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Post#1 » by Dloading99 » Wed Nov 8, 2017 7:00 am

Did Phil troll Jeanie and Troll us when we had a chance to draft him.

everybody talks about Phil but he did the most genius draft pick for the Knicks since Ewing. and a lot of people didn't even want porzingis and he drafted him.

everytime Stephen A wants to pop off about Lonzo play the video of him crying how stupid the Knicks were for Drafting Porzingis. him screaming for Justice Winslow dude looks like a clown now.

But back to us. Do yall think Phil was like Jeanie Porzingis isn't the guy you need another Kobe you need another Curry DLo is the pick. cause we are going to pick him.

I think Porzingis was on our radar. I think Jim Buss wanted him especially after that workout. but I think he was talked out of it By Byron Scott and Mitch Kupchack. Mitch said he had the final call.

Of Course at this point it's would've Could've should've maybe I'm in the minority but I think Porzingis is the best player out of that draft with Towns.

This year dude is looking like a beast.

did we ever really have a shot at Porzinigs? was he one of the picks we were considering. or what really was the top three we were going to draft?

What did DLO do to get drafted By us. Man if we had Porzingis Superstar player. kind of makes you say WOW!!!!! :o
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Post#3 » by carlquincy » Wed Nov 8, 2017 10:18 am

Dont know about the drafting him.

But I did not mind trading him with Russell, Randle and #2 back in June.
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Post#4 » by Slava » Wed Nov 8, 2017 10:21 am

Look at captain hindsight with 2 years and 10 games of data.
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Post#5 » by iQon » Wed Nov 8, 2017 1:31 pm

I'm fairly confident most teams would have passed on Porzingis with the #2 pick, including the Knicks. Not a big deal. The consensus top 2 was KAT and Okafor, and we passed on Okafor. To me, we got that much right, and it's all that I care about.
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Post#6 » by snaquille oatmeal » Wed Nov 8, 2017 3:11 pm

Didn’t I read somewhere that Phil suggested to the Lakers to either draft or at least take a look at Porzingis
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Post#7 » by milesfides » Wed Nov 8, 2017 3:59 pm

We should have drafted or traded D’Angelo for Porzingis and Zach Lavine for Randle. Some people were calling for this pretty early.

Also, the moment the draft is over, draft order doesn’t matter. Starting from summer league to preseason to the first regular season games, as the sample size gets larger, the risk and payoffs get smaller.

This is why Kuzma emerged as clearly one of the best players in his class despite the handful of summer league games.

Nobody’s always right, there’s always risk, but when a player has distinct advantages of superior 1) physical talent, 2) skillset, and 3) personality - I’d bet on that.
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Post#8 » by kobe808lak » Wed Nov 8, 2017 4:54 pm

Could of had a real Franchise player.. I think the success of curry blinded them a bit.
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Post#9 » by One Love » Wed Nov 8, 2017 5:22 pm

I wanted Russell at the time and recall the Mad Dawg challenge at the tryout... If I recall correctly, NY loved Russell too... I am glad we didn't draft Okafor but damn, that hurts... I did want LaVine over Randle but I would have taken Eldrid too...
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Post#10 » by Sedale Threatt » Wed Nov 8, 2017 5:39 pm

Probably the overarching reason was the fact that there had been a huge amount of Europeans wash out as high picks after the likes of Dirk and Gasol. Just like those two inflated the general profile for a while, the slew of busts who followed served to deflate it. Given that, and Porzingis' physical profile, it's understandable why we passed.

That said, it doesn't make the fact that we blew that pick sting any less. There was a potential MVP candidate sitting right there, and we missed him. (For the record, I was totally supportive of taking D'Angelo. I also thought Stacey Augmon and Scott May were going to be very good NBA players, so my GM skills are obviously lacking.)

I've been thinking a lot about this lately, but this is a spot we've never really been in as fans, where you're in a position to second-guess high-round picks that alter the course of the league. Basically where the Clippers were for entire decades.

Missing on, say, Draymond Green or Nikola Jokic in the second round is a different story. Sitting at No. 2, with virtually the entire draft board at your disposal, those are the ones that hurt. Tough enough that we were so close/so far from Towns and Simmons. But '15 will linger for a while, and '17 could too if Lonzo can't figure out his shot.
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Post#11 » by DocHollidae » Wed Nov 8, 2017 6:02 pm

Jim Buss and Kupchak had their jobs at stake. Forgot where I heard it, but I remember someone saying that you will definitely lose your job over a foreign bust vs. a collegiate bust. Porzingis could have been the second coming of Nikoloz Tskitishvili, but obviously that's not the case.
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Post#12 » by danfantastk32 » Wed Nov 8, 2017 6:30 pm

DocHollidae wrote:Jim Buss and Kupchak had their jobs at stake. Forgot where I heard it, but I remember someone saying that you will definitely lose your job over a foreign bust vs. a collegiate bust. Porzingis could have been the second coming of Nikoloz Tskitishvili, but obviously that's not the case.


Gonna do a rare thing here, and come to Jim's defense. I wanted Porzingis myself....but I doubt I would have had the guts to pull the trigger with the #2 pick. Was fairly spindly....and watching footage of a guy draining 3's on an open court only gets you so far. I wanted Russell over Okafor, so I was pretty happy with the pick.

Woulda been great....but if he'd been a bust, we'd be stuck with Mozgov still, and who knows what else? I think the FO did the right thing by not trying to get too cute. They weren't in a position to pull a stunt like that. And it's not like Russell was this heap of junk. He's a really good player, who we got some goods for.

Draymond Green going 35th?? Now that prob haunts a few guys. Is what it is....the Draft is a gamble. Jim/Mitch were did the smart thing.
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Re: Porzingis 

Post#13 » by Kilroy » Wed Nov 8, 2017 7:38 pm

Are we going to be doing this all year? Cmon guys... Lakers...
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