Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 3

AtheJ415 · Post #341 » by **AtheJ415** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 9:44 pm

I am a little worried with what they do with cap space this off-season. I don't want Deandre. And the rfa's are going to be tough for any team to decline. Jokic, Lavine etc. Will get matched. Maybe we can bundle our picks to get hood. Doubt jokic would be in play. Maybe Zingis is NYK bombs again and Zingis requests a trade. I just hope we don't pay big bucks to a vet or injury riddled rfa.

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Post #342 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 9:56 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:I've been critical of McD lately and do think its time for a GM change this coming summer but I will give him credit un that he's not afraid to make a trade for an asset he might not be around to use. A lot of gms won't.

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Considering he just got a multi year contract extension in July, I doubt he's going anywhere any time soon.

I can't find the exact amount of money it would take to make McD go away but it can't be all that much in the grand sceme of things. Especially considering the suns payroll this year is right about the league minimum and plus insurance is paying most of knights deal this year and maybe big sauces too depending when he comes back. Sarver can certainly change directions this summer if he wants to.

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I guess it depends on Sarver's frame of mind, but that's unpredictable. He seems to be fully on board with the rebuild, and I don't think anyone thought Bledsoe was a part of it, and it was rumored he was going to be dealt before the tweet (from Gambo, I know, but it sounded right)...and then we are sitting at 4-6, which I don't think is any worse than any reasonable person would think. Sure we've had some ugly losses, but we've had a few nice moments as well.

I mean there seems to be a lot of overreacting here. I know there were a handful who thought we could make the playoffs, and sitting at 4-6 and one game back it doesn't look all that bad from that perspective either. I could see if there were huge Bledsoe fans or people thought he was worth a ton but I think most agreed he was worth a mid to late first. At least that's what the Suns posters who voted on the trade board poll thought he was worth if he came with an expiring.

NTB · Post #343 » by **NTB** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 9:57 pm

Read on Twitter

welp

ShawnBronald · Post #344 » by **ShawnBronald** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 9:57 pm

Read on Twitter

JMac1 · Post #345 » by **JMac1** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 9:58 pm

Brandon Knight has value as a player to this team now....wow! Lmao

Post #346 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 9:59 pm

Kerrsed wrote:

Read on Twitter

OK, I negotiated a trade of you to this team board viewforum.php?f=31 to be a mod for a bag of potato chips.

TOO · Post #347 » by **TOO** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 9:59 pm

Cue the I love Phoenix and the fans and wanna thank them for everything bull.

TOO · Post #348 » by **TOO** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:00 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:

Read on Twitter

OK, I negotiated a trade of you to this team board viewforum.php?f=31 to be a mod for a bag of potato chips.

Overpay.

Post #349 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:01 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:Monroe and Chandler starting front court? Chriss and Bender blowing lately, can be youth movement off bench. lol

God I hope not. As the pistons learned playing monroe alongside another traditional big is not a recipe for success.

Monroe is hurt so they have a little time to figure it out. They could simply sit chandler but my guess is one of monroe or chandler is traded over the next two weeks. I'm sure they would gladly give chandler to any team willing to give them an expiring back.

I'm not a big fan of monroes game in general but I'm not totally opposed to kicking the tires on him to see if they would want to give him a contract this summer. Theoretically he's not the worst fit next to bender. But if any team is willing to trade a pick and an expiring for him I'd be all for it or they could go the other direction and package him with a pick for someone with multuple years left on their contract.

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Someone mentioned he can't be traded again for 90 days. Is this correct?

I mean you also have to be happy that you now have a new starter in The Premier League by the end of a week.

Jarlaxle0204 · Post #350 » by **Jarlaxle0204** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:03 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:

Read on Twitter

OK, I negotiated a trade of you to this team board viewforum.php?f=31 to be a mod for a bag of potato chips.

Are there any protections on the potato chips?

TOO · Post #351 » by **TOO** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:05 pm

Jarlaxle0204 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:

Read on Twitter

OK, I negotiated a trade of you to this team board viewforum.php?f=31 to be a mod for a bag of potato chips.

Are there any protections on the potato chips?

Does the expiration date count?

ShawnBronald · Post #352 » by **ShawnBronald** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:12 pm

Bledsoe saying the tweet was 100% about being at a hair salon. lol

RaisingArizona · Post #353 » by **RaisingArizona** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:19 pm

If you took a shot every time Bledsoe said YOU KNOW in that interview, we'll mourn you.

jcsunsfan · Post #354 » by **jcsunsfan** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:31 pm

ShawnBronald wrote:Bledsoe saying the tweet was 100% about being at a hair salon. lol

Even if this was true, how dumb would you have to be to not know how it would be taken. And he had plenty of time to tweet a follow up explanation.

