Dennis and Prince.

Honestly that was a winnable game and it looked like we didn't do our all to pull it out in the end. I mean how can you put up with Baze just pulling up for jumper after jumper that doesn't go in. And Taylor is outplaying Delaney so badly it's not even funny. Delaney was ok at the 2 but that's a sometimes thing not an all the time thing.

If Baze would stick to 3&D he'd be good. He just wants to be the man but to be the man you've got to beat the man.


The story's been the same for years with us. Asking lower-rung guys to fill the role only real stars should be asked to achieve. Baze is a reserve but we're asking him to fill a star's role.

The fact that DelaneySucks has been so severely outplayed (and it's not even close, I mean it's really not close) by a guy who was signed off the street is such an indictment on him it's not even funny. And Taylor hasn't been great, per se. He's just thoroughly outplayed DelaneySucks. And he's probably still learning the plays!

Anyways, good effort last night. It should be clear to folks that weren't not tanking, necessarily. We just have a low talent level overall. We're actually trying to maintain a hardworking culture of execution. I'm fine with the results as long as we do that. I don't wanna see none-a that PHI stuff where they were just throwing the ball around and haphazardly firing up shots and whatnot.
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Post#45 » by ATL Boy » Tue Nov 7, 2017 3:30 pm

From Boston's side, Kyrie Irving is just mesmerizing every time I watch him play live. Last night I couldn't even be mad, just had to tip the hat to an incredible basketball talent who made my jaw drop a few times. I can just imagine how much time he's spent in life perfecting his incredible handles.


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Post#46 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Nov 7, 2017 3:34 pm

^And Brad Stevens has been using him brilliantly.

He's just entering the prime of his career. The sky is the limit.

Add'l NOTE: I honestly don't know if he wins another title in Boston. But he's clearly in the midst of a Hall of Fame caliber career.
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Post#47 » by graymule » Tue Nov 7, 2017 3:55 pm

Wonder, does his former team miss him? Kyrie Irving, that is.
If he doesn't make the all star team, who is better?
The way he played against the Hawks, he proved his worth, didn"t he!
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Post#48 » by tbhawksfan1 » Tue Nov 7, 2017 5:29 pm

no one game make someone, unless it's game seven and they go off for fity
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Post#49 » by Robo_Claw » Tue Nov 7, 2017 5:54 pm

macd-gm wrote:I think we are all in agreement pretty much. The good news is that almost everything Schlenk has done looks really good in terms of recognizing talent that works for us. Whereas the holdovers from previous gms are hit and miss. Mostly miss but give them credit for Dennis and Prince.

Honestly that was a winnable game and it looked like we didn't do our all to pull it out in the end. I mean how can you put up with Baze just pulling up for jumper after jumper that doesn't go in. And Taylor is outplaying Delaney so badly it's not even funny. Delaney was ok at the 2 but that's a sometimes thing not an all the time thing.

If Baze would stick to 3&D he'd be good. He just wants to be the man but to be the man you've got to beat the man.


It was winnable for sure, but you cant ask random cast offs and dudes off the street to beat a FAR more talented team. I thought they finally played with effort and some sort of defense, even if we are garbage on the perimeter.

Delaney is absolute garbage on D, like honestly someone is open every time he is on the court and teams don't respect him AT ALL on offense and it just clogs everything up.

I like Taylor's intensity but it doesn't take much to outplay delaney, how does he have absolutely no clue what is going on almost all of the time?!

As far as baze, he has been awful. I think it's still in his head from that big contract he is trying to live up to and somehow thats making it worse. He just needs to get back to having fun and being relaxed. hes not the man, never will be the man, and i think the pressure of trying to be the man is crumbling his confidence.

Overall, much better game than I ever expected on a back to back and against a solid team. If we can just keep playing hard and eventually having some growth from Prince and Collins on the defensive side I will be satisfied with this season no matter how many games we end up winning.
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Post#50 » by Robo_Claw » Tue Nov 7, 2017 5:56 pm

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macd-gm wrote:I think we are all in agreement pretty much. The good news is that almost everything Schlenk has done looks really good in terms of recognizing talent that works for us. Whereas the holdovers from previous gms are hit and miss. Mostly miss but give them credit for Dennis and Prince.

Honestly that was a winnable game and it looked like we didn't do our all to pull it out in the end. I mean how can you put up with Baze just pulling up for jumper after jumper that doesn't go in. And Taylor is outplaying Delaney so badly it's not even funny. Delaney was ok at the 2 but that's a sometimes thing not an all the time thing.

If Baze would stick to 3&D he'd be good. He just wants to be the man but to be the man you've got to beat the man.


The story's been the same for years with us. Asking lower-rung guys to fill the role only real stars should be asked to achieve. Baze is a reserve but we're asking him to fill a star's role.

The fact that DelaneySucks has been so severely outplayed (and it's not even close, I mean it's really not close) by a guy who was signed off the street is such an indictment on him it's not even funny. And Taylor hasn't been great, per se. He's just thoroughly outplayed DelaneySucks. And he's probably still learning the plays!

Anyways, good effort last night. It should be clear to folks that weren't not tanking, necessarily. We just have a low talent level overall. We're actually trying to maintain a hardworking culture of execution. I'm fine with the results as long as we do that. I don't wanna see none-a that PHI stuff where they were just throwing the ball around and haphazardly firing up shots and whatnot.


agreed. wish i'd have read this before i posted my response lol

EDIT: i did actually, rough day so far.
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Re: Game Thread: Celtics in Atlanta 

Post#51 » by jayu70 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:20 am

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We don’t have a superstar or whatever, so we’ve got to do all the little things like competing on the defensive end, dive on the floor whatever it takes to win some games,” Schroder said. “I think we got better tonight competing for 48 minutes and they hit some tough shots and you’ve got to give them credit.”

Well at least Dennis doesn't see himself as a Superstar :) . Good for him.


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“Our record doesn’t show, but it’s not as bad as it looks,” Bazemore said. “We’ve been in pretty much every game. I thought the Houston game and probably the Milwaukee game out of the 11 we’ve played were the only two that we kind of didn’t show up.
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Re: Game Thread: Celtics in Atlanta 

Post#52 » by macd-gm » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:42 pm

I think we had at least as many bad showings last year at this time. We just won the good ones whereas now we are losing them by a small amount. Team is hustling like we expected and I'll give Dennis credit. His body language has improved and driving everything has been held to a minimum
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Post#53 » by jayu70 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:44 pm

macd-gm wrote:I think we had at least as many bad showings last year at this time. We just won the good ones whereas now we are losing them by a small amount. Team is hustling like we expected and I'll give Dennis credit. His body language has improved and driving everything has been held to a minimum

Dennis is picking his spots. I said b4 his biggest adjustment would me marrying his affinity for scoring with his ability to effectively run the team.
He isn't forcing the action at the rim.

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