On vacation and haven't watched the last couple games but this team needs a game changing absolute baller so bad.... good thing losses are probably the best route to landing one. Best hope ayton is the next zo or something like that.
The margin for error is so slim with this team. If booker and
Warren are playing well they have little chance in any game.
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Game 11, Brooklyn Nets at Phoenix Suns, November 6th, 7PM, MST
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Young team, I expect losses. At least their playing harder than they did from beginning of the season.
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Loved Triano's quote about getting Booker better shots half the solution is acknowledging the problem.
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peachbucket wrote:ginobiliflops wrote:thapharcyd wrote:Booker does not look very good lately
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He's playing with his the worst guards in the league. Give the guy a break!
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what an absolute embarrassment of a basketball team. The fact that a 40lb overweight Jared Dudley who can barely move was out there to close really says it all.
It is sad that Chriss and Bender play really bad so many times.
They have been horrible for three consecutive games, we need one of them at least play decent basketball if we want to be competitive.
Bender played great a few games, these last two he has been terrible on both sides of the floor.
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Missed the game but gee willikers the backcourt defense on D'Lo's highlight vid is awful.
Book has certainly not progressed at all. MJ has moments where he looks competent and mixes them with moments of G-League defense.
Book has certainly not progressed at all. MJ has moments where he looks competent and mixes them with moments of G-League defense.

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bwoolf2 wrote:We all knew this team would be bad, looks like they were exhausted and reverted back to ISO Watson ball with Booker and everyone else trying to do it all on their own and not playing team basketball whatsoever no ball movement tonight and these guys have to stop running to the 3 point line every time and occasionally cut the the basket. We have 2 players that cut to the basket Dudley and Warren thats it. We also only have 2 players on this team with a high BBIQ and thats Dudley and I lean towards Big Sauce outside of that its low to lower. Bender finds some from time to time but he is too passive on offense to be effective.
I agree completely. People keep talking about ball movement but I think the bigger issue is the lack of movement without the ball. They can pass the ball around the outside of the 3 point line all they like but they'll still be defended since they don't make it tough on the defense. We need more off ball movement so that the ball handler can find someone to pass it to. TJ and Dudley are the only ones that do that. You could see it during that one play when Len was in the post and Dudley cut. Guess what? He found him. We need more movement.....Period.
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bwgood77 wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:Too much blame on our PG's imo. The only reason they take shots or isn't passing to ours stars is because the stars aren't demanding the ball, getting themselves involved in the play or making themselves available. Our PG's are who they are, young, inexperienced and limited. That's why you want your stars to be creating plays. Blaming our PG's would be like blaming Patrick Beverley when Harden isn't producing.
More so than our PG play, I'm more disappointed with Booker's lack of interest.
It's just more of the same. And we don't have any stars. Booker cannot be the playmaker. He's good at it on occasion, but he turns it over too much.
We need someone who knows how to read the entire floor with a smart bbiq. I don't know who that could be. I mean heck, Darren Collison is getting the entire Pacers offense going with like double digit assist nights.
I can't even remember the last time we had a player get double digit assists.
TJ McConnell https://stats.nba.com/players/advanced/?sort=AST_TO&dir=-1&CF=MIN*GE*8:GP*G*5&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PlayerPosition=G
If you take also Okafor, this could be a good trade for both teams. I love TJ its just that with Ben and Fultz, he will not have to much playing time which he deserves. He is also a + defender for a PG, his main weakness is his shooting and a fact that there is no hype around him.
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batsmasher wrote:Missed the game but gee willikers the backcourt defense on D'Lo's highlight vid is awful.
Book has certainly not progressed at all. MJ has moments where he looks competent and mixes them with moments of G-League defense.
Watching these highlights of D'Lo and it seems he got too many easy buckets off of turnovers. Hard to defend against a turnover.
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Stribor wrote:bwgood77 wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:Too much blame on our PG's imo. The only reason they take shots or isn't passing to ours stars is because the stars aren't demanding the ball, getting themselves involved in the play or making themselves available. Our PG's are who they are, young, inexperienced and limited. That's why you want your stars to be creating plays. Blaming our PG's would be like blaming Patrick Beverley when Harden isn't producing.
More so than our PG play, I'm more disappointed with Booker's lack of interest.
It's just more of the same. And we don't have any stars. Booker cannot be the playmaker. He's good at it on occasion, but he turns it over too much.
We need someone who knows how to read the entire floor with a smart bbiq. I don't know who that could be. I mean heck, Darren Collison is getting the entire Pacers offense going with like double digit assist nights.
I can't even remember the last time we had a player get double digit assists.
TJ McConnell https://stats.nba.com/players/advanced/?sort=AST_TO&dir=-1&CF=MIN*GE*8:GP*G*5&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PlayerPosition=G
If you take also Okafor, this could be a good trade for both teams. I love TJ its just that with Ben and Fultz, he will not have to much playing time which he deserves. He is also a + defender for a PG, his main weakness is his shooting and a fact that there is no hype around him.
I love TJ, being an AZ alum. I know he's scrappy, plays hard defense, gets lots of steals and plays hard and smart. I'd love to watch him next to Booker.
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What would Philly want for him?
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Philly won't throw in TJ. He is one of his draft class's leaders in WS. He is locked into a vet min deal. We might be able to get Okafor for a 2nd or 2, but TJ won't be thrown in unless we add a 1st or something of real value.