What a jerk.

Years90Suns · Post #355 » by **Years90Suns** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:34 pm

Monroe is not a defensive presence. That is crystal clear. But he has a nice shot from midrange, can pass and can put the ball on the floor and post his opponent. He is not a rebounder, although he can boxout his man or any other man. The problem with him is that his physical conditions do not allow him to jump much.

I see a problem with Monroe here. We have 2 centers and 2 power forwards. Chriss is dedicating poorly to his supposed to be job, so may be Monroe can take his minutes, which can do the team and Chriss a favour, as he needs to wake up urgently.

I do not share the critics on Len and Chandler. Len played really well in San Antonio. Even for this team he is playing nicely. What I mean with that is that it is difficult to offer something when a team is so perimeter oriented. Dude does not get many touches. But he was great against SAS and has held his own for most minutes this season.On the other hand, Chandler's task is unpayable. He is holding the middle, getting rebounds, fighting every ball and getting his buckets and rebounds. He even can run the court at 33. I cannot see a problem with him. Attitude is off the charts with him.

The problems here are two: our defense allows 117 ppg, which is second to last (does not matter much at that point) and our offense depends a lot on the inspiration we have when shooting. We do not really have a plan and we go down a lot when we cannot run.

NTB · Post #356 » by **NTB** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:42 pm

Years90Suns wrote:Monroe is not a defensive presence. That is crystal clear. But he has a nice shot from midrange, can pass and can put the ball on the floor and post his opponent. He is not a rebounder, although he can boxout his man or any other man. The problem with him is that his physical conditions do not allow him to jump much.

I see a problem with Monroe here. We have 2 centers and 2 power forwards. Chriss is dedicating poorly to his supposed to be job, so may be Monroe can take his minutes, which can do the team and Chriss a favour, as he needs to wake up urgently.

I do not share the critics on Len and Chandler. Len played really well in San Antonio. Even for this team he is playing nicely. What I mean with that is that it is difficult to offer something when a team is so perimeter oriented. Dude does not get many touches. But he was great against SAS and has held his own for most minutes this season.On the other hand, Chandler's task is unpayable. He is holding the middle, getting rebounds, fighting every ball and getting his buckets and rebounds. He even can run the court at 33. I cannot see a problem with him. Attitude is off the charts with him.

The problems here are two: our defense allows 117 ppg, which is second to last (does not matter much at that point) and our offense depends a lot on the inspiration we have when shooting. We do not really have a plan and we go down a lot when we cannot run.

Chandler is a huge problem defensively and Monroe is a better defender than Chandler believe it or not. Also, Monroe is a good rebounder. I think our offense will look much better with Monroe in the paint.

Blonde · Post #357 » by **Blonde** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:51 pm

Monroe is a real player. If we release/buy him out I'll be pissed. The Bucks and Jason Kidd destroyed his value by playing Thon and Henson so much over him. I think he could help us a lot if given the chance. I'd start him as soon as he gets back from injury.

TeamTragic · Post #358 » by **TeamTragic** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:52 pm

#1: No longer have to deal with Klutch Sports/Rich Paul
#2: We might buyout Monroe (or keep him for deadline trade)

McD just wanted to clear salary. Sarver getting multiple offers for the franchise.

Christine-In-AZ · Post #359 » by **Christine-In-AZ** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:53 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Someone mentioned he can't be traded again for 90 days. Is this correct?

I mean you also have to be happy that you now have a new starter in The Premier League by the end of a week.

I believe....
Can be traded now if not packaged with another player. 60 day wait for multi player trading.
But maybe the CBA has changed recently.

AtheJ415 · Post #360 » by **AtheJ415** » Tue Nov 7, 2017 10:53 pm

Monroe should be cut. Even if we trade Chandler, I'd rather give those minutes to Len and Bender or Chriss. Reason being, we aren't winning this year anyways, and so use the minutes for development. Also, our priority should not be seeing what Monroe has and re-signing him, because he is good at enough that he isn't taking a low ball minimum deal like Williams did. We need to preserve max cap space instead of signing vets even if on reasonable deals. We only have one chance to add a max player via FA before Booker's extension comes in. That might be this season/offseason, but I prefer we do it next offseason. Unless something drastically changes with Jokic, or Cousins decides he wants to leave NO and ignores Bled's bithcing, I can't see anybody who is worth the max. Lavine maybe but the med staff would have to be real confident in his knees, and we'd have to trade something to Chicago because they won't allow him to simply walk.